2014 Chicago Cubs In-Season Discussion Thread

[CSF77]

the whole point is who gives a flying fuck how many hits he has as FT stated your ops + blows, ops blows, a very ehh OBP if you want to just look at that, his lack of power, his bad defense....i mean fuck, juan pierre had a lot of hits....who cares?


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Dew Castro is a proven major league player who hits major league pitching.

Baez is on the DL and before that made 3 errors and hit .154.

Baez at this point has proven to be a worse SS than Castro. 40 errors last year.

The reality here is Baez needs to hit AAA pitching to even get called up. As we saw with Brett Jackson's flop this is not a walk in the park. After that he has to adjust to the 3rd deck and major league pitching. As we saw with Rizzo in SD how that can go. And last year his hitting was subpar.

Even if he progresses he still has not proven he can handle SS. To put it simply his D blows.

So right now you stick with a sure thing vs a not sure thing. Even then Baez's projects anywhere on the diamond if it develops. The is still an if.

 

[FirstTimer]

That is why you are an idiot F/T

24 YO. So 12 years from the drop off age of 36.

Start of the year: 692 career hits.

3000 - 692 = 2308

So he would have to Avg 192 hits to make it to 3000 at 36.

But that is the age of 36.

His career BA is .283 Avg AB per year sense his first full year = 662
.283 * 662 = 187.346

I see it as as long he keeps his career pace and stays healthy he can hit 3k.

So again haters will hate huna?

LOL. I love how you just assume he'll play until the age of 36 and average 188 hits a season. How many SS's produce like that until the age of 36?

Also have to love the assumed consistency of a player who has been anything but consistent during his MLB career. I mean sure let's assume another decade and a half of consistent performance out of an inconsistent player to put him near 3000 hits!

/Cubs logic.

 

[SilenceS]

The Facebook pages of Dews, Silence, and fisch would surely be interesting as well

Still trying to stalk me cupcake? Crack kills dude.

 

[nwfisch]

The Facebook pages of Dews, Silence, and fisch would surely be interesting as well

https://www.facebook.com/nwfisch?ref=tn_tnmn

Here's mine, I'm not afraid.

Coming from the guy who is here to talk baseball, this is humorous.

 

[SilenceS]

https://www.facebook.com/nwfisch?ref=tn_tnmn

Here's mine, I'm not afraid.

Lol, he may stomp you down behind the keyboard? Whatever the fuck that means. lol

 

[Boobaby1]

https://www.facebook.com/nwfisch?ref=tn_tnmn

Here's mine, I'm not afraid.

Coming from the guy who is here to talk baseball, this is humorous.

Since Blurricane has been old enough to be a Cubs fan, he has witnessed (4) playoff appearances. How bad can this guy really have it?

I am twice his age and have witnessed (5).

It's no wonder why some of the youth have the patience that they do since the Cubs average going to the playoffs 1 in every 3 to 4 years. With old guys like me, it averages out to be 1 in every 10.

 

[CSF77]

LOL. I love how you just assume he'll play until the age of 36 and average 188 hits a season. How many SS's produce like that until the age of 36?

Also have to love the assumed consistency of a player who has been anything but consistent during his MLB career. I mean sure let's assume another decade and a half of consistent performance out of an inconsistent player to put him near 3000 hits!

/Cubs logic.

I expect him to play until he is 40. or an avg of 144 hits per year to make it. Well below his career worst 163 hit year.

Keep on pushing your hate sport.

 

[brett05]

I expect him to play until he is 40. or an avg of 144 hits per year to make it. Well below his career worst 163 hit year.

How many post/pre steroid hitters are putting up 144 hits ages 35+?

 

[brett05]

In the past 40 years there have been 246 times a player 35+ has gotten at least 144 hits in a season.

