2014 Jay Cutler Discussion Thread

[Nick80]

That one makes more sense and goes to what was expected. It still allows you to cut bait after 3 years if you have a young QB on his 1st deal in the wings.

Yup, so I would take a punt that the Bears will look to select a QB in the next two drafts. <--- Going out on a limb.

 

[run and shoot]

Party-boy Leinart isn't worth mentioning. McNabb was great in his day but piss poor in the post-season. Here's hoping Cutler proves him wrong by bringing the Lombardi trophy home to Chicago.

you call getting his team to 5 NFCC with crap wr's....... piss poor

 

[FirstTimer]

Cutler hasn't done enough to earn what is essentially a three year deal?

Has he?

 

[ijustposthere]

you call getting his team to 5 NFCC with crap wr's....... piss poor

He did it all himself. The Philadelphia McNabbs.

 

[run and shoot]

McNabb had mostly poor wr players like Pinkston or Mitchell who never flourished. Only TO was someone that actually opened the passing game for him.

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If McNabb had our wr's he makes it to the SB several times

 

[ijustposthere]

If McNabb had our wr's he makes it to the SB several times

Or, more likely, once.

 

[run and shoot]

He did it all himself. The Philadelphia McNabbs.

go back and read what I was responding too.:angryfinger:

 

[BIGGIEsmalls 23]

Again, show me another franchise QB with a deal tied to their coaches contract?

I doubt that this board has ever deeply analyzed another team's QB contract like we're doing here with Cutler's. That's not a knock on the board, it's just a realization that this is a Bears board that focuses on Bears related issues.

This to me feels more like let's roll with Jay right to give us some time to groom a young QB to replace him. If he plays well then fine but if not, they can cut him with absolutely no salary cap hit.

I disagree.

If Emery had that mindset, he would have simply removed Cutler & signed McCown to a 2 or 3 year deal.

 

[MrOuija]

50m guaranteed:smh:

I know, it's crazy. But I'm in offseason mode already and trying to look at the positives.

 

[run and shoot]

Too late to read through 50+ pages, but smart move by the Bears. The offense is sure to be good for the next few years barring injuries, if I was a first time HC I would take Jay over some unknown mid to low round rookie every time. Why risk having to rebuild your offense or drafting a headcase by mistake when you already know that Jay and the Bears offensive staff work well together?

Smart move and the right decision for a chance to win NOW.

...... a chance to win NOW..

Can somebody explain whats wrong with this picture.:smh:

 

[run and shoot]

I know, it's crazy. But I'm in offseason mode already and trying to look at the positives.

.....well I'm still trying to get where your are. Unfortunately, I'm still in the "Michael Spinks state after Mike Tyson dropped him a few seconds into in 1st round" state.


The most I give him is the fran-tag. Yeah, I do hope the Bear lawyers put something in the contract where we can release his ass, if he continues playing inconsistently. I hope we were smart enuff to insert plenty of performance clauses in his contract.

 

[MrOuija]

.....well I'm still trying to get where your are. Unfortunately, I still in the "Michael Spinks state after Mike Tyson dropped a few seconds into in 1st round" state.


The most I give him is the fran-tag. Yeah, I do hope the Bear lawyers put something in the contract where we can release his ass, if he continues playing inconsistently.

Same here, but what's done is done. The way I understand it, this contract is only toxic during year 1 when we have the most cap space.

In year 2 and 3 it's slightly more than he was getting in 2013. After year 3 he can be cut with no repercussions.

So this years FA will be impacted, after that not so much.

 

[Myk]

Cut it out with the almost picks bullshit. Every qb has those. Fuck mccown had three alone in the Dallas gane. Stupid ass "stat".

And that would be how you tell the difference between someone with a different opinion and a troll.
When they start reaching for stuff like "almost picks" and blaming everything on the field on one player they're trolling.

 

[run and shoot]

Same here, but what's done is done. The way I understand it, this contract is only toxic during year 1 when we have the most cap space.

