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[SilenceS]

Good point but we were suppose to be targeting a young, cost-controlled arm that could slide into the 3rd slot in the rotation and perhaps grow into a TOR. Theo didn't accomplish this. I'm happy with what he did on the offensive/defensive side but he failed with improving the rotation.

You do know we signed John Lackey? Also, trading for a young, cost-controlled arm is not extremely easy. The Cubs want TOR potential not a 3. Also, why do people think moves need to be done right at this second. Thats why you have the trade deadline. You evaluate your weaknesses and try to strengthen them. Also, trading for an arm is way more of a gamble than taking a shot on Baez.

 

[JimJohnson]

You do know we signed John Lackey?

I'm aware. That's not really what I wanted though as we already have an older rotation.

Also, trading for a young, cost-controlled arm is not extremely easy.

Who said it was?

Also, why do people think moves need to be done right at this second. Thats why you have the trade deadline. You evaluate your weaknesses and try to strengthen them.

Oh you mean like David Price last year? When Toronto gave up the moon to get him? That's the kind of move you want the Cubs to make?

Also, trading for an arm is way more of a gamble than taking a shot on Baez.

Theo has always said drafting arms is the biggest risk. Now you're saying trading for an arm is a big risk. So when exactly would you like to get your TOR pitchers?

 

[SilenceS]

I'm aware. That's not really what I wanted though as we already have an older rotation.



Who said it was?



Oh you mean like David Price last year? When Toronto gave up the moon to get him? That's the kind of move you want the Cubs to make?



Theo has always drafting arms is the biggest risk. Now you're saying trading for an arm is a big risk. So when exactly would you like to get your TOR pitchers?

When it makes sense and not give it to me now moment. The Cubs rotation isn't that old. The Mets have a super young rotation and like I said 3 of their top 4 have had major injuries already. Thats the risk. Tommy John is rampant in young pitchers. People are so enamored with a young TOR type. Thats great if you can add him but you don't hurt your team just because people want a new toy. The Cubs are predicted to be the best team this year. Enjoy the ride.

 

[DanTown]

Good point but we were suppose to be targeting a young, cost-controlled arm that could slide into the 3rd slot in the rotation and perhaps grow into a TOR. Theo didn't accomplish this. I'm happy with what he did on the offensive/defensive side but he failed with improving the rotation.

First off, you can't go into an off-season and say "I have this need, I'll spend whatever I need to spend to get it". That's what Arizona has done and I'd argue that they have made their team worse in the future for today's team.

Secondly, the Cubs did improve the rotation: they added Lackey as a solid starter and they added Warren/Cahill to limit the number of innings that guys like Hammel/Hendircks have to pitch.

Third, the need for a cost controlled SP is something that can be acquired when the market corrects itself. If the Cubs get an arm at the deadline or next summer, it doesn't truly impact the team as much.

 

[JimJohnson]

Third, the need for a cost controlled SP is something that can be acquired when the market corrects itself. If the Cubs get an arm at the deadline or next summer, it doesn't truly impact the team as much.

You and Silence don't seem to get this point about deadline trading. When a TOR is available at the deadline, there will be multiple teams that engage in a bidding war for his services. They won't come cheap and you may only get them for a year or two before they hit FA. I would argue that this is possibly the worst time to get a TOR pitcher.

 

[Diehardfan]

You and Silence don't seem to get this point about deadline trading. When a TOR is available at the deadline, there will be multiple teams that engage in a bidding war for his services. They won't come cheap and you may only get them for a year or two before they hit FA. I would argue that this is possibly the worst time to get a TOR pitcher.

What does whining about it on this forum gonna accomplish?

 

[Parade_Rain]

What does whining about it on this forum gonna accomplish?

It makes JJ feel better.

 

[JimJohnson]

What does whining about it on this forum gonna accomplish?

It's not whining. I'm calling bullshit on someone saying that the trade deadline is the best time to get a TOR.

 

[SilenceS]

It's not whining. I'm calling bullshit on someone saying that the trade deadline is the best time to get a TOR.

No one said its the best time. They said you can get an arm at the deadline which teams do every year. Stop going full hawk right now. Breathe and think before your post.

 

[Parade_Rain]

It's not whining. I'm calling bullshit on someone saying that the trade deadline is the best time to get a TOR.

#fullJJ

 

[Diehardfan]

 

[JimJohnson]

No one said its the best time. They said you can get an arm at the deadline which teams do every year. Stop going full hawk right now. Breathe and think before your post.

And I already fucking pointed out the flaw in your theory. Toronto, David Price. Do some research and educate yourself. For the love of God, just go and educate yourself.

 

[SilenceS]

And I already fucking pointed out the flaw in your theory. Toronto, David Price. Do some research and educate yourself. For the love of God, just go and educate yourself.

Why do you keep pointing to David Price? Toronto did not give up a ton for him? Is it because he signed somewhere else? It doesn't even make sense because you are bitching about acquiring young controlled pitcher well if the Cubs trade for that at the deadline. He will still be on the team going forward. I don't even think you know what point you are trying to make.

 

[JimJohnson]

Why do you keep pointing to David Price? Toronto did not give up a ton for him? Is it because he signed somewhere else? It doesn't even make sense because you are bitching about acquiring young controlled pitcher well if the Cubs trade for that at the deadline. He will still be on the team going forward. I don't even think you know what point you are trying to make.

That's because you've steered the conversation in a completely different direction. Cubs failed to acquire a young, cost-controlled starter this offseason because of Theo's inability to let go of Baez. There, conversation back on point. Stick with this.

 

[SilenceS]

That's because you've steered the conversation in a completely different direction. Cubs failed to acquire a young, cost-controlled starter this offseason because of Theo's inability to let go of Baez. There, conversation back on point. Stick with this.

Inability? Do you even know what kind of offers he got? I don't.

 

[JimJohnson]

Inability? Do you even know what kind of offers he got? I don't.

Yes he called me and told me

 

[brett05]

JJ is schooling this board on this point.

 

[SilenceS]

Yes he called me and told me

So, you basically just want him to trade Baez just because you want to trade Baez? You have no idea who is even available out there and the asking price. You are just throwing darts at a wall and hope they stick.

 

[SilenceS]

JJ is schooling this board on this point.

To early for the trolls Brett. Let people have their coffee first.

 

[Diehardfan]

I guess trading Baez for a cost controlled TOR guy....even if he turns out to be crap or blows out an arm and even if Baez turns into a perennial All-Star is the way to go in JimJohnson's world of whine. Not saying that will happen but it could and considering that Baez has less than one year's experience in the big show....call me crazy, but I'm guessing Theo wants to see what he has before shipping him out. There's no rush on this. There is plenty of time to decide....injuries will play into these decisions not only for the Cubs but also for potential trading partners. Just because a handful of goofs in here proclaim the Cub's pitching to be substandard, doesn't mean that's the case. No one knows that for sure....no one.