Here's the list:

Spoiler

Season Name H
1982 Al Bumbry 147
1974 Al Kaline 146
1982 Al Oliver 204
1983 Al Oliver 184
2013 Alfonso Soriano 148
2012 Alfonso Soriano 147
1990 Andre Dawson 164
1991 Andre Dawson 153
1992 Andre Dawson 150
1997 Andres Galarraga 191
1996 Andres Galarraga 190
1998 Andres Galarraga 169
2000 Andres Galarraga 149
2000 B.J. Surhoff 157
2001 Barry Bonds 156
2002 Barry Bonds 149
2000 Barry Bonds 147
1999 Barry Larkin 171
2004 Bernie Williams 147
1985 Bill Buckner 201
1986 Bill Buckner 168
1973 Billy Williams 166
2009 Bobby Abreu 165
2010 Bobby Abreu 146
1999 Brady Anderson 159
2004 Bret Boone 149
1993 Brett Butler 181
1992 Brett Butler 171
1995 Brett Butler 154
1989 Brian Downing 154
1987 Brian Downing 154
2008 Brian Giles 171
2006 Brian Giles 159
1974 Brooks Robinson 159
1987 Buddy Bell 148
1996 Cal Ripken 178
1997 Cal Ripken 166
1998 Cal Ripken 163
1977 Carl Yastrzemski 165
1975 Carl Yastrzemski 146
1976 Carl Yastrzemski 146
1978 Carl Yastrzemski 145
2013 Carlos Beltran 164
2012 Carlos Beltran 147
2008 Carlos Delgado 162
2011 Carlos Lee 161
2012 Carlos Lee 145
1985 Cecil Cooper 185
1996 Chili Davis 155
2007 Chipper Jones 173
2008 Chipper Jones 160
1974 Cookie Rojas 147
2001 Craig Biggio 180
2004 Craig Biggio 178
2003 Craig Biggio 166
2005 Craig Biggio 156
2002 Craig Biggio 146
1999 Dante Bichette 177
2000 Dante Bichette 169
1983 Darrell Evans 145
1984 Dave Kingman 147
1990 Dave Parker 176
1986 Dave Parker 174
1987 Dave Parker 149
1989 Dave Parker 146
1988 Dave Winfield 180
1992 Dave Winfield 169
1987 Dave Winfield 158
1991 Dave Winfield 149
1993 Dave Winfield 148
2011 David Ortiz 162
2013 David Ortiz 160
2012 Derek Jeter 216
2009 Derek Jeter 212
2010 Derek Jeter 179
2011 Derek Jeter 162
1998 Devon White 157
1987 Dwight Evans 165
1988 Dwight Evans 164
1989 Dwight Evans 148
1993 Eddie Murray 174
1991 Eddie Murray 150
1996 Eddie Murray 147
1992 Eddie Murray 144
2000 Edgar Martinez 180
1998 Edgar Martinez 180
1999 Edgar Martinez 169
2003 Edgar Martinez 146
2001 Edgar Martinez 144
2002 Ellis Burks 156
1998 Eric Davis 148
2007 Frank Thomas 147
2003 Frank Thomas 146
1986 Frank White 154
1999 Fred McGriff 164
2001 Fred McGriff 157
2000 Fred McGriff 157
2008 Garret Anderson 163
2005 Gary Sheffield 170
2004 Gary Sheffield 166
1988 George Brett 180
1990 George Brett 179
1992 George Brett 169
1993 George Brett 149
1984 George Foster 149
1982 Hal McRae 189
1983 Hal McRae 183
1996 Harold Baines 154
2009 Ichiro Suzuki 225
2010 Ichiro Suzuki 214
2011 Ichiro Suzuki 184
2012 Ichiro Suzuki 178
2003 Jeff Bagwell 168
2004 Jeff Bagwell 152
2001 Jeff Conine 163
2003 Jeff Conine 163
2004 Jeff Conine 146
2005 Jeff Kent 160
2004 Jeff Kent 156
2003 Jeff Kent 150
2007 Jeff Kent 149
2005 Jeromy Burnitz 156
2004 Jeromy Burnitz 153
1991 Jim Gantner 149
