2014 DRAFT CHAT

[Captain Obvious]

Hammel: 2.53 ERA 0.88 WHIP 8.05 SO/9 1.83 BB/9
Shark: 2.54 ERA 1.13 WHIP 7.94 SO/9 2.54 BB/9

Pretty much across the board. For all of the talk about retaining Shark (who came into this year as a under performer he is getting a whole lot of love vs a player who under performed and is doing better and peeps are calling him a 1 hit wonder....pretty prejudiced IMO.

There's no getting through to you is there? BABIP makes no sense to you does it?

Okay, how much should we give Hammel? 5 years 100MM?

 

[nwfisch]

Carrie Muskat ‏@CarrieMuskat 3m #Cubs have reportedly reached agreement with No. 1 Draft pick Kyle Schwarber on $3.125 million

Saved $700K

:fap:

 

[nwfisch]

Actually....its $1.5M savings.

Start construction on the jumbotron!

 

[beckdawg]

Actually....its $1.5M savings.

Start construction on the jumbotron!

Draft slot money is worth a heck of a lot more than face value considering it's limited and you have to have it to sign your draft picks. $1.5 mil is roughly equivalent to the slot for the 37th pick. So in essence, it allows them to offer Cease his slot value(~$270k) + $1.5 mil + 5% over before you hit penalties. Assuming they think he's worth the money, its roughly the same as getting another top 30 draft pick by saving.

 

[2323]

Actually....its $1.5M savings.

Start construction on the jumbotron!

Saving 1.5M is" fundamentally important to get us to the next level as an organization. "

 

[nwfisch]

Draft slot money is worth a heck of a lot more than face value considering it's limited and you have to have it to sign your draft picks. $1.5 mil is roughly equivalent to the slot for the 37th pick. So in essence, it allows them to offer Cease his slot value(~$270k) + $1.5 mil + 5% over before you hit penalties. Assuming they think he's worth the money, its roughly the same as getting another top 30 draft pick by saving.

But I thought the only picks that succeed in the MLB draft are top first rounders?

So signing the 37th overall pick is irrelevant in the scheme of things, no?

 

[chibears55]

But I thought the only picks that succeed in the MLB draft are top first rounders?

So signing the 37th overall pick is irrelevant in the scheme of things, no?

I believe the ones who thought that are no longer posting here. ..

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I527 using Tapatalk

 

[theberserkfury]

Saving 1.5M is" fundamentally important to get us to the next level as an organization. "

You know they're gonna use that 1.5M to sign more picks, right...?

 

[2323]

You know they're gonna use that 1.5M to sign more picks, right...?

1.5 million bottles of beer in the wall, 1.5 million bottles of beer! Take one down, pass it around! 1.4 million bottles of beer...

 

[beckdawg]

But I thought the only picks that succeed in the MLB draft are top first rounders?

So signing the 37th overall pick is irrelevant in the scheme of things, no?

Cease was ranked in the top 15 picks prior to hurting his elbow IIRC. As for the point you're getting at, I care less about the position you draft and more about the money that position gives you. The 4th pick is a $4,621,200 slot. Washington finished just outside the playoffs and got the 18th pick worth $2,145,600. Their entire draft slot money is $5,275,700 or roughly ~$800k more than just the #4 pick by itself.

Simply put, there's often not many teams that can even go after prep pitchers with strong college commitments because that's far less money in the second half of the draft. For example, Rodon was said to be asking for $6 mil and the sox have $5,721,500 in slot money for the #3 pick. You can go 5% over without penalties which basically will allow the sox to sign him around $6 mil if they so choose but there's not much if any left over to go after an over slot player later. The 44th pick drops off pretty heavily to $1,282,700. So while you could do an under slot in the second and save some money, even if they saved $400k that's not really getting you that far toward signing a prep player out of a strong commitment. In the case of the Cease, no one was going to give a prep pitcher a top 15 pick when he has an elbow injury. And because of the way slot money works few teams could afford to draft him later and still have enough to convince him out of a college commitment.

The MLB draft has always been some what atypical in that the most "talented" players didn't go in order of talent. It's been teams that had flexibility with money that often were able to score talent later. However the slot system has changed who the teams with "money" are.

 

[theberserkfury]

Schwarber's gonna be with Boise for Friday's opener...

 

[beckdawg]

In draft news, the Cubs signed 11th round pick, RHP Jordan Brink.
The Cubs also signed i3B Kevonte Mitchell
Also signed are 20th round SS Alex Thomasovich (link) and 25th round catcher Tyler Pearson (per his Twitter profile). According to the Chicago Cubs Draft Tracker website, the Cubs have also signed 12th rd RHP Tanner Griggs, 15th Rd SS Jason Vosler, and 27th round CF Calvin Graves.

Looks pretty promising so far that they can sign most of their picks. So far, the only one who appears like they might be a tough sign is Isiah Gilliam.

 

[theberserkfury]

Looks pretty promising so far that they can sign most of their picks. So far, the only one who appears like they might be a tough sign is Isiah Gilliam.

You're confident that Sands and Cease will sign?

 

[beckdawg]

You're confident that Sands and Cease will sign?

Sands yes. Not sure about Cease. I probably could have worded what I said better though. What I should have said was there's no indication one way or another on a lot of the lower round picks. So while they may not sign, at the moment there's no reason to think they wont. In the case of Gilliam, Hoyer(think it was him) mentioned it might be hard to sign him.

As for Sands

Teddy Cahill
‏@tedcahill
LHP Carson Sands, the Cubs fourth round pick, tells me he's "really looking forward" to signing. #mlbdraft

Sands was also quoted saying this about his FSU coach.

"He said he supported me and was happy for me and told me good luck. I'm always going to be a 'Nole, so it's good," Sands said of his conversation with Martin Jr. "It really just came down to signability and what I wanted."

While it doesn't appear to be a foregone conclusion, talk like that makes it seem like they are at least close enough to consider it a stong chance.

 

[beckdawg]

Per his Twitter account, LHP Justin Steele has signed with the Cubs (h/t David L.). His profile now reads,

One more down.

 

[dabynsky]

You're confident that Sands and Cease will sign?

The people who follow this stuff closely seem to think the Cubs will sign their first 21 or 22 picks. Gilliam is the first guy who seems to be leaning towards not signing. With the savings the Cubs have/will get on the first 3 picks and probably the last three picks I am pretty sure they will land Cease and the whole of the first 10.

 

[nwfisch]

Sigh....:fap:

 

[dabynsky]

Sigh....:fap:

Seriously fisch I get that you don't want to care about this, but this matters to all organizations in baseball. With the way the game's economic structure it matters whether you spend like the Dodgers/Yankees or the Marlins (it merely changes the amount it matters). Sure more people pay attention now due to the deficiencies of the major league roster, but do we have to go through with this every single thread here?

 

[nwfisch]

:nope:

 

[theberserkfury]

Schwarber grounded out in his first AB... #bust