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-11 career playoff performer (3 seasons) with a few goals and a few assists.   Spends long periods of playoff games on the bench in Q's dog house because he can't handle the pressure.   </p>
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Bottom pairings always spend less time on the ice, can he play better in the playoffs?  For sure, but if we are determining players futures off their playoff performance alone then our highest scoring player this season has to go.  Sharp was a complete no show these playoffs until Game 7 of the WCF's.  I just don't see cutting Leddy loose when he's an upper level dman at least 82 games of the season.  I agree about shying away from contact, that is largely a team wide problem.  Maybe if we get him a better linemate some of his problems will disappear?  What would he look like playing next to Brooks Orpik?</p>
 

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Letting Brookbank and Connelly go and moving Rozsival will free up $4 million, enough to sign Orpik.  Oduya is coming up next year and he's going to run about $4 million a year, he's making almost $3.4 million next year and his value is not going down.</p>
 

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I will agree he can skate and has speed.   He does bring the puck up the ice well.   But after it gets in the offensive zone seems like more often than not it ends up going around the glass and back down the ice or squarely in the goalies chest. </p>
 

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There are not enough expiring contracts to re-sign Toews and Kane and make a splash move in free agency.   That will require a trade of a core player not named Keith, Toews, Kane or Hossa.</p>
 

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Rosival has a NTC or NMC as well.</p>
 

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Leddy will be easier to trade.   He's a RFA, year left on his contract.   If you can get a team to bite on his "potential". </p>


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With Florida paying half of his contract Versteeg could be easy to trade as well.</p>


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Trading those 2 clears up 4.9 million in cap space plus the 4 million in expiring contracts (Brookbank, Khabby, Zus).</p>
 

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I don't see a splash free agent signing.   Would take a major move trade wise to free cap space.    I look for them to unload under performing players, bring up a yewt or two, and sign a few veteran players at bargain rates to fill out the roster.</p>


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I worry about Raanta being stolen away with an offer sheet and them failing to match it.</p>
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No one is going to slap an offer sheet on Raanta because he hasn't shown anything.</p>


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Anyway, he has no future with the Blackhawks so it really doesn't matter much.</p>


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They are set at goaltender for years.</p>
 

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Leddy will be easier to trade.   He's a RFA, year left on his contract.   If you can get a team to bite on his "potential". </p>


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With Florida paying half of his contract Versteeg could be easy to trade as well.</p>


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Trading those 2 clears up 4.9 million in cap space plus the 4 million in expiring contracts (Brookbank, Khabby, Zus).</p>
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I thought Khabi was on LTIR and not hitting the cap anymore?</p>
 

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Leddy will be easier to trade.   He's a RFA, year left on his contract.   If you can get a team to bite on his "potential". </p>


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With Florida paying half of his contract Versteeg could be easy to trade as well.</p>


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Trading those 2 clears up 4.9 million in cap space plus the 4 million in expiring contracts (Brookbank, Khabby, Zus).</p>
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Keep Saad and Leddy, ditch seabrook.</p>
 

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Pretty spot-on article if you ask me.</p>


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http://www.suntimes.com/27834768-761/many-factors-conspired-to-end-blackhawks-playoff-run.html#.U44suPldVPQ</p>


