When Do You Start Looking At The Coaching Staff?

[Everyday I'm Byfuglien]

I don't know what the dynamic is of the three, but certainly I disagree with only firing Kitchen. If you're going to fire him, Q must go as well. Quite possibly fire all of them and bring in Carlyle.

Good to know I'm not the only one who thought of Carlyle.

You want to see this team suddenly become hard to play against- he's the guy.

And yeah, you can't just axe Kitchen alone. You don't want to be the fucking Canadiens :nope:

I've been saying it for a little while and I'm really starting to believe it... if they drop this entire road trip and lose every game... Q can go. Give me a reason why not.

We all know Savard wasn't going to take this team to the Cup but god damnit, he did give us this gem

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gM6REx3NVY]Denis Savard Snaps About The Hawks - YouTube[/ame]

What I wouldn't give to see Q actually break bad.

 

[DMelt36]

I think one major problem with Q is the personnel decisions he's made. While I don't think Bowman has done an all-that-good of a job with providing quality players, I just don't understand what Q is doing.

First off, the line juggling is fucking ridiculous at this point. He throws any random combination of players on the ice at any time, and I have no idea how you're supposed to develop chemistry between your linemates when you're looking at different players on every shift. I don't think they even made it to the 10-minute mark of the first period tonight before lines got juggled. It's out of control.

John Scott should never dress. Ever. Why he's even on the roster is an issue more worthy of Bowman's desk, but after seeing Lepisto in the last two games I don't see why Scott has been playing over him. He may not be an all-world guy, but he's certainly worth a **** of a lot more than 32. And if you want to mention Scott's "presence" on the ice, get a fucking clue. A player that can't be trusted to skate more than three minutes a game doesn't belong in today's NHL. Period.

But the absolute killer of this team is the special teams. Absolutely unacceptable to have this much talent being so fucking God-awful on the PP and PK. When does a coach step in and say, "stop passing the puck all around the rink. Just get it into one of the players in the corner, drive your ass to the net, and have everyone else crash." A fluky goal will probably come of that, at some point. I think it's fair to say improved special teams could've given the Hawks 6-8 more points this year. Easy. Stop putting Sharp (and all other forwards, for that matter) on the point. Sharp should be firing wristers from 20-30 feet out, not trying to find a seam from the point. The month or so while #10 was out, the Hawks were using D-men at both point positions and I don't recall the PP being all that terrible during that time. I still want Sharp out there, but as a forward.

 

[derosabomb]

Im waiting for the response: "zomfg lulz you cant blame Q cus he brought us a cup and stuff"

not gonna get that from me

 

[Capt. Serious]

I think one major problem with Q is the personnel decisions he's made. While I don't think Bowman has done an all-that-good of a job with providing quality players, I just don't understand what Q is doing.

First off, the line juggling is fucking ridiculous at this point. He throws any random combination of players on the ice at any time, and I have no idea how you're supposed to develop chemistry between your linemates when you're looking at different players on every shift. I don't think they even made it to the 10-minute mark of the first period tonight before lines got juggled. It's out of control.

John Scott should never dress. Ever. Why he's even on the roster is an issue more worthy of Bowman's desk, but after seeing Lepisto in the last two games I don't see why Scott has been playing over him. He may not be an all-world guy, but he's certainly worth a **** of a lot more than 32. And if you want to mention Scott's "presence" on the ice, get a fucking clue. A player that can't be trusted to skate more than three minutes a game doesn't belong in today's NHL. Period.

But the absolute killer of this team is the special teams. Absolutely unacceptable to have this much talent being so fucking God-awful on the PP and PK. When does a coach step in and say, "stop passing the puck all around the rink. Just get it into one of the players in the corner, drive your ass to the net, and have everyone else crash." A fluky goal will probably come of that, at some point. I think it's fair to say improved special teams could've given the Hawks 6-8 more points this year. Easy. Stop putting Sharp (and all other forwards, for that matter) on the point. Sharp should be firing wristers from 20-30 feet out, not trying to find a seam from the point. The month or so while #10 was out, the Hawks were using D-men at both point positions and I don't recall the PP being all that terrible during that time. I still want Sharp out there, but as a forward.

The constant line juggling has gotten out of control with Q.

But spot on post.

 

[Derkach77]

I'm relaxed. Derkach is one of the biggest homers i've ever seen.

Im a homer for just stating a fact that we lost 10 in a row?....10 games from now you will forget about this rough stretch...be patient and relax...don't call someone a homer when you know absolutely nothing about them either...kids these days with such harsh accusations.

 

[Capt. Serious]

In your world, everything is sunshine & rainbow's..

 

[inactiveuser1]

:jackson:

 

[DewsSox79]

Im a homer for just stating a fact that we lost 10 in a row?....10 games from now you will forget about this rough stretch...be patient and relax...don't call someone a homer when you know absolutely nothing about them either...kids these days with such harsh accusations.

whether you are a homer or not or a kid or an adult (im 32) you have to look beyond surface issues. Say you arent watching the games in detail (not saying you arent) and you pick up the paper and read about the current losing streak one can go back and say it has happened before and what not. The difference with this is the specific play that has lead to this losing streak. The losing streak before did not have the play that we are seeing now. We are seeing problems with every aspect of this team, almost like a team where a coach has lost all control.

