Would you do this?

[DaaBears]

I'd rather have John Lynch. I actually think Shanahan has underperformed with the talent Lynch has given him. The excuse is the injuries every year , but all coaches got to deal with that.

 

[Myk]

Sean McVay benched and traded a first overall pick quarterback and Kyle Shanahan benched and traded a quarterback he gave up three firsts for. I heard this segment, I thought it was very interesting and a bit of reality check to Bearsworld when Mike Florio repeatedly said “Now, for the right coach who believes in Caleb Williams…” as if his stardom were in doubt. Hosts ignored it, but Florio kept saying it.

In order for these guys to want the job they are going to want full control. No DEI mandates from ownership, no GM being overprotective of “his guy” at quarterback, no bullshit. Bears simply won’t give that, its a non-starter.

Would you trade Rome Odunze and Darnell Wright for Kyle Shanahan? If you answer your no you need to get your head checked.

Are you drunk 24/7?

"It won't ever happen."
"Why wouldn't you do it?"
LOL

If those guys weren't 100% on Williams that's a hard no even without giving up another 1st. You made the argument to say no and then complain about a no?
WTF are you going on about?

 

[msadows]

Are you drunk 24/7?

"It won't ever happen."
"Why wouldn't you do it?"
LOL

If those guys weren't 100% on Williams that's a hard no even without giving up another 1st. You made the argument to say no and then complain about a no?
WTF are you going on about?

same guy said the bears need to rebuild because everyone is old(evidently 28 is old in the nfl) and wants to trade the two youngest guys outside caleb on the team for a coach

lol wtf?

 

[msadows]

Also, didnt the denver pick basically account to the 20th pick in the first round since they got a 3rd back?

If so thats a lot less than paying two top 10 picks. I dont think any coach is worth that.

 

[Bears4Ever_34]

100%. There's nothing more important in football than the HC/QB relationship. If I know I already have the quarterback, which I believe they do, and I can go out and acquire the HC everybody's offense around the league is trying to emulate, hell yeah, I'd do it!

I'm not doing the Gruden package of 2 1st's + 2 2nd's, but something similar to what DEN had to give up for Sean Payton is more than fair.

 

[iueyedoc]

Did you see Borom last week? He looked like a bull fighter. That’s Borom calling.

Yeah, and he is a backup, albeit a shitty one. Not saying OL isn't 1 and 1a on draft need, but 3 weeks of coaching has made them not awful, so I don't rule out a big bumpin quality of play if they get proper coaching.

 

[baselman1974]

Yeah, and he is a backup, albeit a shitty one. Not saying OL isn't 1 and 1a on draft need, but 3 weeks of coaching has made them not awful, so I don't rule out a big bumpin quality of play if they get proper coaching.

Braxton Jones sucked. He was being pushed back. So was Jenkins. It looked not good.

 

[SugabearMVP]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1863972067491672148

I really dont understand the full on love fest some have here for Shanny. The guy couldn't get Lance to become a good QB and was saved by JimmyG until he got injured. Purdy works well for that system, and I'm not saying Shanny is garbage, but I would definitely not be "all in" for him.

 

[Zvbxrpl]

Stop this madness.

The 49ers aren’t getting rid of him. And if they do—it’ll be for something that will make teams avoid him like the plague, including the bears.

 

[iueyedoc]

Braxton Jones sucked. He was being pushed back. So was Jenkins. It looked not good.

Every passing metric instantly improved since Thomas took over. Pressure % for the prior three games was over 35% that dropped to 17% during his 3 games as OC . Again, not saying it is good enough, but to say scheming cant fix things is just false.

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

Found this interesting:

7 times NFL teams traded draft picks for a head coach
Don Shula: 1970.
Bill Parcells: 1997.
Mike Holmgren: 1999.
Bill Belichick: 2000.
Jon Gruden: 2002.
Herm Edwards: 2006.
Bruce Arians: 2019.

 

[Bearly]

Why trade for someone supposedly on the cutting block? And before someone brings up Sean Payton, it's completely different. Sean left on his own without management wanting a change. In a situation where they fire Shanahan, they'll be happy to get contract offsets. If they don't fire him they won't be looking for trade offers either. It would take him telling SF that he wants out for a trade to happen and those odds are extremely low.

Offering something for him before anything goes down would be extremely short sighted. He's not agreeing to go somewhere he doesn't want to anyway. If you want him, wait for the shit to hit the fan, make him the best offer and cross your fingers

 

[Montucky]

Are you drunk 24/7?

"It won't ever happen."
"Why wouldn't you do it?"
LOL

If those guys weren't 100% on Williams that's a hard no even without giving up another 1st. You made the argument to say no and then complain about a no?
WTF are you going on about?