1988 Jim Gantner 149
1996 Joe Carter 158
2005 Joe Randa 153
2009 Johnny Damon 155
2011 Johnny Damon 152
2010 Johnny Damon 146
2007 Jorge Posada 171
1983 Jose Cruz 189
1984 Jose Cruz 187
1985 Jose Cruz 163
1986 Ken Griffey 150
2005 Ken Griffey Jr. 148
2007 Ken Griffey Jr. 146
2003 Kenny Lofton 162
2007 Kenny Lofton 145
1995 Kirby Puckett 169
2011 Lance Berkman 147
2002 Larry Walker 161
1984 Lee Lacy 152
1985 Lee Lacy 144
1974 Lou Brock 194
1975 Lou Brock 163
1976 Lou Brock 150
2003 Luis Gonzalez 176
2006 Luis Gonzalez 159
2005 Luis Gonzalez 157
2009 Magglio Ordonez 144
2008 Manny Ramirez 183
2012 Marco Scutaro 190
2013 Marco Scutaro 145
1999 Mark Grace 183
2006 Mark Grudzielanek 163
2005 Mark Grudzielanek 155
1999 Mark McGwire 145
2013 Marlon Byrd 155
2003 Marquis Grissom 176
2004 Marquis Grissom 157
2008 Melvin Mora 146
2012 Michael Young 169
2013 Michael Young 145
2009 Miguel Tejada 199
2010 Miguel Tejada 171
1986 Mike Easler 148
1986 Mike Schmidt 160
1987 Mike Schmidt 153
1985 Mike Schmidt 152
2004 Moises Alou 176
2003 Moises Alou 158
2006 Omar Vizquel 171
2004 Omar Vizquel 165
2002 Omar Vizquel 160
2005 Omar Vizquel 154
1973 Orlando Cepeda 159
1995 Otis Nixon 174
1997 Otis Nixon 153
1993 Ozzie Smith 157
1991 Ozzie Smith 157
1992 Ozzie Smith 153
2011 Paul Konerko 163
2012 Paul Konerko 159
1996 Paul Molitor 225
1993 Paul Molitor 211
1992 Paul Molitor 195
1997 Paul Molitor 164
1994 Paul Molitor 155
1998 Paul O'Neill 191
1999 Paul O'Neill 170
2000 Paul O'Neill 160
1976 Pete Rose 215
1979 Pete Rose 208
1977 Pete Rose 204
1978 Pete Rose 198
1980 Pete Rose 185
1982 Pete Rose 172
2001 Rafael Palmeiro 164
2000 Rafael Palmeiro 163
2002 Rafael Palmeiro 149
2003 Rafael Palmeiro 146
1999 Randy Velarde 200
2008 Raul Ibanez 186
2007 Raul Ibanez 167
2010 Raul Ibanez 154
1982 Reggie Jackson 146
1976 Rico Carty 171
1978 Rico Carty 149
1992 Robin Yount 147
1982 Rod Carew 167
1983 Rod Carew 160
1983 Ron Cey 160
2004 Steve Finley 170
2000 Steve Finley 151
2003 Steve Finley 148
2002 Steve Finley 145
1985 Steve Garvey 184
1984 Steve Garvey 175
1985 Ted Simmons 144
2009 Todd Helton 177
1974 Tommy Davis 181
1999 Tony Fernandez 159
1998 Tony Fernandez 156
1997 Tony Gwynn 220
1995 Tony Gwynn 197
1998 Tony Gwynn 148
1980 Tony Perez 161
1978 Tony Perez 158
1977 Tony Perez 158
1996 Tony Phillips 161
1997 Tony Phillips 147
2013 Torii Hunter 184
2012 Torii Hunter 167
2011 Torii Hunter 152
2004 Vinny Castilla 158
2003 Vinny Castilla 150
2010 Vladimir Guerrero 178
2011 Vladimir Guerrero 163
1993 Wade Boggs 169
1996 Wade Boggs 156
1995 Wade Boggs 149
1997 Wally Joyner 149
1975 Willie Davis 144
1979 Willie Horton 180

It does not factor out the steroid era

 

[chibears55]

In the past 40 years there have been 246 times a player 35+ has gotten at least 144 hits in a season.

