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I realize Ryobi gets shit on in a lot of circles, but I've been REALLY happy with the 18v brushless cordless drill / impact driver set I've had for a few years now. Build quality seems really good, battery life good, plenty of power. Maybe I'd feel different if I was a contractor beating the tools up on a job site all day, every day. But for my purposes they have been great tools. I can't comment on anything in their corded tool category, like a miter saw.
I got a Milwaukee 18V, brushless. Was on sale at Home Depot for $109. I negotiated it down to $59
 

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If we are talking cordless, the Dewalt 20v is my go to.
I can't speak to the saws, but I use the impact driver and drill every day.
I picked up the 5 ah battery 2 pack and they are outstanding.
From sub zero Temps to 100, they deliver extended power. Recharge time is lightning fast.

Durability is off the charts- i dropped the impact driver from 35 feet up on to a road- just a little dent in the housing.
I have used them in torrential rain without a single issue.


On the saw front- I have an old school worm drive circular saw that has sentimental value...plus I jave had it so long that I know every quirk it has and I can use that one far better than any others I have gotten.
It finally died on me a few years back.
Rather than toss it, I took it to a shop that rebuilds starters and alternators and pumps... he was able to rewind it and bring it right back to life.

Point being, if you can get your hands on some high end gear that is used, they can be refurbished and last another 20 years for a reasonable price.
 

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If we are talking cordless, the Dewalt 20v is my go to.
I can't speak to the saws, but I use the impact driver and drill every day.
I picked up the 5 ah battery 2 pack and they are outstanding.
From sub zero Temps to 100, they deliver extended power. Recharge time is lightning fast.

Durability is off the charts- i dropped the impact driver from 35 feet up on to a road- just a little dent in the housing.
I have used them in torrential rain without a single issue.


On the saw front- I have an old school worm drive circular saw that has sentimental value...plus I jave had it so long that I know every quirk it has and I can use that one far better than any others I have gotten.
It finally died on me a few years back.
Rather than toss it, I took it to a shop that rebuilds starters and alternators and pumps... he was able to rewind it and bring it right back to life.

Point being, if you can get your hands on some high end gear that is used, they can be refurbished and last another 20 years for a reasonable price.
I got a Dewalt hammer drill that got dropped off a 3 story house and works just fine still. It's a beast.
 

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I mostly care about the fencing... I want to be able to make accurate, square cuts. Is this not a concern with some of these cheaper jobsite saws?

It is definitely a concern but you can build your own fence and the saw makes true cuts.
 

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Craftsman is just a name now that got sold off in the slice and dice of the Sears empire by Eddie Lampert....none of those brands (Craftsman, Kenmore, DieHard, Roadhandler) are worth crap anymore...every Sears hand tool used to come with a no questions asked lifetime warranty.
If I recall correctly, Craftsman hand tools were made by the company that sells them as Rigid once the craftsman contract was up.

Kenmore was made by different manufacturers at different times. A repair site for appliances I once used (I believe it was Samurai Repairman) said "if you have a Kenmore, the first thing you need to know is who made it. And don't say 'Sears'. Sears don't make nothin' but money!" (once upon a time).
 

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Another source for getting tools at a good price is estate sales. It is , of course, hit and miss as to what is available, similar to items at Re-Store, but when someone has quality tools at an estate sales, they are often the first things to go, but can save you 50%.

When my daughter was getting a place of her own, I discovered a site called Estatesales.net. You can set the parameters for the area you are interested in, and get a weekly email of upcoming sales. You look online at what they have for sale and don't have to leave the house unless they have something you are interested in. It's efficient, and I have gotten some good stuff at great prices.

And nearly every sale drops the prices to 50% on the last day - if you find stuff still available it gets even cheaper. Or, late in the next to last day, make them an offer of 60-65% and walk away with it without having to return.

For a table saw or a drill press? Great place to get one if you are comfortable it's in good shape.

Last summer I was late for a chance to walk away with a Big Green Egg at a $400-$500 savings. Somebody got a great deal.
 