OK so what If Sean McVay is keen leave to LA (long shot) and he interviews with Chicago and in that interview he says he thinks Caleb Williams is a ngmi? Do you just ignore that or do you listen to the guy who certainly knows a lot more than you?

 

[Bears4Ever_34]

I really dont understand the full on love fest some have here for Shanny. The guy couldn't get Lance to become a good QB and was saved by JimmyG until he got injured. Purdy works well for that system, and I'm not saying Shanny is garbage, but I would definitely not be "all in" for him.

You don't understand why anybody would want a head coach who continuously has his team playing for the NFC Championship game or SB every year with Jimmy Garapollo and Brock Purdy?

 

[Myk]

OK so what If Sean McVay is keen leave to LA (long shot) and he interviews with Chicago and in that interview he says he thinks Caleb Williams is a ngmi? Do you just ignore that or do you listen to the guy who certainly knows a lot more than you?

Is he going to get us a #1 pick in return? At least a top 10? Then I don't listen to his tarot cards any more than I listen to yours.
I don't give a shit who it is, nobody can predict the future with 100% accuracy.

You don't spend the money let alone the pick on the guy who says you're going to lose. You find the guy who says you're going to win.
And contrary to what they did with Nagy, you don't listen to a con man telling you what you want to hear.
The amount a coach would cost the Bears to give away a 1st for the coach and the #1 for the QB is a losing move.

That said, how many NFL people have you heard predicting bad things for Williams?
Even if McVay was saying that you'd have a lot more equally talented coaches saying they could make him work.

 

[SugabearMVP]

You don't understand why anybody would want a head coach who continuously has his team playing for the NFC Championship game or SB every year with Jimmy Garapollo and Brock Purdy?

Again, what did he do with Lance? Was it Lance or Shanahan? And if it is Lance, then who's to say Caleb will succeed under Shanny? I mentioned before, I dont think he's bad at all but in my opinion I think he's overrated until he has the right QB and lets not forget how much they overused Deebo years ago until CMC came to save the day.

 

[Montucky]

I really dont understand the full on love fest some have here for Shanny. The guy couldn't get Lance to become a good QB and was saved by JimmyG until he got injured. Purdy works well for that system, and I'm not saying Shanny is garbage, but I would definitely not be "all in" for him.

The point is to win games, not incubate a quarterback.

 

[Montucky]

Is he going to get us a #1 pick in return? At least a top 10? Then I don't listen to his tarot cards any more than I listen to yours.
I don't give a shit who it is, nobody can predict the future with 100% accuracy.

You don't spend the money let alone the pick on the guy who says you're going to lose. You find the guy who says you're going to win.
And contrary to what they did with Nagy, you don't listen to a con man telling you what you want to hear.
The amount a coach would cost the Bears to give away a 1st for the coach and the #1 for the QB is a losing move.

That said, how many NFL people have you heard predicting bad things for Williams?
Even if McVay was saying that you'd have a lot more equally talented coaches saying they could make him work.

And what if winning means benching Caleb Williams? Are you willing to hire somebody who demands the right to do that in 2025?

If the answer is “no” then forget about getting a good candidate. This no doubt applies to the Bears. George McCaskey has his DEI project and he’ll sooner watch more season get flushed down the toilet than see his social movement undermined.

 

[Myk]

And what if winning means benching Caleb Williams? Are you willing to hire somebody who demands the right to do that in 2025?

If the answer is “no” then forget about getting a good candidate. This no doubt applies to the Bears. George McCaskey has his DEI project and he’ll sooner watch more season get flushed down the toilet than see his social movement undermined.

One more time: How many people experienced in the NFL have you heard saying Williams isn't it and needs benched?

Including McVay, where are these imaginary coaches that say Williams isn't the guy you believe exist?
If that is McVay he isn't the coach you want, especially not for a 1st when he wants to come in and cost you a #1. There are plenty of other talented coaches who would be willing to try to make Williams work.
This isn't rocket science.

You are delusional if you think every coach in the NFL is saying Williams is a bust and they need to get rid of him to make the Bears win.

You don't want to create a dynasty of a team, you want to stir together an instant flash in the pan.
So what if Williams is the QB of the next career dynasty like Brady was for NE?

I'd settle for a more likely Williams is the next Paintin Manning playing for a loser org waiting for a bigger loser org to hand them their only Super Bowl win in spite of having a GOAT.

 

[SugarWalls]

I live in San Jose, next door to Santa Clara where Levi Stadium is located. Kyle Shanahan is being increasingly criticized for the poor performance of the 49ers, despiten the injuries to key players. So no thanks.

LOL so because you live in San Jose and listen to the local media which are almost always wrong just like the bears media that everyone on here hates, I am supposed to believe that Shanahan is to blame for the 49ers woes?