Here's the list:

Spoiler

SeasonNameH
1982Al Bumbry147
1974Al Kaline146
1982Al Oliver204
1983Al Oliver184
2013Alfonso Soriano148
2012Alfonso Soriano147
1990Andre Dawson164
1991Andre Dawson153
1992Andre Dawson150
1997Andres Galarraga191
1996Andres Galarraga190
1998Andres Galarraga169
2000Andres Galarraga149
2000B.J. Surhoff157
2001Barry Bonds156
2002Barry Bonds149
2000Barry Bonds147
1999Barry Larkin171
2004Bernie Williams147
1985Bill Buckner201
1986Bill Buckner168
1973Billy Williams166
2009Bobby Abreu165
2010Bobby Abreu146
1999Brady Anderson159
2004Bret Boone149
1993Brett Butler181
1992Brett Butler171
1995Brett Butler154
1989Brian Downing154
1987Brian Downing154
2008Brian Giles171
2006Brian Giles159
1974Brooks Robinson159
1987Buddy Bell148
1996Cal Ripken178
1997Cal Ripken166
1998Cal Ripken163
1977Carl Yastrzemski165
1975Carl Yastrzemski146
1976Carl Yastrzemski146
1978Carl Yastrzemski145
2013Carlos Beltran164
2012Carlos Beltran147
2008Carlos Delgado162
2011Carlos Lee161
2012Carlos Lee145
1985Cecil Cooper185
1996Chili Davis155
2007Chipper Jones173
2008Chipper Jones160
1974Cookie Rojas147
2001Craig Biggio180
2004Craig Biggio178
2003Craig Biggio166
2005Craig Biggio156
2002Craig Biggio146
1999Dante Bichette177
2000Dante Bichette169
1983Darrell Evans145
1984Dave Kingman147
1990Dave Parker176
1986Dave Parker174
1987Dave Parker149
1989Dave Parker146
1988Dave Winfield180
1992Dave Winfield169
1987Dave Winfield158
1991Dave Winfield149
1993Dave Winfield148
2011David Ortiz162
2013David Ortiz160
2012Derek Jeter216
2009Derek Jeter212
2010Derek Jeter179
2011Derek Jeter162
1998Devon White157
1987Dwight Evans165
1988Dwight Evans164
1989Dwight Evans148
1993Eddie Murray174
1991Eddie Murray150
1996Eddie Murray147
1992Eddie Murray144
2000Edgar Martinez180
1998Edgar Martinez180
1999Edgar Martinez169
2003Edgar Martinez146
2001Edgar Martinez144
2002Ellis Burks156
1998Eric Davis148
2007Frank Thomas147
2003Frank Thomas146
1986Frank White154
1999Fred McGriff164
2001Fred McGriff157
2000Fred McGriff157
2008Garret Anderson163
2005Gary Sheffield170
2004Gary Sheffield166
1988George Brett180
1990George Brett179
1992George Brett169
1993George Brett149
1984George Foster149
1982Hal McRae189
1983Hal McRae183
1996Harold Baines154
2009Ichiro Suzuki225
2010Ichiro Suzuki214
2011Ichiro Suzuki184
2012Ichiro Suzuki178
2003Jeff Bagwell168
2004Jeff Bagwell152
2001Jeff Conine163
2003Jeff Conine163
2004Jeff Conine146
2005Jeff Kent160
2004Jeff Kent156
2003Jeff Kent150
