Would you really be that surprised if we made the playoffs this year?

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If you read the post, I said that White is a potential Pro Bowler. All draft analysts and scouts seem to agree. There are two big differences between how the Bears "fixed" the defense last year and what they have done with the offense this year. First, last year the Bears brought in a bunch of guys from bad teams (LaMarr Houston) or who were on the down swing of their careers (Jared Allen). The Bears were also counting on old guys like Peanut, Briggs, and DJ Williams to be good. This year, the holes on offense were patched with rookies or guys still in their primes. Nobody on the offense is in the twilight of their career except maybe Forte.

Second, last year wasn't going to work no matter who was on the field because the defensive coaching was a joke. While I don't think Adam Gase and the offensive staff is as accomplished as Fangio/Fox and the defensive staff, he is at least competent and potentially even good or very good.


Forte, Cutler, Bushrod, Slauson.
 

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I would be shocked.

Do I have to given reasons or preface this with a 'but it would be a nice suprise if we did ...' kind of thing so I don't get lablelled a hater or something?
 

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I would be shocked.

Do I have to given reasons or preface this with a 'but it would be a nice suprise if we did ...' kind of thing so I don't get lablelled a hater or something?

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Forte, Cutler, Bushrod, Slauson.

Bushrod is 30 and Slauson is 29. For offensive linemen, that is not the "twilight" of their careers. They could easily play 3-4 more productive years. Cutler is 32, about the same age as Aaron Rodgers, 2 years younger than Eli Manning, and 1 year younger than Philip Rivers. Are those guys in the twilight of their careers?

I already mentioned in my previous post that nobody is in the twilight EXCEPT maybe Forte, so I acknowledged that, but drafting Langford and signing Rodgers should make up for some of the lost production (if any) from Forte.
 

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No kidding, that would, mean likely retaining Cutler as QB.

So you want to see Cutler play bad again so it guarantees that he is gone?

You want to see the team play bad again so it guarantees that he is gone?

Nothing would be worse to you then to see Cutler have a good year; the Bears to have a good year and go 10-6 but lose in the WC round?
 

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So you want to see Cutler play bad again so it guarantees that he is gone?

You want to see the team play bad again so it guarantees that he is gone?

Nothing would be worse to you then to see Cutler have a good year; the Bears to have a good year and go 10-6 but lose in the WC round?

No, it's an acute awareness that one year Cutler could play at a high level and then the next year he'll tally 20-plus turnovers and struggle to be consistent in the passing game.

Cutler could be great one year and horrible the next. I'm done with over a decade of that type of inconsistency between Cutler and Grossman.
 

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I think that any real Bears fan would love to see Cutler have a great year and the Bears make the playoffs. But I think any reasonable Bears fan understands that scenario is a very long shot. Cutler certainly has the ability to get it done but he has to grow up mentally football-wise. And I think any reasonable Bears fan understands that scenario, too, is a very long shot.

Anyone who would not like to see the Bears make the playoffs, regardless of who is at QB, is not a fan.
 

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Bushrod is 30 and Slauson is 29. For offensive linemen, that is not the "twilight" of their careers. They could easily play 3-4 more productive years. Cutler is 32, about the same age as Aaron Rodgers, 2 years younger than Eli Manning, and 1 year younger than Philip Rivers. Are those guys in the twilight of their careers?

I already mentioned in my previous post that nobody is in the twilight EXCEPT maybe Forte, so I acknowledged that, but drafting Langford and signing Rodgers should make up for some of the lost production (if any) from Forte.


Bushrod played the entire 2014 season like he was already retired, Slauson has had injury problems 2 of the last 3 years, Cutler is definitely in the twilight of his Bears career, and even mentioning him in any comparison to Rodgers, no matter how small, is comical. As for RB, Langford is unproven, and Jack Whizz sucks.
 

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No, it's an acute awareness that one year Cutler could play at a high level and then the next year he'll tally 20-plus turnovers and struggle to be consistent in the passing game.