In year 2 and 3 it's slightly more than he was getting in 2013. After year 3 he can be cut with no repercussions.

So this years FA will be impacted, after that not so much.

LOL...I just hope we can survive another 3 yrs. Three yrs. That is definitely better than being stuck with him for 7 str8 years.

 

[ijustposthere]

And that would be how you tell the difference between someone with a different opinion and a troll.
When they start reaching for stuff like "almost picks" and blaming everything on the field on one player they're trolling.

Or "almost good posting."

 

[bearmick]

agreed But jay will probably play another 7 for us at a minimum...More like 10

But this is a sellers market..Many teams are desperate for a QB..Id say Cutler coulda got 20 per year on the market.

We got a steal!

It's it too late to change my vote for most delusional poster?

 

[ijustposthere]

LOL...I just hope we can survive another 3 yrs. Three yrs. That is definitely better than being stuck with him for 7 str8 years.

You're a bad poster, not even "almost good."

 

[bearmick]

Too late to read through 50+ pages, but smart move by the Bears. The offense is sure to be good for the next few years barring injuries, if I was a first time HC I would take Jay over some unknown mid to low round rookie every time. Why risk having to rebuild your offense or drafting a headcase by mistake when you already know that Jay and the Bears offensive staff work well together?

Smart move and the right decision for a chance to win NOW.

The problem is that you can't win with Cutler. All they did yesterday was waste the rest of Matt Forte and Brandon Marshall's career. The Cutler fanboys don't care about that, they don't care about results, they just want to have their idol around to fawn over like teenage girls. It's really pathetic.

 

[ijustposthere]

The problem is that you can't win with Cutler. All they did yesterday was waste the rest of Matt Forte and Brandon Marshall's career. The Cutler fanboys don't care about that, they don't care about results, they just want to have their idol around to fawn over like teenage girls. It's really pathetic.

I can't wait until my Cutler fathead comes in the mail.

 

[gpphat]

From late afternoon yesterday to now this thread has blown up (probably due to some merging...i hope) but one common theme I am seeing is a few posters hanging on to the "I was right and the 'haters' were wrong." What bothers me about this is the fact that most of the "haters" were all expecting Cutler to get signed, granted I don't think anyone thought it would have been a 7 year deal but most understand that he probably wont see the last 2-3 years of that contract. So if most of the posters who didn't want him back knew that he would be back how are they wrong? I was part of that crew that felt moving on was the smarter move but I was pretty sure he would end up getting signed...so where was I or anyone in this mindset wrong?

A lot of the "fanboys" have been pretty intolerable and sound childish whenever people have different opinions of Cutler (I also know that the "haters" have been just as bad), but the purpose of this board is to generate discussion and debate about football and mainly Bears football. So how is someone wrong or a bad fan when they don't feel that Cutler is the answer? How are they a bad fan when they see a backup QB fill in and play as well as the starter and say that they would be happy if Cutler were let go? Granted a lot of those discussions are a lot more colorful and usually filled with insults coming from both camps, but neither side is wrong in their thinking. When I sign on to CCS, its not to make definitive claims so I can pound my chest when I am right on that claim. I sign on to talk football and debate both sides of an argument.

Emery and Trestman feel Cutler is the best option at QB for the next 3-4 years, those two guys know a whole lot more football than any of us here and I'm pretty sure they even played high school football. So I hope they know what they are doing when they sign players to a long term deal. This move will define their success or failure here in Chicago. It doesn't seem like this deal will kill the Bears cap and that some defensive FA can be signed this offseason. With the offensive side of the ball fixed, I hope Emery can hit on some FA and in the draft to rebuild this defense. It feels a lot like the opposite of what the Bears had with Lovie...there is a great core on the offensive side of the ball but defense and ST are leaving a lot to be desired. If the defense and ST can improve to at least average, this team can be very scary...regardless of who is the QB.