2007Jeff Kent149
2005Jeromy Burnitz156
2004Jeromy Burnitz153
1991Jim Gantner149
1988Jim Gantner149
1996Joe Carter158
2005Joe Randa153
2009Johnny Damon155
2011Johnny Damon152
2010Johnny Damon146
2007Jorge Posada171
1983Jose Cruz189
1984Jose Cruz187
1985Jose Cruz163
1986Ken Griffey150
2005Ken Griffey Jr.148
2007Ken Griffey Jr.146
2003Kenny Lofton162
2007Kenny Lofton145
1995Kirby Puckett169
2011Lance Berkman147
2002Larry Walker161
1984Lee Lacy152
1985Lee Lacy144
1974Lou Brock194
1975Lou Brock163
1976Lou Brock150
2003Luis Gonzalez176
2006Luis Gonzalez159
2005Luis Gonzalez157
2009Magglio Ordonez144
2008Manny Ramirez183
2012Marco Scutaro190
2013Marco Scutaro145
1999Mark Grace183
2006Mark Grudzielanek163
2005Mark Grudzielanek155
1999Mark McGwire145
2013Marlon Byrd155
2003Marquis Grissom176
2004Marquis Grissom157
2008Melvin Mora146
2012Michael Young169
2013Michael Young145
2009Miguel Tejada199
2010Miguel Tejada171
1986Mike Easler148
1986Mike Schmidt160
1987Mike Schmidt153
1985Mike Schmidt152
2004Moises Alou176
2003Moises Alou158
2006Omar Vizquel171
2004Omar Vizquel165
2002Omar Vizquel160
2005Omar Vizquel154
1973Orlando Cepeda159
1995Otis Nixon174
1997Otis Nixon153
1993Ozzie Smith157
1991Ozzie Smith157
1992Ozzie Smith153
2011Paul Konerko163
2012Paul Konerko159
1996Paul Molitor225
1993Paul Molitor211
1992Paul Molitor195
1997Paul Molitor164
1994Paul Molitor155
1998Paul O'Neill191
1999Paul O'Neill170
2000Paul O'Neill160
1976Pete Rose215
1979Pete Rose208
1977Pete Rose204
1978Pete Rose198
1980Pete Rose185
1982Pete Rose172
2001Rafael Palmeiro164
2000Rafael Palmeiro163
2002Rafael Palmeiro149
2003Rafael Palmeiro146
1999Randy Velarde200
2008Raul Ibanez186
2007Raul Ibanez167
2010Raul Ibanez154
1982Reggie Jackson146
1976Rico Carty171
1978Rico Carty149
1992Robin Yount147
1982Rod Carew167
1983Rod Carew160
1983Ron Cey160
2004Steve Finley170
2000Steve Finley151
2003Steve Finley148
2002Steve Finley145
1985Steve Garvey184
1984Steve Garvey175
1985Ted Simmons144
2009Todd Helton177
1974Tommy Davis181
1999Tony Fernandez159
1998Tony Fernandez156
1997Tony Gwynn220
1995Tony Gwynn197
1998Tony Gwynn148
1980Tony Perez161
1978Tony Perez158
1977Tony Perez158
1996Tony Phillips161
1997Tony Phillips147
2013Torii Hunter184
2012Torii Hunter167
2011Torii Hunter152
2004Vinny Castilla158
2003Vinny Castilla150
2010Vladimir Guerrero178
2011Vladimir Guerrero163
1993Wade Boggs169
1996Wade Boggs156
1995Wade Boggs149
1997Wally Joyner149
1975Willie Davis144
1979Willie Horton180

