Your Chicago Blackhawks offseason thread

[Spunky Porkstacker]

Wasn't there always a pause and a " but stupid" that came after the "very interesting"

 

[MassHavoc]

I understand the move from our point of view, but don't understand what Vegas has to send back in the trade? Do we just have to wait to see who they pick off the other teams and then trade Kruger/TVR for them? Does the hawks get to look at the other teams lists first and tell them who they want from the other team and then have them pick that person for them and then we make the trade? If so then it's still going to be a cap hit? I guess I don't understand what we have coming back our way and how that works in this scenario without them having a roster?

 

[HawkWriter]

I understand the move from our point of view, but don't understand what Vegas has to send back in the trade? Do we just have to wait to see who they pick off the other teams and then trade Kruger/TVR for them? Does the hawks get to look at the other teams lists first and tell them who they want from the other team and then have them pick that person for them and then we make the trade? If so then it's still going to be a cap hit? I guess I don't understand what we have coming back our way and how that works in this scenario without them having a roster?

I think the answer is that it could be all of the above and that we will just have to wait and see. Could certainly be that the Blackhawks want Vegas to poach them a cheap back up goalie or another right handed defenseman. Vegas may just send them draft picks. Seems like what the Blackhawks/Knights are doing is just simply laying out the terms or parameters of what the deal may look like if the Blackhawks "allow" the Knights to select TVR instead of trading him away. Also, could be that the Blackhawks may have to even sweeten the pot a little with Kruger, who knows.

 

[MassHavoc]

I think the answer is that it could be all of the above and that we will just have to wait and see. Could certainly be that the Blackhawks want Vegas to poach them a cheap back up goalie or another right handed defenseman. Vegas may just send them draft picks. Seems like what the Blackhawks/Knights are doing is just simply laying out the terms or parameters of what the deal may look like if the Blackhawks "allow" the Knights to select TVR instead of trading him away. Also, could be that the Blackhawks may have to even sweeten the pot a little with Kruger, who knows.

No on the cheap backup goalie, because if we've learned anything on here it's that they are a dime a dozen and anyone is better than Crawford... They should really be trying to trade them crawford instead of Kruger then we could get two cheap backup goalies and win the cup again.

 

[Raskolnikov]

I understand the move from our point of view, but don't understand what Vegas has to send back in the trade? Do we just have to wait to see who they pick off the other teams and then trade Kruger/TVR for them? Does the hawks get to look at the other teams lists first and tell them who they want from the other team and then have them pick that person for them and then we make the trade? If so then it's still going to be a cap hit? I guess I don't understand what we have coming back our way and how that works in this scenario without them having a roster?

http://www.secondcityhockey.com/2017/5/31/15720220/blackhawks-trade-rumors-trevor-van-riemsdyk-golden-knights-2017

Cliff notes.

1. We can trade TVR to another team soon to receive nearly fair compensation. (price probably lower due to need)
2. This is because we can then expose Rozi, so all the bitching about Rozi playtime...it had a nefarious reason all along.
3. Ville Pokka might be the best player they can snatch in draft in that scenario.

So their option is Ville Pokka or just Kruger at 3.09 million in the draft, or we package TVR to them on condition they take Krugers contract from us, or most of it.

 

[HawkWriter]

No on the cheap backup goalie, because if we've learned anything on here it's that they are a dime a dozen and anyone is better than Crawford... They should really be trying to trade them crawford instead of Kruger then we could get two cheap backup goalies and win the cup again.

Rumor was going around that the Knights may select up to 5 goalies and use them as trade bait in order to build up their future/prospects. There will be some decent goalies available for the Knights through the expansion draft.

 

[LordKOTL]

Wasn't there always a pause and a " but stupid" that came after the "very interesting"

Usually...but not just "but stupid". Was always one of my favorite quotes from that show.