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I realize Ryobi gets shit on in a lot of circles, but I've been REALLY happy with the 18v brushless cordless drill / impact driver set I've had for a few years now. Build quality seems really good, battery life good, plenty of power. Maybe I'd feel different if I was a contractor beating the tools up on a job site all day, every day. But for my purposes they have been great tools. I can't comment on anything in their corded tool category, like a miter saw.
HF and Ryobi are comparable. I think Ryobi is made a little better but I can positively say as a person whose cordless drill was used almost every day at work you don't want either because they won't last. But for a home shop they would be perfect. All I have been trying to say is that some people decide they are going to start woodworking and immediately go out and spend 10K on tools and then find out they don't enjoy it and sell the stuff for a nickel on the dollar. My first tools were all HF shit until I decided I loved what I was doing. As an example a good 4 foot clamp is about 40-50 dollars. A HF is about 10 and it will get you buy for a year or two.

Now when I buy tools I shop according to need. If I need a tool for a one time thing I head straight to HF. If I plan on using it on every project I head to Grizzly, Delta, Jet, etc. A simple table saw at HD is 350.00 Get them on Craigslist even less. Also FB marketplace. A basic saw stop is 3500.00 dollars just to start. I can't tell you how many times I have wished I had a 24 inch planer but

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is a bit much. And this one doesn't come close to the most expensive. So I get by with my 500.00 delta.

So....spend accordingly. You can always upgrade. But if you don't have the tools needed to do the job at all you will soon lose interest trying to figure out how to accomplish something that requires a specific tool.
 

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Basic list of woodworking tools:

Table saw
circular saw
router
clamps of all sizes...1 foot all the way up to 5 feet
planer
drill press
miter saw(preferably compound)
and probably 20 things I forgot.

It can add up quick even buying from HF
 

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Basic list of woodworking tools:

Table saw
circular saw
router
clamps of all sizes...1 foot all the way up to 5 feet
planer
drill press
miter saw(preferably compound)
and probably 20 things I forgot.

It can add up quick even buying from HF
Recommendation for a router? Also planers? I have some analog planers but is there a good powered version u use?
 

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Another source for getting tools at a good price is estate sales. It is , of course, hit and miss as to what is available, similar to items at Re-Store, but when someone has quality tools at an estate sales, they are often the first things to go, but can save you 50%.

When my daughter was getting a place of her own, I discovered a site called Estatesales.net. You can set the parameters for the area you are interested in, and get a weekly email of upcoming sales. You look online at what they have for sale and don't have to leave the house unless they have something you are interested in. It's efficient, and I have gotten some good stuff at great prices.

And nearly every sale drops the prices to 50% on the last day - if you find stuff still available it gets even cheaper. Or, late in the next to last day, make them an offer of 60-65% and walk away with it without having to return.

For a table saw or a drill press? Great place to get one if you are comfortable it's in good shape.

Last summer I was late for a chance to walk away with a Big Green Egg at a $400-$500 savings. Somebody got a great deal.

I am a sucker for estate sales. I find it virtually impossible to walk by one without stopping.

I have a weakness for older power tools.
The last guilty pleasure I scored is an ancient black and decker hedge trimmer.. so old it has a metal housing and a 2 position on off switch rather than a trigger. The on off switch is the only plastic part.
...the kind of tool that would wind up being fatal in ommys hand and a half.
 

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I am a sucker for estate sales. I find it virtually impossible to walk by one without stopping.

I have a weakness for older power tools.
The last guilty pleasure I scored is an ancient black and decker hedge trimmer.. so old it has a metal housing and a 2 position on off switch rather than a trigger. The on off switch is the only plastic part.
...the kind of tool that would wind up being fatal in ommys hand and a half.
I have a couple old hand tools my dad gave me, and I am apparently a sucker for those (though I have no intention of using them). A drill from the days before electric drills, and a soldering iron also pre-electric. It's almost funny in it's crudeness, though I know there were craftsmen using it far better than I would use the best today.
 

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I am a sucker for estate sales. I find it virtually impossible to walk by one without stopping.

I have a weakness for older power tools.
The last guilty pleasure I scored is an ancient black and decker hedge trimmer.. so old it has a metal housing and a 2 position on off switch rather than a trigger. The on off switch is the only plastic part.
...the kind of tool that would wind up being fatal in ommys hand and a half.
I got a sweet ham radio at an estate sale years back. Been tuning in lately to find out when the storm is coming.
 

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I have a couple old hand tools my dad gave me, and I am apparently a sucker for those (though I have no intention of using them). A drill from the days before electric drills, and a soldering iron also pre-electric. It's almost funny in it's crudeness, though I know there were craftsmen using it far better than I would use the best today.

I got an ancient soldering iron in a random 5 dollar box of shit from an estate sale....massive tip, threadbare cord and a wooden handle with no on/off switch.

I have not tried it yet but I am dying to.
 

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