It does not factor out the steroid era

So at least 6 per yr. Getting at least 144 hits..
That actually pretty good , considering there not many every day players over 35.

 

[SilenceS]

In the past 40 years there have been 246 times a player 35+ has gotten at least 144 hits in a season.

Here's the list:

Spoiler

Season Name H
1982 Al Bumbry 147
1974 Al Kaline 146
1982 Al Oliver 204
1983 Al Oliver 184
2013 Alfonso Soriano 148
2012 Alfonso Soriano 147
1990 Andre Dawson 164
1991 Andre Dawson 153
1992 Andre Dawson 150
1997 Andres Galarraga 191
1996 Andres Galarraga 190
1998 Andres Galarraga 169
2000 Andres Galarraga 149
2000 B.J. Surhoff 157
2001 Barry Bonds 156
2002 Barry Bonds 149
2000 Barry Bonds 147
1999 Barry Larkin 171
2004 Bernie Williams 147
1985 Bill Buckner 201
1986 Bill Buckner 168
1973 Billy Williams 166
2009 Bobby Abreu 165
2010 Bobby Abreu 146
1999 Brady Anderson 159
2004 Bret Boone 149
1993 Brett Butler 181
1992 Brett Butler 171
1995 Brett Butler 154
1989 Brian Downing 154
1987 Brian Downing 154
2008 Brian Giles 171
2006 Brian Giles 159
1974 Brooks Robinson 159
1987 Buddy Bell 148
1996 Cal Ripken 178
1997 Cal Ripken 166
1998 Cal Ripken 163
1977 Carl Yastrzemski 165
1975 Carl Yastrzemski 146
1976 Carl Yastrzemski 146
1978 Carl Yastrzemski 145
2013 Carlos Beltran 164
2012 Carlos Beltran 147
2008 Carlos Delgado 162
2011 Carlos Lee 161
2012 Carlos Lee 145
1985 Cecil Cooper 185
1996 Chili Davis 155
2007 Chipper Jones 173
2008 Chipper Jones 160
1974 Cookie Rojas 147
2001 Craig Biggio 180
2004 Craig Biggio 178
2003 Craig Biggio 166
2005 Craig Biggio 156
2002 Craig Biggio 146
1999 Dante Bichette 177
2000 Dante Bichette 169
1983 Darrell Evans 145
1984 Dave Kingman 147
1990 Dave Parker 176
1986 Dave Parker 174
1987 Dave Parker 149
1989 Dave Parker 146
1988 Dave Winfield 180
1992 Dave Winfield 169
1987 Dave Winfield 158
1991 Dave Winfield 149
1993 Dave Winfield 148
2011 David Ortiz 162
2013 David Ortiz 160
2012 Derek Jeter 216
2009 Derek Jeter 212
2010 Derek Jeter 179
2011 Derek Jeter 162
1998 Devon White 157
1987 Dwight Evans 165
1988 Dwight Evans 164
1989 Dwight Evans 148
1993 Eddie Murray 174
1991 Eddie Murray 150
1996 Eddie Murray 147
1992 Eddie Murray 144
2000 Edgar Martinez 180
1998 Edgar Martinez 180
1999 Edgar Martinez 169
2003 Edgar Martinez 146
2001 Edgar Martinez 144
2002 Ellis Burks 156
1998 Eric Davis 148
2007 Frank Thomas 147
2003 Frank Thomas 146
1986 Frank White 154
1999 Fred McGriff 164
2001 Fred McGriff 157
2000 Fred McGriff 157
2008 Garret Anderson 163
2005 Gary Sheffield 170
2004 Gary Sheffield 166
1988 George Brett 180
1990 George Brett 179
1992 George Brett 169
1993 George Brett 149
1984 George Foster 149
1982 Hal McRae 189
1983 Hal McRae 183
1996 Harold Baines 154
2009 Ichiro Suzuki 225
2010 Ichiro Suzuki 214
2011 Ichiro Suzuki 184
2012 Ichiro Suzuki 178
2003 Jeff Bagwell 168