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<p class="" style="color:rgb(61,60,60);font-size:16px;font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, sans-serif;">Some five minutes after he slowly skated off the United Center ice for the last time this season, the last thing Duncan Keith wanted to do was take stock of the previous nine months.</p>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(61,60,60);font-size:16px;font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, sans-serif;">“I don’t know, it’s just frustrating right now,� he said. “It’s tough to analyze everything right now. I think as time goes on, we’ll kind of analyze it a little bit more.�</p>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(61,60,60);font-size:16px;font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, sans-serif;">When the Blackhawks do look back and figure out what went right and what went wrong, they’ll see just how fine a line they walked — just how close they were to history, and just how close they were to a first-round playoff exit against the Blues. If T.J. Oshie’s shot in the third period of Game 4 had gone a half inch to the left, maybe the Hawks would have spent the last month golfing. If the NHL war room had decided that Jeff Carter’s stick was an inch above the crossbar rather than a hair below it on his first-period goal in Game 7 on Sunday, maybe the Hawks are ­playing for their third Stanley Cup in five years and their second in a row.</p>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(61,60,60);font-size:16px;font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, sans-serif;">It’s hockey, and it always will be an inexact science. But here are five things that went just wrong enough to cost the Hawks a shot at ­another Cup.</p>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(61,60,60);font-size:16px;font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, sans-serif;">Out of their depth</p>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(61,60,60);font-size:16px;font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, sans-serif;">Last spring, with barely a minute left in a suddenly tied Game 6 of the Stanley Cup Final, on the road, Joel Quenneville sent his fourth line of Marcus Kruger, Dave Bolland and Michael Frolik over the boards. He had full faith in that line to keep the Bruins off the board and get the game to overtime. All it did was score the Cup-winning goal.</p>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(61,60,60);font-size:16px;font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, sans-serif;">This spring, in Game 7 of the Western Conference final against the Kings, Kris Versteeg played four shifts in the last two-plus periods, including one that lasted seven seconds. Michal Handzus came out for nine seconds in the last 12 minutes of the third period, just to take a faceoff. Brandon Bollig spent the last 46 minutes of the game on the bench.</p>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(61,60,60);font-size:16px;font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, sans-serif;">The 2014 Hawks simply didn’t have the depth that the 2013 Hawks did. Quenneville was loath to admit it, but the Hawks were basically a three-line team for much of the postseason, and in a grueling series like the one against the Kings, that’s not enough. General manager Stan Bowman had high hopes for Brandon Pirri, Ben Smith and Jeremy Morin to fill the skates of Bolland, Frolik and Viktor Stalberg. Only Smith earned a regular job. Pirri never earned Quenneville’s trust and was traded. Morin’s chance came too late to crack the postseason roster. Joakim Nordstrom wasn’t a difference-maker. Midseason acquisition Peter Regin didn’t get much of a chance in the postseason.</p>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(61,60,60);font-size:16px;font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, sans-serif;">Smith is a restricted free agent, and his agent has had no talks with the Hawks yet. Bollig and Versteeg are locked up, and Handzus might retire. The Hawks need the next generation to step up this fall — Morin, Nordstrom, Teuvo Teravainen, maybe even Mark McNeill and Phillip Danault — and Quenneville needs to give them a fair shot to make the Hawks a four-line team again.</p>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(61,60,60);font-size:16px;font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, sans-serif;">Center of attention</p>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(61,60,60);font-size:16px;font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, sans-serif;">Here’s a breaking story: The Hawks still don’t have a second-line center. It hasn’t stopped them from winning two Stanley Cups in the last five seasons, but it didn’t help them win a third, either. Just look at how the Kings are built — with unrivaled depth down the middle, four quality centers who can win faceoffs and play a 200-foot game — and you can see how important centers are. The fact that this season began with Quenneville trying Brandon Saad, a career winger, at center in the preseason was a clear indication that this problem had yet to be solved.</p>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(61,60,60);font-size:16px;font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, sans-serif;">Handzus, one of Quenneville’s veteran security blankets, filled the role for most of the season and the first two rounds of the postseason. Handzus plays a nice defensive game, but his slow footspeed was anathema to Patrick Kane’s speed game. Andrew Shaw found instant success with Saad and Kane in the Kings series, but Shaw is better suited to that third-line role he’s played for most of his career.</p>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(61,60,60);font-size:16px;font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, sans-serif;">Saad and Kane should be etched in stone on that second line for the next 10 years — their games are made for each other — but who will fill the void between them? The Hawks hope it’s Teravainen. The playmaking Finnish phenom got a cup of coffee with the Hawks late in the season and hardly was overwhelmed. But he needs to add size and strength to handle the rigors of the NHL. In the meantime, Shaw can hold down the fort, or Smith.</p>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(61,60,60);font-size:16px;font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, sans-serif;">Or who knows? Maybe Bowman says the heck with it, offers up Patrick Sharp (whose stock never will be higher coming off a career season) and makes a massive deal with the Sharks to bring Joe Thornton to town. That would do the trick.</p>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(61,60,60);font-size:16px;font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, sans-serif;">The ‘big move’</p>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(61,60,60);font-size:16px;font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, sans-serif;">As the trade deadline passed quietly, Bowman said the acquisition of Versteeg in November was the Hawks’ “big move.� After all, Versteeg is a three-time 20-goal scorer, and he played a key role in the Hawks’ 2010 Stanley Cup run. Quenneville loves Versteeg’s versatility — he played seven of the eight wing spots this season — and he comes at a relatively cheap price, with the Panthers paying half his salary over the next two seasons. But he never really looked like his old self. He had 10 goals in 63 games but just one goal and two assists with a minus-5 rating in the playoffs. He was a healthy scratch four times.</p>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(61,60,60);font-size:16px;font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, sans-serif;">Versteeg hasn’t been the same player since he had season-ending knee surgery last March. It can take a full year to fully recover from an injury like that, so there’s hope for a Versteeg turnaround next season. But the Hawks’ “big move� played just 3 minutes, 44 seconds in the biggest game of the season Sunday.</p>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(61,60,60);font-size:16px;font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, sans-serif;">Defenseless</p>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(61,60,60);font-size:16px;font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, sans-serif;">Last season, the Hawks won the Jennings Trophy as the stingiest team in the league, allowing just 2.1 goals per game. This season, only three of the 15 other playoff teams allowed more goals than the Hawks did — 2.7 per game. In the postseason, after two solid rounds against the Blues and Wild, the typically low-scoring Kings averaged four goals per game. Corey Crawford wasn’t at his best, but much of the blame falls on the Hawks’ defense, which allowed Kings forwards to camp out in front of Crawford untouched and failed to clear rebounds or block enough shots to justify their positioning.</p>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(61,60,60);font-size:16px;font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, sans-serif;">Michal Rozsival, so solid during last season’s playoff run that he earned a two-year contract, struggled for much of the postseason. Brent Seabrook was caught flat-footed numerous times. Even Keith — the favorite for the Norris Trophy — had his share of uncharacteristic turnovers. With Jonathan Toews and Kane due for monster contract extensions and Saad ready to cash in, too, not everybody will be back next year. Johnny Oduya and his $3.375 million contract could be on the trade block on draft day, for example. And with a bevy of talented defensemen in the system — big, bruising Stephen Johns, power-play specialist Adam Clendening and defensive-minded Klas Dahlbeck — the Hawks can afford to be aggressive.</p>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(61,60,60);font-size:16px;font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, sans-serif;">It’s really hard</p>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(61,60,60);font-size:16px;font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, sans-serif;">This isn’t the NBA. The Stanley Cup Final is never preordained, the favorites are never obvious, the road is never easy. The Hawks were running on fumes by the end of the longest, most exhausting and most exhilarating 17 months in franchise history — and they still were just one goal short of the Final. The Hawks are flawed, but not fatally. There’s talent in the system, ready to take the next step. There’s a market to be had for some Hawks veterans if Bowman wants to be bold. And there’s still a ridiculously talented core, now with Saad and Shaw counted among them.</p>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(61,60,60);font-size:16px;font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, sans-serif;">The Hawks can’t win the Stanley Cup every year in the modern-day NHL. Nobody does. But they’ll be in the mix again next year and for several years after that. And as this year illustrated, the right tweak here and the right move there could make all the difference.</p>
 

