1994 Bulls vs 2011 Bulls in 7 game series

[scottiepippen1994]

ok in this fantasy can i be yoda?

because im yoda...and i like sodas

YOUNG FOOL, ONLY NOW IN THE END, DO YOU UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!!!....you can be princess Lea and just obeya!!!!!...LOL my friend.....

 

[97Bulls]

I never said pippen wasnt clutch i never said he wasnt a great versatile player and defender....but dont tell me he was a better winner than jordan....the difference between pippen and jordan was that pippen was a great defensive player and versatile and a winner BUT his offense was good not great...jordan has the best offense of all time in an era where defense was distorted(and its not like jordan was inefficient..shot over 50% for his career...)AND was a fantastic defender and winner

but its really hard to judge pippen's overall greatness by one and half seasons one way or another really...

Im not saying pippen is on jordans level. I just take exception to people spouting stupid stuff like pippen wasn't clutch and couldn't lead a team to a championship. And use as their argument him not winning a championship with a team that nobody could've won with. I do think the league kinda blackballed him after sitting out that last play, its the only reason I can come up with as to why he didn't win the dpoy award in 95. He lead the league in defensive rating, and steals, and the buls that year had the second best ranked defense with guys like armsrtong, kukoc, krostwiak, blount, simpkins, kerr, myers and longley. THE SECOND RANKED DEFENSE. Along with that, he lead the bulls in every major category. Something that's only been done two other times. And to show how rare that is, there's only been 4 guys that have avg 34 ppg in a season or more. Just think you have a better chance of avg 34 or more ppg than doing what pippen did. And the other two guys to do it, garnett and cowens, are bigmen.

 

[97Bulls]

You da Man...When I retire, I will leave you in charge of my great empire...Keep doin atcha doin and check these fools...

Thanx bro. Im just sick of the disrespect pippen recieves. And by bulls fans no less.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Pippen wasn't a choke artist but the only game-winners he ever had came on fluke plays.

 

[97Bulls]

Pippen wasn't a choke artist but the only game-winners he ever had came on fluke plays.

When was he supposed to have that opportunity? Would you really go to him over jordan? I think he was screwed out of a legit chance when jackson drew up a play for kukoc. But he really didn't have many.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

When was he supposed to have that opportunity? Would you really go to him over jordan? I think he was screwed out of a legit chance when jackson drew up a play for kukoc. But he really didn't have many.

Phil obviously made the right choice. The shot went in and Kukoc is the perfect catch and shoot player. He's much taller and a much better shooter than Pippen was.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Thanx bro. Im just sick of the disrespect pippen recieves. And by bulls fans no less.

Saying Grant Hill's best seasons were better than Pippen's isn't disrespect though. It's truth.

 

[nwfisch]

Doesn't anyone think Pippen disrespected the Bulls when Pippen acted like a baby when a play wasn't drawn up for him?

Doesn't anyone think Pippen disrespected Michael Jordan when he compared Lebron James to Jordan after the Bulls lost to the Heat?

Doesn't anyone think Pippen disrespected Dennis Rodman and other teammates?

Pippen doesn't deserve respect.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

what? pippen deserves respect but i think people are overrating him on here

the thing that sets him apart from being a truly great player is that he was never a great offensive player...

even as the leader of his team he only averaged 22 PPG....not inefficient or anything but he isnt the guy who will drop 40 on you...yes his defense is fantastic...still..

 

[nwfisch]

I respect Pippen, and people should, but I agree with Code that too many are :fap: to Pippen. Especially Mrs. Pippen.

 

[houheffna]

Doesn't anyone think Pippen disrespected the Bulls when Pippen acted like a baby when a play wasn't drawn up for him?

Doesn't anyone think Pippen disrespected Michael Jordan when he compared Lebron James to Jordan after the Bulls lost to the Heat?

Doesn't anyone think Pippen disrespected Dennis Rodman and other teammates?

Pippen doesn't deserve respect.

Pippen definitely deserves respect. You just have fanboys who want to act like Pippen was top 10 in league history and he most certainly wasn't. If a person makes an accurate portrayal of Pippen's career, you look at the ups and downs. Its funny how people act as if Pippen would have won a championship as the leader and best player and pass it off as fact. There are better players than Pippen who had that chance and failed, but Pippen "the greatest SF ever" according to some, would have done it. Give me a damn break. Pippen showed that he could be shaky in a leadership role and he thrived as sidekick to Jordan. That was his role...sidekick.

And all of this crap about Pippen being hated on by Bulls fans is stupid. Bulls fans don't have to love any Bulls players. I know a lot of people who not only dislike Pippen, Kukoc, even Rose, but they dislike Jordan too. People are entitled to their opinions.