2004 Jeff Bagwell 152
2001 Jeff Conine 163
2003 Jeff Conine 163
2004 Jeff Conine 146
2005 Jeff Kent 160
2004 Jeff Kent 156
2003 Jeff Kent 150
2007 Jeff Kent 149
2005 Jeromy Burnitz 156
2004 Jeromy Burnitz 153
1991 Jim Gantner 149
1988 Jim Gantner 149
1996 Joe Carter 158
2005 Joe Randa 153
2009 Johnny Damon 155
2011 Johnny Damon 152
2010 Johnny Damon 146
2007 Jorge Posada 171
1983 Jose Cruz 189
1984 Jose Cruz 187
1985 Jose Cruz 163
1986 Ken Griffey 150
2005 Ken Griffey Jr. 148
2007 Ken Griffey Jr. 146
2003 Kenny Lofton 162
2007 Kenny Lofton 145
1995 Kirby Puckett 169
2011 Lance Berkman 147
2002 Larry Walker 161
1984 Lee Lacy 152
1985 Lee Lacy 144
1974 Lou Brock 194
1975 Lou Brock 163
1976 Lou Brock 150
2003 Luis Gonzalez 176
2006 Luis Gonzalez 159
2005 Luis Gonzalez 157
2009 Magglio Ordonez 144
2008 Manny Ramirez 183
2012 Marco Scutaro 190
2013 Marco Scutaro 145
1999 Mark Grace 183
2006 Mark Grudzielanek 163
2005 Mark Grudzielanek 155
1999 Mark McGwire 145
2013 Marlon Byrd 155
2003 Marquis Grissom 176
2004 Marquis Grissom 157
2008 Melvin Mora 146
2012 Michael Young 169
2013 Michael Young 145
2009 Miguel Tejada 199
2010 Miguel Tejada 171
1986 Mike Easler 148
1986 Mike Schmidt 160
1987 Mike Schmidt 153
1985 Mike Schmidt 152
2004 Moises Alou 176
2003 Moises Alou 158
2006 Omar Vizquel 171
2004 Omar Vizquel 165
2002 Omar Vizquel 160
2005 Omar Vizquel 154
1973 Orlando Cepeda 159
1995 Otis Nixon 174
1997 Otis Nixon 153
1993 Ozzie Smith 157
1991 Ozzie Smith 157
1992 Ozzie Smith 153
2011 Paul Konerko 163
2012 Paul Konerko 159
1996 Paul Molitor 225
1993 Paul Molitor 211
1992 Paul Molitor 195
1997 Paul Molitor 164
1994 Paul Molitor 155
1998 Paul O'Neill 191
1999 Paul O'Neill 170
2000 Paul O'Neill 160
1976 Pete Rose 215
1979 Pete Rose 208
1977 Pete Rose 204
1978 Pete Rose 198
1980 Pete Rose 185
1982 Pete Rose 172
2001 Rafael Palmeiro 164
2000 Rafael Palmeiro 163
2002 Rafael Palmeiro 149
2003 Rafael Palmeiro 146
1999 Randy Velarde 200
2008 Raul Ibanez 186
2007 Raul Ibanez 167
2010 Raul Ibanez 154
1982 Reggie Jackson 146
1976 Rico Carty 171
1978 Rico Carty 149
1992 Robin Yount 147
1982 Rod Carew 167
1983 Rod Carew 160
1983 Ron Cey 160
2004 Steve Finley 170
2000 Steve Finley 151
2003 Steve Finley 148
2002 Steve Finley 145
1985 Steve Garvey 184
1984 Steve Garvey 175
1985 Ted Simmons 144
2009 Todd Helton 177
1974 Tommy Davis 181
1999 Tony Fernandez 159
1998 Tony Fernandez 156
1997 Tony Gwynn 220
1995 Tony Gwynn 197
1998 Tony Gwynn 148
1980 Tony Perez 161
1978 Tony Perez 158
1977 Tony Perez 158
1996 Tony Phillips 161
1997 Tony Phillips 147
2013 Torii Hunter 184
2012 Torii Hunter 167
2011 Torii Hunter 152
2004 Vinny Castilla 158
2003 Vinny Castilla 150
2010 Vladimir Guerrero 178
2011 Vladimir Guerrero 163
1993 Wade Boggs 169
1996 Wade Boggs 156
1995 Wade Boggs 149
1997 Wally Joyner 149
1975 Willie Davis 144
1979 Willie Horton 180

