What's with the bias?

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Did you even read what you were posting to him or what he was posting to you? I’m not quoting your entire conversation

Beep beep beep. Back it up there big fella.

 

[Xplosive]

Projected isn’t the same as actually doing it.

Deflecting reason in an attempt to hold on to your bias I see.

Justin played 12.5 games this season and people want to jump to conclusions that he isn't the long term solution. It's pretty common practice to project a players stats over a full season which is what I presented. It's pretty reasonable to expect at least 4,000 total yards from him next year so why isn't that good enough for you?

 

[PrideisBears]

Beep beep beep. Back it up there big fella.

Pretty sure you might be more wide backed there , big man. Anyway babablackrainbow, I’m doing my sweep, finishing my reports then resting. Take care

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Pretty sure you might be more wide backed there , big man. Anyway babablackrainbow, I’m doing my sweep, finishing my reports then resting. Take care

Disappointing.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Deflecting reason in an attempt to hold on to your bias I see.

Justin played 12.5 games this season and people want to jump to conclusions that he isn't the long term solution. It's pretty common practice to project a players stats over a full season which is what I presented. It's pretty reasonable to expect at least 4,000 total yards from him next year so why isn't that good enough for you?

I never said it wouldn’t be.

All I simply pointed out is projecting ain’t the same as doing. You have to stay healthy for that.

And get the **** out of here with your “bias” shit.

 

[Xplosive]

I’m a big jf fan but how about he hasn’t played a full season. How about if we’re wrong about jf blaming oc and talent on offense we are missing a great opportunity to get potentially one of the most talented draft prospects at qb since luck. When’s the next chance the bears get to do that? I’m cool with it either way but op is very short sighted

Justin has had minor injuries like most players in the NFL, especially those playing behind terrible offensive lines. The myth that mobile QBs get injured more has been disproved so let that fear go, especially since Caleb runs almost as often as Justin.

Caleb is simply propped up because everyone wants the next Mahomes, but if Trevor Lawrence was in this draft Caleb would not be the #1 pick.

 

[Heidenlarm]

I thought there was already a Justin Fields thread?

 

[Xplosive]

I thought there was already a Justin Fields thread?

Actually every thread is a Justin thread, I actually wanted people to explain why running yards for a QB are constantly disregarded in the equation of franchise vs non franchise QB

 

[Heidenlarm]

Hilarious that you prop up Kmet and diminish the quarterback throwing him the ball.

Hilarious how one can prop up Shannon Sharpe while diminishing Trent Dilfer. See what I'm doing there? No, not comparing players. Comparing situations. You can have exceptional skill position players and still have below average QB play. It's silly to think because one praises one player that they're digging on the other.

 

[zabavka]

Actually every thread is a Justin thread, I actually wanted people to explain why running yards for a QB are constantly disregarded in the equation of franchise vs non franchise QB

Because a QB passes the ball, a RB runs the ball.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Because a QB passes the ball, a RB runs the ball.

That’s not true and you know it.

The criticism against Fields is because his passing isn’t good enough.

But obviously in today’s game a QB that can run too is advantageous.

 

[Xplosive]

If your QB has played 3 years and there is still a debate about whether he can be your franchise QB, then you already have your likely answer.

I honestly think people are parrots some times the way they repeat the same talking points...

Justin has only started 38 games in those three years, that's 16 away from an actual three years worth of evidence that he is or isn't the answer. He has had ups and downs like any young QB so the evaluation is incomplete and he should have another season with more than one WR and a subpar OC to settle the issue.

 

[Heidenlarm]

Actually every thread is a Justin thread, I actually wanted people to explain why running yards for a QB are constantly disregarded in the equation of franchise vs non franchise QB

It's fair, but the pro v anti Justin camps bickering are terribly annoying and that's seemingly what they all devolve into. That's not your fault but any means, it's just how it is.

 

[RubberBanMan]

“Why is a football quarterback called a quarterback? It's simple geometry. The quarterback, halfback, and fullback are positioned at the back of the offensive line. Their different names refer to their positions relative to the offensive line: A quarter of the way back, half of the way back, and all the way back.”

Whoa. Ain’t that just sumptin

 

[zabavka]

That’s not true and you know it.

The criticism against Fields is because his passing isn’t good enough.

But obviously in today’s game a QB that can run too is advantageous.

The primary job of a QB is to pass the ball, the running should be icing on the cake.

 

[DaaBears]

Actually every thread is a Justin thread, I actually wanted people to explain why running yards for a QB are constantly disregarded in the equation of franchise vs non franchise QB

It definitely is a factor in quarterback evaluation, but there is no equation or formula. It's totally subjective, and based on the philosophy of Poles and staff. Not only don't we know what they are thinking, they might not even have made up their mind yet. Although the conversations here on CCS are indicative of the variety of viewpoints, basically it means nothing to the outcome.

I am probably one of the very few here that are okay with all of the possible QB options. I just want another pass rusher, sign JJ and add one potential future star to the defense.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

I honestly think people are parrots some times the way they repeat the same talking points...

Justin has only started 38 games in those three years, that's 16 away from an actual three years worth of evidence that he is or isn't the answer. He has had ups and downs like any young QB so the evaluation is incomplete and he should have another season with more than one WR and a subpar OC to settle the issue.

“Only”

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

The primary job of a QB is to pass the ball, the running should be icing on the cake.

No the primary job is to score points.

 

[Heidenlarm]

“Why is a football quarterback called a quarterback? It's simple geometry. The quarterback, halfback, and fullback are positioned at the back of the offensive line. Their different names refer to their positions relative to the offensive line: A quarter of the way back, half of the way back, and all the way back.”

Whoa. Ain’t that just sumptin

But why does the all the way back back often line up in front of the half of the way back back?

 

[Wild_x_Card]

Deflecting reason in an attempt to hold on to your bias I see.

Justin played 12.5 games this season and people want to jump to conclusions that he isn't the long term solution. It's pretty common practice to project a players stats over a full season which is what I presented. It's pretty reasonable to expect at least 4,000 total yards from him next year so why isn't that good enough for you?

Nobody is jumping to conclusions. We're looking at his overall body of work across a 3 year span. He has his own deficiencies outside of coaching that have been apart of his game since college. How anyone can look at Fields body of work and powned the table for him is astonishing. You could make a sensible argument to keep him, but You have to acknowledge you very well could be looking at at a player with a bottom half of the NFL ceiling as a passer. On top missing games every single season. It's a red flag.