I understand the move from our point of view, but don't understand what Vegas has to send back in the trade? Do we just have to wait to see who they pick off the other teams and then trade Kruger/TVR for them? Does the hawks get to look at the other teams lists first and tell them who they want from the other team and then have them pick that person for them and then we make the trade? If so then it's still going to be a cap hit? I guess I don't understand what we have coming back our way and how that works in this scenario without them having a roster?

What hawkwriter said.

No on the cheap backup goalie, because if we've learned anything on here it's that they are a dime a dozen and anyone is better than Crawford... They should really be trying to trade them crawford instead of Kruger then we could get two cheap backup goalies and win the cup again.

This board is usually more levelheaded than most, but in all seriousness with or without Crawford 'the 'hawks are going nowhere with the D being in a steady decline since 2013 and it being completely FUBAR now. The only dependable man on D is Hjammer. That has to change either via incoming talent or a cattleprod suppository for Keith and Seabs.

 

[HawkWriter]

LeBrun reporting that the Blackhawks have signed Dman Jan Rutta. Several teams were after him.

http://www.tsn.ca/blackhawks-sign-czech-d-rutta-1.772489

 

[ClydeLee]

Cue up a Foley comment about having Tree Czech D

But really good to win him, that kempny signing and out rumor of TVR likely to be gone to Vegas either a trade or just the draft potentially clears it up they needed a RHD to join and he has connections.

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[DJMoore_is_fat]

LeBrun reporting that the Blackhawks have signed Dman Jan Rutta. Several teams were after him.

http://www.tsn.ca/blackhawks-sign-czech-d-rutta-1.772489

I like this move. Not expecting him to be the caliber of player Leddy was but definitely adds a more physical and offensive minded dimension to our D core. We were so old and slow -- needed to infuse the back end with more talented youth.

Rutta's like 26, right?

 

[Tater]

I like this move. Not expecting him to be the caliber of player Leddy was but definitely adds a more physical and offensive minded dimension to our D core. We were so old and slow -- needed to infuse the back end with more talented youth.

Rutta's like 26, right?

He's 27.

 

[winos5]

I'm glad they signed the hot prospect out of Europe. I'll withhold opinion until I see him skate.

 

[HawkWriter]

He's 27.

Don't want to be the one to correct something small, but for the record he was born on July 29, 1990. Currently 26 but will be 27 shortly.

 

[HawkWriter]

I'm glad they signed the hot prospect out of Europe. I'll withhold opinion until I see him skate.

Are you sure you don't want to look up YouTube highlight videos of him? Clearly that is the best and coolest way to determine how a player is going to play once he comes to North America.

 

[ClydeLee]

He's already a noted good skater sewing him skate ain't the judgement point on him, he's probably the best RHD skater the Hawks literally have now considering the Dinosaurs in Rozi, Seabrisket, and the T-VRosaur

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[winos5]

By seeing him skate I meant in an Indianhead sweater against NHL competition. I'm not passing judgement in any way for or against him as a player/prospect.

 

[DJMoore_is_fat]

He's already a noted good skater sewing him skate ain't the judgement point on him, he's probably the best RHD skater the Hawks literally have now considering the Dinosaurs in Rozi, Seabrisket, and the T-VRosaur

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I was about say, Seabrook/Oduya/Keith/etc are so slow Rutta's going to look like Apollo Ono out there.


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[DJMoore_is_fat]

Hearing Seabrook could get moved to Vancouver or Toronto.


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[Raskolnikov]

Hearing Seabrook could get moved to Vancouver or Toronto.


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wow. My big question there is did the TVR/Kruger package deal fall through, because then unless we were bluffing, a TVR trade would be imminent. And TVR could be viewed as the compensation for Seabrook salary, uniting the Van Remsdyck's brothers, and shedding a salary. They might not view that much different than Kruger.

Or if we shed Seabrooke with TVR, and leave Vegas the choice of Pokka or Kruger, call their bluff if we sensed some actuall interest in Kruger the player from them.

 

[MassHavoc]

Would hate to see him go after all that he's given and done for this organization, but depending on the deal and how it works out financially, it might be the best play.