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Keep Saad and Leddy, ditch seabrook.</p>
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Keep Saad and Seabrook, ditch Leddy and Sharp</p>
 

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Doesn't sound like Versteeg is going anywhere. And why bother with trying to get a guy like Roy for center? For as much as people were fawning over Teuvo when he came up here late in the season and how they should've even risked burning a year off his contract, NOW is his chance. This is where you hand the reigns over to him for that spot, from the start of training camp onward.</p>


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Don't bother bidding for Roy, just get someone like Goc or McClement (who is also a good PKer) for the bottom six and be done with it. I just don't see how there needs to be a whole lot done.</p>
 

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Honestly I'm really liking the idea of trying to get Orpik, Tuevo can step in and take Handzus' spot.  He's going to have growing pains but he's going to have them in the AHL too, may as well learn with the club you're gonna win cups with.   Getting a little tired of this get rid of Leddy nonsense, he's never going to be Duncan Keith or Brent Seabrook but there are very few second lines in the NHL he couldn't make and more than a couple first lines he would make.   He's the number 5 defenseman on the probably the most talented defense in the NHL.  How about we see what he can do with a partner not named Brookbank or Rozsival.</p>
 

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Unless it's a one year deal, I wouldn't want to sign him.</p>
 

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Time for prime JJ "rumors"
 
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Sharp's "story" is interesting because, in addition to some scuttlebutt about conflict with teammates, I've heard a surprising amount of feedback from fans and especially season ticket holders with a good deal of player access that Sharp has a "personality problem," is "too aloof," etc.