 

[inactiveuser1]

whether you are a homer or not or a kid or an adult (im 32) you have to look beyond surface issues. Say you arent watching the games in detail (not saying you arent) and you pick up the paper and read about the current losing streak one can go back and say it has happened before and what not. The difference with this is the specific play that has lead to this losing streak. The losing streak before did not have the play that we are seeing now. We are seeing problems with every aspect of this team, almost like a team where a coach has lost all control.

Dewey steps in to enlighten us all :bow:

 

[southern_cross_116]

we lost 10 in a row in stanley cup run...u guys need to relax

Except that the Trib is saying that it is the longest losing streak since 2007-08

Blackhawks-Coyotes: Skid hits eight, as Chicago Blackhawks fall 3-0 - chicagotribune.com

Which means one of you is mistaken (don't automatically think that I give the Trib the benefit of the doubt - in hockey matters I don't normally -but I also am not looking it up.). Lose 4 more and they tie the franchise record ... I think they have it in them ... only they will have to really be on the bottom of their game to lose one to Columbus in that stretch.

In fact if they lose 4 more they could actually seemingly go for 15 in a row ... man that would be sweet- right up there with Chicago's rich tradition of futility... and an epic meltdown that is really worthy of our heritage .... from top of the league in point's standings to potentially competing for a lottery pick. And all in the same season too...

Hey I know, let's come up with a marketting gimmick. . . Disco Demolition Night, or maybe nickel beer night. . . pick a random fan from the stands to win an intermission contest ... this time though to make it interesting ... the fan gets to fight John Scott...

Maybe have some relays where the mascot races Brunette in a relay drill...

Now that's entertainment. . . something to share photos about at the next convention ... lol ...

good thing it's still hockey -as it might have threatened to get lost in all of the gimmickry.

 

[DMelt36]

The worst stretch during the Cup year happened in late March. They lost 8 of 11 games, including an 8-3 embarrassment in Columbus. There were a couple of 3-game losing skids mixed in there, as well. But nothing like we're seeing now.

But they followed that up with a 6-game winning streak.

 

[Sunbiz1]

we lost 10 in a row in stanley cup run...u guys need to fucking relax

Ah, finally a voice of reason...too soon to panic.

 

[southern_cross_116]

Question -- how can you cite something as "a voice of reason" when the premise to the conclusion is empirically wrong in the first place?

 

[DMelt36]

Ah, finally a voice of reason...too soon to panic.

Then, when do you propose is a good time for panic?

I'm not there yet, but I've begun scoping out some nice, high cliffs for me throw myself from the top of, and I'm probably one more bad loss from making a a choice and hiking my way there.

This team is in a freefall. It'd be different if they were losing on last-second goals or by one/two goal deficits every night, but they're not. They were somewhat competitive for a period in San Jose, but then they completely laid an egg the next night in Phoenix.

It's not that they've lost so many games in a row. It's that they haven't shown any signs of winning one soon.

[Edit] After reading what I wrote, I'd like to change my beginning and say that yes, I'm joining the panic party as well. Off to find my ledge.

 

[DewsSox79]

il join in the panic

 

[southern_cross_116]

:/ No panic, but have a feeling like wanting to vomit ... I think it is more of a free fall effect.

 

[nwfisch]

Goodbye world :shot:

 

[Everyday I'm Byfuglien]

The worst stretch during the Cup year happened in late March. They lost 8 of 11 games, including an 8-3 embarrassment in Columbus. There were a couple of 3-game losing skids mixed in there, as well. But nothing like we're seeing now.

But they followed that up with a 6-game winning streak.

Late March... when things were pretty well wrapped up and when most front running teams tend to ease off the gas in anticipation of the playoffs.

And wasn't that Columbus game Huet's last shot as a starter which he absolutley blew? I think he got pulled and then was put back inonly to let in like 4 moregoals.

Ah, good times.

 

[Capt. Serious]

CSNBoden Chris Boden
Just intvwd. #Blackhawks' Stan Bowman for tonite's "SportsNet Central" at 630 & tomorrow's pregame. Q is "absolutely" the guy moving fwd

 

[DMelt36]

Late March... when things were pretty well wrapped up and when most front running teams tend to ease off the gas in anticipation of the playoffs.

And wasn't that Columbus game Huet's last shot as a starter which he absolutley blew? I think he got pulled and then was put back inonly to let in like 4 moregoals.

Ah, good times.

Yes, Huet was fucking miserable in net that game. I remember watching 2 or 3 of the goals go in and wondering how an NHL goalie could've done that. Soft doesn't begin to describe it.

Yeah, the Hawks had a playoff berth locked up then, but they were still playing for a top seed, so I don't know how much I'd attribute to them "easing off the gas." They just had a bad month. Maybe that's what this team is doing, but I'm not so optimistic.