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Norte Dame had the GOAT Joe Montana and then NOTHING
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I am about as anti-OSU as it gets. Major bias against them. I became a football fan as a kid when I lived in the UP of Michigan; I moved to Ohio where EVERYONE is a buckeyes fan, despite nobody having even a relative that went to OSU. I went to Ohio University, and Ohio State students came to our parties, left a mess and skipped town. I have three siblings with degrees from OSU and I am very bitter about it.
That being said, I have come around to the fact that most QBs suck at the NFL level, and it might not be 100% on OSU that their QBs have yet to successfully make the leap to the NFL.
That being said, I have come around to the fact that most QBs suck at the NFL level, and it might not be 100% on OSU that their QBs have yet to successfully make the leap to the NFL.
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What is your definition of suck, and how does it pertain to Duke basketball players in the NBA?
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its about him getting the opportunity like your Fitzpatricks, Josh McCowns etc.
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Why hasnt Navy produced more Roger Staubachs
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Sounds to me like Kirby did him a favor.
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Dude, I just talked about you being a candidate for most improved, then you pull this shit?
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You'd have to look at who coached Staubach at Navy and the type of offense they ran. Then you'd have to look at their coaching and offensive scheme over the past few yrs.
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As a ND fan, this is true. The best season any ND QB has had since Joe Cool was Beurlein in 99 with Carolina
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Beurlein might've been good in 99 at Carolina( w-l.... 8-8-0) but at ND........
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Brady Quinn .......?
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I get that but those are all completely different eras
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You nailed it bro. None of those guys was in the same hemisphere as JF as far as being a qb goes. Those guys were athletes who played qb while Fields is an athletic qb. I remember hearing about Fields his first year at OSU and thinking he was going to be another one of these guys so i went into the first game i saw him in with a meh attitude about him. Did not take long to change my mind once i saw him drop some deep dimes and some lasers into some tight windows. Been a fan since and still cant believe hes a Bear.
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I have tbh but i thought Quinn was going to be a decent qb in the NFL. Not an elite guy but a guy that would have some success and be solid. Maybe make a pro bowl or two.
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Franchise QBs can come from anywhere. Thats the problem. Its a combination of QB talent, his drive or motivation, his coaching, and his team. You just don't know.
Right now Clemson can be considered QB U.
Right now Clemson can be considered QB U.
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I can only talk about players from this century, but basically, Ohio State has had a number of quarterbacks were very good college players, but had skillsets that didn’t translate to the NFL. Also, they didn’t actually start recruiting at an elite level until Urban Meyer arrived, under Jim Tressel they were solid in recruiting, but weren’t recruiting at the level of programs like Alabama, LSU, Florida, etc. But as for their recent QBs...
- Troy Smith was a great early dual-threat QB, but he was undersized and didn’t fit the NFL’s prototype for quarterbacks back then. If he’d come into the league a decade later, he might’ve been a lot more successful.
- Todd Boeckman was the definition of mediocre, his ceiling was a 3rd string NFL QB.
- Terrelle Pryor was 6’6”, 240, and ran a 4.3, but he was never a good passer, so he moved to WR in the NFL and had a brief but solid career.
- Braxton Miller was absurdly talented, basically Michael Vick-lite, but he had a devastating shoulder injury and had to move to WR.
- Cardale Jones was literally Jamarcus Russell 2.0 in terms of his physical abilities, but it became clear during his first full year as a starter at OSU that he couldn’t read defenses and run an offense effectively, and he was benched.
- JT Barrett was OSU’s Tim Tebow: off the charts leadership, toughness, intangibles, excellent running ability, etc., but he just plain didn’t have an NFL arm
- Dwayne Haskins was OSU’s first real prototypical 1st round NFL QB prospect, but his career was derailed by work ethic and character issues more than anything else. (I wrote about him in more detail in a different post).
- Justin Fields will be the greatest QB in Bears franchise history.
Since they’ve hired Ryan Day, Ohio State is now recruiting pro style quarterbacks and running something closer to a pro style offense. They’ve got two former 5* recruits on the roster currently who have a chance to be drafted a few years from now, and they’ve got a 2022 recruit signed who’s rated higher than Trevor Lawrence coming out of high school.
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Quinn was in tough situation being drafted by the Browns ( and going back & forth between he and Derek Anderson).
From there he bounced to 6 different teams ?
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Frankly, it's just NFL confirmation bias.
Better qb prospects go to schools that have a history of getting qbs into the NFL and being successful, hence narrowing the pool. Has more to do with recruiting than anything else.
And like others said, it doesn't happen until it does, and when it does, recruiters may use that to entice better prospects who otherwise might have gone elsewhere.
The one mistake fans make in why x college hasn't produced y player in the NFL is they never look at the recruiting pool for that position the college is pulling from.
Better qb prospects go to schools that have a history of getting qbs into the NFL and being successful, hence narrowing the pool. Has more to do with recruiting than anything else.
And like others said, it doesn't happen until it does, and when it does, recruiters may use that to entice better prospects who otherwise might have gone elsewhere.
The one mistake fans make in why x college hasn't produced y player in the NFL is they never look at the recruiting pool for that position the college is pulling from.