woe
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LOL thats your opinion,LOL
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our votes is the same like votes in the league who is mvp. so no problem for me at all.
we need to play basketball against each other to have some fun ))). not only talk about it but play this great game....
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If my opinion was Nazi Germany > U.S., I'm pretty sure anybody who based me would be in the right.
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Hakeem>Pippen for the same reason Pippen>Larry Johnson or Rik Smits.
Guy A is playing at a much higher level than guy B.
Guy A is playing at a much higher level than guy B.
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Payton was still pretty raw back then. Any guy who leads his team to 63 wins deserves some attention but the Sonics were pretty stacked.
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G P is one of my favorite players of all time,I think that he may have been number 4 in that race,hakeem pip barkley G P.
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Would you care to elaborate on the point your trying tomake Im not following you?:shrug:
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Pippen played at a very high level that year, I don't think Hakeem was in another stratosphere, he was a better player who shouldered the load and his team was more successful.
What sullies the argument is the asinine claims of some as to the importance of Pippen overall, and where he stands in the pantheon of greats. He was not robbed, there was no bias....all that crap dirties up the argument. You have one guy blaming all of the postseason failures on Hue Hollins...which means you didn't watch the series.
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I agree with you mister heffna on that,I am just gonna stickwith my MVP stance it was close,and all pip barkley hakeem robinson and GP were in the running
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Well here's how I would vote if I had 10 names to cast a ballot for in the 1994 MVP race:
my 1st-place vote: Hakeem Olajuwon (and it's a no-brainer)
my 2nd-place vote: David Robinson
my 3rd-place vote: Charles Barkley
my 4th-place vote: Shaquille O'Neal
my 5th-place vote: Scottie Pippen
rounding out the top 10:
Gary Payton
Karl Malone
Patrick Ewing
John Stockton
Kevin Willis
And, yep. People really need to understand the games before they cast judgment.
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Wow......................very interesting
Myself I would go
1-pippen or hakeem
2-pippen or hakeem
3-barkley
wait a minute.....................kevin willis?
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Robinson and Barkley were easily more valuable to their respective teams than Pippen was to the Bulls.
And Kevin Willis was a monster back then. Shawn Kemp has a case to be made himself for the top 10 in value.
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Strongly disagree with you there buddy and that fact that kevin willis is even in this discussion makes me feel like this whole topic may prove futile from my standpoint,and with that I respect your opinion but highly disagree.
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I don't know what's to disagree with but that's your prerogative, I guess...
Kevin Willis averaged something ridiculous like 19 points and 12 rebounds that season. And I'm pretty sure the Hawks finished with a better record than the Bulls.
Based on that alone, a lot of people would have put him ahead of Scottie. Not me.
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I can't agree with that. Phoenix regressed that year and Robinson had as strong a case as anyone outside of Hakeem...
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The Suns needed Barkley's scoring, passing, and rebounding ability even more than ever that season. As a team, they did regress, which is a lot of the reason Chuck didn't get back-to-back MVPs. But after Tom Chambers and Dumas left the roster, they became even more dependent on Charles.
And I actually think Robinson had about as good of a supporting cast as Hakeem did. Dale Ellis, Dennis Rodman, Vinny Del Negro, Willie Anderson, with Antoine Carr's energy off the bench... yet they finished 2 games under Houston.
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Phoenix wasn't too shabby as a team either. They did go up on Houston 3-1 after all...
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Well that was a stacked team...but they just couldn't do what they did the year before.
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Robinson had a better supporting cast...mainly Rodman. No HOFers on Hakeem's team that year.
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