1994 Bulls vs 2011 Bulls in 7 game series

[eternityw]

Pip was the heartbeat of the bulls team and the engine that made them go in 94...even on the other bulls teams with jordan around......This was also proven again in the 98 season when pippen was on th injured list...During that time, the bulls struggled to win half there games...When Pippen returned to the line up, it fueled the team to go on multiple long winning streaks...You see, without Pip they were an average team..

Yes, bulls lost a lot of games in the beginnig of 98 season, mj couldn't won the games by himself, other bulls players was average level. and in 98 finals game 4 pip had 5 triples that helped bulls to win, 97 finals game 3 - he had 7 triples but not enough to win

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Pip was the heartbeat of the bulls team and the engine that made them go in 94...even on the other bulls teams with jordan around......This was also proven again in the 98 season when pippen was on th injured list...During that time, the bulls struggled to win half there games...When Pippen returned to the line up, it fueled the team to go on multiple long winning streaks...You see, without Pip they were an average team..

Without Hakeem, the Rockets probably miss the playoffs altogether and are definitely sub-500.

No one is arguing and saying Pippen wasn't a great player and valuable.

But Hakeem, among others were MUCH better and a ton more valuable.

In '95, no Hakeem the entire season and that team is well-below .500 and probably have one of the worst records in the league. Instead, they win a title.

The Bulls managed to play plus-.500 ball through 35 games in 1998 with no Pippen at all.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

he was in the convo. I see like this. It took career years from olajuwan and robinson to deny pippen. And even still, by your own admission, the mvp olajuwan won was more of a lifetime achievement award.

That statement is very misleading and based in ignorance due to lack of knowledge of the 1994 Houston Rockets.

 

[eternityw]

As good as Pippen was, Hakeem was much

much

much

much

much

better.

All those little "intangibles" you watched (while not watching the Rockets) that Pippen had... the DREAM had intangibles too.

Anybody who thinks Pippen was robbed of the MVP is

flat

out

wrong

By this year's standards, Hakeem deserved MVP.

By then's standards, Hakeem deserved MVP.

Better player.

Team more dependent upon him.

Better record.

Better team.

Again, hakeem could play only in 1,2 positions, pippen could play at least in 4 positions. no doubt hakeem is a great player, but pippen is better like mvp and hardworking on the court.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Again, hakeem could play only in 1,2 positions, pippen could play at least in 4 positions. no doubt hakeem is a great player, but pippen is better like mvp and hardworking on the court.

Hakeem could guard at least 4 positions easily. And he was the most skilled 7-footer the league as ever seen.

So he was versatile, as well.

And just because you are a versatile, doesn't mean you are a better player. Andrei Kirilenko is arguably even more versatile than Pippen was. Is HE better than Pippen?!

Rodman worked twice as hard as Pippen did. Grant worked a lot harder too. Were THEY better players??

 

[eternityw]

Hakeem could guard at least 4 positions easily. And he was the most skilled 7-footer the league as ever seen.

So he was versatile, as well.

And just because you are a versatile, doesn't mean you are a better player. Andrei Kirilenko is arguably even more versatile than Pippen was. Is HE better than Pippen?!

Rodman worked twice as hard as Pippen did. Grant worked a lot harder too. Were THEY better players??

i see you don't like bulls team and pippen as a player. no problem. or i am wrong?

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

i see you don't like bulls team and pippen as a player. no problem. or i am wrong?

So I say something that you cannot rebut and now I'm not a Bulls' fan even though Jordan and Pippen were my entire childhood.

Get the **** out of here with that garbage.

 

[houheffna]

I'm glad you wrote that friend..because I was just about to myself..Thank you for your good work on this thread....Doesn't it feel great to be one of the few and proud that knowthe truth???????Knowlege is power and we are blessed with logic and it pisses off the fools here..that's why they continue to argue with us until infinity..It doesn't matter what you or I say here, because there just isn't any hope when it comes to trying to convince natural born jagg offs...Its really sad...We must forgive them and hope that scientists keep working on finding the cure for ignorance..I just donated a large sum of cash bonds to there worthy cause...
:support:

The truth only exposes the idiocy of your argument...so you have to post meaningless youtube videos to deflect from the fact that you don't know what the hell you are talking about...carry on...

 

[eternityw]

So I say something that you cannot rebut and now I'm not a Bulls' fan even though Jordan and Pippen were my entire childhood.

Get the **** out of here with that garbage.

you are funny, read a couple of words and angry to yourself. take it easy it is only a conversation.
as i said pippen was the best player in 94 and bulls team also was great.
you can agree with this or not. i told you why i think that way, not only statistically, but style of play and responsibilty for a team success that pippen and phil jackson got in that year.

 

[houheffna]

How bout otis thorpe? And who the hell is jerry brembry? And I. Checked the resluts for the past like 5 mvps. And 94 compared was a lot tighter 1-3 than any of them.

Thorpe was a good player throughout his career, but he was not as important for that Rockets team as Deng was for the Bulls this past season.

Who is Brembry? Google him...

in 1994, 2 players received 90% of the first place votes. I think its safe to say everyone else lagged far behind.

 

[houheffna]

Pip was the heartbeat of the bulls team and the engine that made them go in 94...even on the other bulls teams with jordan around......This was also proven again in the 98 season when pippen was on th injured list...During that time, the bulls struggled to win half there games...When Pippen returned to the line up, it fueled the team to go on multiple long winning streaks...You see, without Pip they were an average team..

Who said Pippen wasn't an important part of the team...he wasn't as important as Jordan, as you seem to insinuate. That is just silly talk...and didn't the Bulls win 2/3 of their games before Scottie showed up that season...

By the way, Pippen REALLY pissed Jordan off that season...why? He put himself before the team. He purposely delayed the surgery he could have had that summer until the beginning of the season because he was angry with Krause. Supposedly one of the reasons Jordan quit in 1998...

 

[nwfisch]

My time as a troll has been fun

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

lulz at the notion that the '98 Bulls without Pippen were an "average team."

 

[woe]

the argument that year for mvp is much like the one this past year between deerick and dwight,dwiight could have just as easily gotten mvp and i woudnt have been mad,I think that year with pip and hakeem was similar

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

the argument that year for mvp is much like the one this past year between deerick and dwight,dwiight could have just as easily gotten mvp and i woudnt have been mad,I think that year with pip and hakeem was similar

It's not like that at all actually. Rose, Dwight, and Dirk were the only three names that could have deserved an MVP award last year.

And Olajuwon, Barkley, and David Robinson all deserved MVP over Pippen in '94.

 

[woe]

Not to throw fuel on the pippen argument but he did deserve to be in the running for that year.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Not to throw fuel on the pippen argument but he did deserve to be in the running for that year.

Anyone who leads a team to 55 wins is going to be considered. But the reason he didn't win was because cognitive thought prevailed.

 

[woe]

It was just like the argument is every year,the same questions,Is it MVP of the league,or MVP of the team,all the same questions personal biased towards certain players .(just like this site,it all boils down to guess what.....................A MATTER OF OPINION!!!

Isnt freedom great!!!

 

[eternityw]

It was just like the argument is every year,the same questions,Is it MVP of the league,or MVP of the team,all the same questions personal biased towards certain players .(just like this site,it all boils down to guess what.....................A MATTER OF OPINION!!!

Isnt freedom great!!!

i am talking about the same thing. thank you

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Opinions should be changed when they are based on ignorance.