I guess those late season collapses back to back seasons have nothing to do with Manuel's tinkering and poor decisions. My bad.
Peavy wasn't injury prone when he pitched for San Diego. He averaged 30 starts a season in SD....
Reinsdorf wanted Ozzie. KW wanted Cito Gaston
Its KW's fault Manuel and Ozzie were shitty managers?
Every season, the Sox had the better team than the Twins, Tigers, or Indians, and always finished second or third. That's on Ozzie, and Jerry Manual.
Kenny built the teams to win, poor management did them in. The talent was there, the leadership wasn't.
I fail to see how Manuel and Ozzie were on Jerry. He signs the checks, managers are under the GM.
As far as Peavy goes, his last year in SD he was coming off injury. He was a risky signing. You don't see that? But you also said "injuries" so I assume you have more examples then just him. Let's hear them. Let's also hear why there wasn't more depth and a much, much, much better farm system in place for those injuries. Under KW's regime, the White Sox have had a pathetic, bottom of the barrel farm system.
Manuel & Ozzie were shitty managers, huh? Whose fault is that? Their boss? KW? Interesting.... And if you respond with "those are Jerry guys" well then all you are admitting is that Jerry runs the team and KW is just a puppet.
And to your last point, that every year the Sox were better on paper then the division, then thi "debate" is over. Do you follow baseball?? The yankees are the paper champions every year, yet they rarely win. It is all about good production, good coaches, AND incredible team chemistry. All of those are the GMs responsibility.
I respect your opinion, but all you have pointed out is that KW has done a barely average job with players, coaches, depth (the farm system) and maybe being the owner's lap dog. Once again, in the second weakest divison, with one of the highest payrolls year in and year out, 2 playoffs in 12 years is hardly doing a good job.