Cutler could be great one year and horrible the next. I'm done with over a decade of that type of inconsistency between Cutler and Grossman.

But are you confident that the Bears GM would get rid of Cutler if he had a good year for him and then team made the playoffs?
 

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But are you confident that the Bears GM would get rid of Cutler if he had a good year for him and then team made the playoffs?

Probably not a lot of good QB talent available at the back end of the first round so I could see the staff retaining him yet again. The good news is his deal is essentially a three year deal, but it goes for seven. If at any time Cutler justifies being retained the. Bears can do so, if not he's gone with no gnashing of teeth. He's got his once chance and if he has the best year of his career, the Bears are playoff bound.

This team succeeding will come down to Cutler. There's nothing left to say, the entire achievement of this team is based solely on how well Cutler plays.
 

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Probably not a lot of good QB talent available at the back end of the first round so I could see the staff retaining him yet again. The good news is his deal is essentially a three year deal, but it goes for seven. If at any time Cutler justifies being retained the. Bears can do so, if not he's gone with no gnashing of teeth. He's got his once chance and if he has the best year of his career, the Bears are playoff bound.

This team succeeding will come down to Cutler. There's nothing left to say, the entire achievement of this team is based solely on how well Cutler plays.

FanBois have been agreeing to "No more excuses" for 4 years now, and every offseason we get more excuses, although, the crowd has diminished.
 

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But he provided examples that proved his theory correct...

You do know how to read right?

How do you get through H.S. without understanding what the term "proved" means?

Did you get through H.S.?

Also, assuming Langford will make up for any dip im production from Forte is ridiculous. I am not even sold on him ever being a regular starting RB in the league.

Also, Bushrod will be 31 when the season starts, he might not be in the twilight of his career, but a 31 yr old player with 2 seasons of diminished performance USUALLY doesn't have too much longer as a starter.

Also, if they make the playoffs and Cutler plays decently you retain Cutler unless someone offers the farm.

These are no brainers people; wake up.
 

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Personally I would be less surprised if the Bears finished fourth in the division than if they made the playoffs. But nothing surprises me all that much anymore.
 
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Everyone seems to forget this is the NFL, where teams go from worst to first every year.

The Lions definitely got worse this off-season.

The Vikings got better, but which part of the Bears 21-13 victory and 13-9 loss to the Vikings gives you reason to believe they are much ahead of the Bears?

GB is obviously the best team in the division, but they have flaws, particularly on defense. I also think GB is overrated because of what they did last year when they did not have a single impactful injury all season until Rodgers in week 17. That is unheard of and will not happen again.

All that said, of course I think GB is the overwhelming favorite to win the division. But they went 12-4 last year with nary an injury. Is it crazy to think they can go 10-6? If not, is it beyond the realm of possibility the Bears could go 10-6?

Bottom line is I do not expect the Bears to make the playoffs, but I also do not expect them to be as bad as a lot of people think. It wouldn't be crazy for them to go 9-7 or 10-6, either of which could result in a playoff appearance.
 

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Everyone seems to forget this is the NFL, where teams go from worst to first every year.

The Lions definitely got worse this off-season.

The Vikings got better, but which part of the Bears 21-13 victory and 13-9 loss to the Vikings gives you reason to believe they are much ahead of the Bears?

GB is obviously the best team in the division, but they have flaws, particularly on defense. I also think GB is overrated because of what they did last year when they did not have a single impactful injury all season until Rodgers in week 17. That is unheard of and will not happen again.

All that said, of course I think GB is the overwhelming favorite to win the division. But they went 12-4 last year with nary an injury. Is it crazy to think they can go 10-6? If not, is it beyond the realm of possibility the Bears could go 10-6?

Bottom line is I do not expect the Bears to make the playoffs, but I also do not expect them to be as bad as a lot of people think. It wouldn't be crazy for them to go 9-7 or 10-6, either of which could result in a playoff appearance.





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