 

[97Bulls]

Saying Grant Hill's best seasons were better than Pippen's isn't disrespect though. It's truth.

Whatever bro. Pippen is ranked higher than hill get over it

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

if pippen had the offense of kobe or melo or durant..i'd say he'd be one of the greatest if not the greatest ever..but he never did..plus as hou said he wasnt the greatest leader

pippen is a 2nd option guy...he plays the best that way..the dynamic he had with jordan was perfect....

Edit:and seriously bringing up this hill shit again?

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Whatever bro. Pippen is ranked higher than hill get over it

Ranked according to what? Basketballreference.com?

If they were ranking seasons, Hill would have at least 2 seasons better than Pippen's best.

 

[97Bulls]

what? pippen deserves respect but i think people are overrating him on here

the thing that sets him apart from being a truly great player is that he was never a great offensive player...

even as the leader of his team he only averaged 22 PPG....not inefficient or anything but he isnt the guy who will drop 40 on you...yes his defense is fantastic...still..

Really? Magic johnson was great he not considered a great offensive player. Unless you count assists. How bout tim duncan? Bills russell? Dominque was a better score than pippen is he better than pippen? How bout chris mullin? Don't mistake styles with greatness.

 

[97Bulls]

if pippen had the offense of kobe or melo or durant..i'd say he'd be one of the greatest if not the greatest ever..but he never did..plus as hou said he wasnt the greatest leader

pippen is a 2nd option guy...he plays the best that way..the dynamic he had with jordan was perfect....

Edit:and seriously bringing up this hill shit again?

If your talking about kobe offense in addition then he'd be jordan. And again, durant, melo, havnt gone much further than pippen. And arguably with more talent. And definately more chances. And this is the difference. Im all about winning. And I know what it takes to win. When you try to say pippen isn't great cuz he wasn't a great scorer...... that's just really shallow.

 

[97Bulls]

Pippen definitely deserves respect. You just have fanboys who want to act like Pippen was top 10 in league history and he most certainly wasn't. If a person makes an accurate portrayal of Pippen's career, you look at the ups and downs. Its funny how people act as if Pippen would have won a championship as the leader and best player and pass it off as fact. There are better players than Pippen who had that chance and failed, but Pippen "the greatest SF ever" according to some, would have done it. Give me a damn break. Pippen showed that he could be shaky in a leadership role and he thrived as sidekick to Jordan. That was his role...sidekick.

And all of this crap about Pippen being hated on by Bulls fans is stupid. Bulls fans don't have to love any Bulls players. I know a lot of people who not only dislike Pippen, Kukoc, even Rose, but they dislike Jordan too. People are entitled to their opinions.

Who said he's top 10 or even could be top 10? I said I feel he could've lead a team to a championship had he had the same opportunities afforded other greats. I admit what he did in 94 in game 3 was atrocious. But im not gonna base his whole career off that one incident. Hell jordan assaulted steve kerr when he punched him. Wilt faked an injury to sit out of a playoff game he thought his sixers were about to loose. And when the sixers came back he wanted back in and his coach wouldn't allow him. Magic contracted hiv which in all honestly can only be contracted through an irresponsible act. Barkley had run ins with the law. I could go on and on. Pippen messed up but he's human, and its not like that was a reocurring theme. I think him playing with that bad back in the 98 finals game 6 more than makes up for what he did in 94. Cuz ifs not there, the bulls more than likely loose. Im sure you forgot he made two clutch baskets late in the 4th quarter. But he wasn't clutch.

 

[nwfisch]

Scottie Pippen 1994 said all those things.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

When was he supposed to have that opportunity? Would you really go to him over jordan? I think he was screwed out of a legit chance when jackson drew up a play for kukoc. But he really didn't have many.

Exactly, and Pippen was dealt a heavy load with the sudden retirement of jordan..What he accompoloshed that season was nothing less than amazing..All that pressure finally snapped in him at that moment which is what he said out of his own mouth in interviews..All that mattered was that we won the game anyway and he oveercame that trial and tribulation...He is a deserving hall of famer and definately a top ten player of all time in every way..there was not one single catagory that pippen didn't excel in..He also had more than a fair share of buzzer beaters in his career as well as gamechanging defense in crucial games at crucial times..So it baffles my mind that people, especially so called bulls fans actually have the gall to say that pippen was not a clutch performer..it makes my stomac turn and is very insulting...The real nba people that matter varified pippens importance to nba history when they put him in the hall of fame...So pippens greatness is officially fact and forever remembered by real basketvball people whether some idiot hater forum posters like it or not...

 

[nwfisch]

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Noone said Scottie Pippen shouldn't be in the HOF, I say he shouldn't be in the top 10 of all time.