Woj: Thibs making his last stand with the Bulls

[Diddy1122]

You don't believe for one second that Woj asked an assistant what's going on, and the assistant didn't want to say a word?

No I don't because it wasn't Woj who spoke to the "assistant", it was an unnamed "visitng scout". Scout of what? Well none of us have a damn clue.

When a visiting scout visited the Bulls practice facility in the past year or so, he had the opportunity to watch the awkward, strange interplay between Bulls general manager Gar Forman and Thibodeau. Eventually, the man walked into the office of an assistant coach and asked: "What the hell is the deal here?"

Before answering, the coach turned his fan on full blast. For the visitor, everything was becoming even stranger. He gave the assistant a befuddled look, as though to say, "What are you doing?"

"I'm not taking any chances," the coach said, refusing to risk the possibility of those walls being bugged.

This reads like bad creative writing. "A visiting scout visited the Bulls".... Christ, my 8 year old niece can write better than that. "What the hell is the deal here?" Who in the world walks into someone's office, in which they are a visitor mind you, and throws out a loaded question like that peppered with an expletive? No one does that in real life.

We all know that Thibs and the FO don't have a buddy-buddy relationship. Nor has any coach had one with Paxson during his tenure at the top of the Bulls FO. However, this isn't exclusive to one team. There are plenty of coaches and their FO's who are not always on the same page. George Karl didn't get along with his FO in Denver for years, yet he still coached them for 9 seasons. Phil and Krause couldn't STAND each other and won 6 championships together.

There is nothing concrete in this story to me that indicates that their relationship is irreparably damaged. The entire 1st half of the article is Woj taking quotes from Thibs completely out of context and trying to spin it that "Thibs knows" his time is up after this year. Thibs is talking about how with almost every team the window for championships is small and that his players know they have the best chance to win now more than ever. That's where the "This is it" line comes in.

To add to this, K.C. Johnson, the REAL Bulls insider, has repeatedly said he believes Thibs will be back next season. If he's not reporting this, then it gives me serious pause to any veracity within this article.

 

[knoxville7]

The assistant may have not wanted to say a word, but I don't believe the "office is bugged" part of that story.

We know there's a feud. A guy with more knowledge than anyone on the situation, KC Johnson, has said the feud is on both sides.

it wouldn't completely shock me if the offices were bugged. people with great power/authority tend to end up paranoid as ****

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

I wouldn't be too sure about Hoiberg anymore.

 

[Scoot26]

I wouldn't be too sure about Hoiberg anymore.

Because of his shitty NCCA Tournament performance?

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Because of his shitty NCCA Tournament performance?

Because of recent open heart surgery.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...erg-surgery-watershed-moment-career/25879577/

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Actually, as I read that article more, you're talking a 42 year old guy who has had two open heart surgeries. Young kids, and the travel and pressure of NBA coaching.

Doesn't exactly equal out to wanting a change of situation.

 

[Scoot26]

Because of recent open heart surgery.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...erg-surgery-watershed-moment-career/25879577/

Meh. I didn't really want him anyways. Just seemed like the media's favorite person to suggest.

 

[Scoot26]

Actually, as I read that article more, you're talking a 42 year old guy who has had two open heart surgeries. Young kids, and the travel and pressure of NBA coaching.

Doesn't exactly equal out to wanting a change of situation.

Which is what I"ve said since the beginning. He is in his own perfect situation at Iowa State.. Its his absolute dream job.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Meh. I didn't really want him anyways. Just seemed like the media's favorite person to suggest.

Which is what I"ve said since the beginning. He is in his own perfect situation at Iowa State.. Its his absolute dream job.

I don't want him either. I like our current coach.

 

[defensegetsmehard]

Don't fire Thibs

 

[TishLover]

Yahoo is going nuts with this news
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports....lls-managements-desire-to-dump-tom-thibodeau/

been seeing one of this news everyday for last 4~5 days on Yahoo now.
(link up there is just one I was able to catch)

 

[Axl Rose]

yeah the relationship is bad but to the point they are "obsessed" with firing him? hoping we lose? bugging walls?

Woj is pretty good with news but hes had a vendetta against the Bulls front office for some time now which causes me to question the authenticity of what hes saying here

i have to agree with Diddy...what kinda visitor goes into somebodies office and ask that type of question

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

I will worry about this after our season is done right now these reports can kiss my ass

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

The wanting the Bulls to lose was pure speculation on my part. It was nowhere in the article.

 

[Axl Rose]

The wanting the Bulls to lose was pure speculation on my part. It was nowhere in the article.

it is in the article

Amid the twisted culture of Chicago's regime – where winning is losing, where success is failure – management can't wait to rid itself of one Tom Thibodeau

unless im misinterpreting...that sounds like the FO wants to the Bulls to fail so they can get rid of thibs easier

 

[Scoot26]

it is in the article



unless im misinterpreting...that sounds like the FO wants to the Bulls to fail so they can get rid of thibs easier

And if that were the case, they would have kept Boozer and trotted out that sorry ass lineup from last year.

 

[clonetrooper264]

And if that were the case, they would have kept Boozer and trotted out that sorry ass lineup from last year.

But...but...Gasol is worse than Boozer!

 

[Diddy1122]

it is in the article



unless im misinterpreting...that sounds like the FO wants to the Bulls to fail so they can get rid of thibs easier

Yea that's likely misinterpretation, however, the entire article is an exercise in speculation and misinterpretation. It's chock full of out of context quotes to support Woj's opinion on the matter.

This is why I hate the media in this town because now it's becoming the main story. Not the Bulls best chance at a ring post-MJ, not the Bulls handing Lebron his first game 1 loss at home in his entire career, not Butler's great defense on Lebron, not Rose coming back into MVP form. Oh no, it has to be the most negative, half-truthed nonsense to get site hits, tv ratings, and radio listeners. It's shameful but that's what almost all "journalism" is today. It's sensationalism.

 

[Scoot26]

Yea that's likely misinterpretation, however, the entire article is an exercise in speculation and misinterpretation. It's chock full of out of context quotes to support Woj's opinion on the matter.

This is why I hate the media in this town because now it's becoming the main story. Not the Bulls best chance at a ring post-MJ, not the Bulls handing Lebron his first game 1 loss at home in his entire career, not Butler's great defense on Lebron, not Rose coming back into MVP form. Oh no, it has to be the most negative, half-truthed nonsense to get site hits, tv ratings, and radio listeners. It's shameful but that's what almost all "journalism" is today. It's sensationalism.

Ummmm they lost Game 1 in Miami to us in 2013 and I think they lost to the Spurs in the Finals too.

Unless you mean in Cleveland.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

it is in the article



unless im misinterpreting...that sounds like the FO wants to the Bulls to fail so they can get rid of thibs easier

That seems more editorial than fact.