It does not factor out the steroid era

The steroid era isnt over just changed.

 

[brett05]

The steroid era isnt over just changed.

I agree, but given the total drop in production it would seem the current drug isn't as effective in healing the body.

 

[brett05]

So at least 6 per yr. Getting at least 144 hits..
That actually pretty good , considering there not many every day players over 35.

Check the list out. It's more like one non-steroid/superstar that does it per year.

 

[HurricaneDij39]

https://www.facebook.com/nwfisch?ref=tn_tnmn

Here's mine, I'm not afraid.

Coming from the guy who is here to talk baseball, this is humorous.

Seeing that you're all feasting on the thread I've created for you, my job appears to have worked.

You clowns have been free to trash me at whatever cost so as far as I'm concerned I'm free to do the same. I just go where the trolls ain't, and for now, my act is mostly at CBS.

No pictures on your page, interesting.

 

[HurricaneDij39]

or realize that Mike Olt isn't that good?

I'll admit I was being a little overdramatic at this one. I was just a little surprised at how half-hearted Olt's postgame interview with Len Kasper was.

I still believe he has the ability to hit for power with a crummy average, but if Baez is indeed as good as advertised, Olt won't be long for the Cubs.

 

[DewsSox79]

Dew Castro is a proven major league player who hits major league pitching.

Baez is on the DL and before that made 3 errors and hit .154.

Baez at this point has proven to be a worse SS than Castro. 40 errors last year.

The reality here is Baez needs to hit AAA pitching to even get called up. As we saw with Brett Jackson's flop this is not a walk in the park. After that he has to adjust to the 3rd deck and major league pitching. As we saw with Rizzo in SD how that can go. And last year his hitting was subpar.

Even if he progresses he still has not proven he can handle SS. To put it simply his D blows.

So right now you stick with a sure thing vs a not sure thing. Even then Baez's projects anywhere on the diamond if it develops. The is still an if.

ok. miscommunication. yes castro is much more proven than baez. that i agree with you on, hell baez hasnt proved shit. my point is i think castro is a bit overrated by cubs fans. sorry i was skimming from my phone and just looking at certain posts.


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[SilenceS]

ok. miscommunication. yes castro is much more proven than baez. that i agree with you on, hell baez hasnt proved shit. my point is i think castro is a bit overrated by cubs fans. sorry i was skimming from my phone and just looking at certain posts.


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I find the opposite. Most say he is garbage. Both have agendas

 

[DewsSox79]

I find the opposite. Most say he is garbage. Both have agendas

which player are u referring to in regards to "most say he is garbage"


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[SilenceS]

which player are u referring to in regards to "most say he is garbage"


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Castro, I have read way more posters say he sucks from multiple message boards over him being just overated.

 

[CSF77]

Castro, I have read way more posters say he sucks from multiple message boards over him being just overated.

He is not perfect for sure. But he hits and can make some flashy plays at short. He does make errors and he will avg 35 BB in 700 PA.

As long as he can keep his errors around 20 and put up a .280+ BA he gives value to the team. If he is hitting .270 or lower than he is not.

They are already giving playing time to Barney who is a brick at the plate. They can not afford to have 2.

But so far this year he seems to be going back to his pre-Dale production. If he sustains it it is up to him to do so. Not us making claims either way.

Pre-Dale:
2010: .300/.347/.408 29 BB
2011: .307/.341/.432 35 BB

Dale years where they tried to make him less aggressive to increase BB
2012: .283/.323/.430 36 BB
2013: .245/.284/.347 30 BB

Ya that was a fail and was a big reason why Dale got shit canned.

After Theo letting him go back to his old ways
2014: .300/.327/.460 2 BB

See a trend here? He is an aggressive hitter. He walks little but he makes plenty of contact. He is not perfect but he is good at what he does. They tried to make him something he was not and his production took a nose dive.