Now this all has to be taken with a huge grain of salt. It's all hearsay. That said, when you hear it over and over, it does make you pause and wonder.

Further, Sharp is 32, highly paid and coming off a less than stellar playoffs. Though that, I'm hearing, might be due to having played with a shoulder separation.</p></blockquote>
What? He bases this on what some fans with supposed player access has to say? Sharp had a bad playoffs, but a career regular season, but I guess that doesn't count at all. Stupid.
 

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Time for prime JJ "rumors"
 

What? He bases this on what some fans with supposed player access has to say? Sharp had a bad playoffs, but a career regular season, but I guess that doesn't count at all. Stupid.</p></blockquote>
Yea...because Sharp comes of as a big headed arrogant bastard. Weeeeee!
 

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Yea...because Sharp comes of as a big headed arrogant bastard. Weeeeee!</p>
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I haven't had too many encounters with Sharp but he's always seemed like a nice guy.</p>


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Although I can't figure out why fans need players to be nice guys.</p>


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I have zero desire to have conversations with them.....Just win.</p>


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I only cheer for laundry. </p>
 

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On a personal level I can not stand Orpik he is one of my least favorite blueliners in the league. Not because he is a horrible blueliner but because he is a giant dick. Wouldn't want him on this club myself but around a team with good leadership? He may be tolerable. If it's a replacement for a guy like Roszival or Brookbank? GREAT...but that isn't going to happen because Orpik will demand a salary that won't be in the Hawks budget. And to trade Leddy to fit him in? No thanks Orpik isn't that good in his own zone either. He isn't horrible but he isn't that big of an upgrade. He is also a walking penalty at times.And I'm not a huge Leddy fan these days either. His development in his own zone has not improved one bit which is sad. I'm willing to give him another year though cause im a hell of a nice guy.</p>


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I'm not ready as a fan to have this club deal anybody with the exceptions of Versteeg but even then I really don't care if he sticks around that much. Not Leddy, not Seabrook, not Sharp. Don't need to trade a soul and don't need to make any major shake ups. Not as if the team got knocked out in 4 straight in the first round. A lot of over reactions in this thread for a team that got beat in a game 7 conference final to a very very very good team. Just wow to some of the suggestions in here.</p>


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I'm not concerned about the regular season next year. Hawks shouldn't have a problem clinching a playoff spot yet again. </p>


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Smith to get more ice minutes. He is one of the best players this club has behind and around the net. Can utilize that.</p>


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Give TT a fair shot at center with no red carpet media over hyping. If he doesn't look like he can do it yet then and only then maybe discussing finding a depth center via a trade.</p>


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Want Hossa to be used less in the regular season so he isn't burnt out through a long playoff run if it happens again (he was not productive on offense in the Kings series and I don't care how it's spun to make others believe that he was...he wasn't at his best because he is starting to show a long career PERIOD). Time to manage his minutes better and to make sure he is actually ready to come back after one of his 3 reg season injuries.</p>


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Would like Saad to develop more and continue to be aware of his abilities away from the perimeter game. He can now be used as the second line left wing and let Bickell fall back to 3rd until the playoffs hehehehe</p>


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Would like a development of a back up goalie. I'm not sold on Raanta and I don't want to see Craw play a string of reg season games like he did this season after khabi went down and Raanta wasn't getting ice time.</p>


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The coaching staff to re-evaluate their strategy late in games. :icon-smile:</p>


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That's pretty much it. I think those are reasonable hockey wants that are realistic without blowing up something that doesn't need to be blown up.</p>
 

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Being Teuvo in and give him some sheltered minutes, keep Shaw on the 2nd line while he develops. The ShawKane Saddemption line was our best the last 3 games. Keep it going as they obviously have good chemistry.


Let Smith keep playing on the 4th and move him up when needed as well as Morin (for Zeus and Steeg). Ditch a dman (Seabs or Rozi, not Leddy!) and bring up one of our young dman from Rockford (Clendening?).


It's not like this team needs any key parts. We were one goal away from another year at the SC final.
 

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