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Blackhawks signed 2 AHL players this morning
Cameron Schilling
Michael Liambas
Cameron Schilling
Michael Liambas
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Not to mention Anisimov is entering his prime while Vermette is leaving his. Anisimov has better size and will have more offensive production in the Hawks system, and he is still a good all around center. Vermette was terrible for the most part in the system and only become a good niche role player in the last two playoff series. But emo fans want to make major financial commitments to rental role players who get hot during the playoffs. They've learned nothing from Bickell.
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Vermette's regular season in Q's system:
| GP | G | A | P | +/- | PIM | PPG | SHG | GWG | S | S% |
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| 19 | 0 | 3 | 3 | -2 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 24 | 0.0 |
I love how you bring up his single 60 point season that happened six years ago like it's the rule rather than the exception, when he's been on average a 30 point player since then.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8468535
Were you dropped as a child?
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Do you know how to count? He's averaged 43 points throughout his career on the Blue Jackets and Coyotes -- in case you weren't aware, those teams suck. He's a 40-50 point center who has durability and can win faceoffs. Anisimov has averaged 38, and hes going to be making almost $1M more next season than Vermette, can't win a faceoff, and gets injured every year.
Feel free to nail the guy for his regular season, getting thrown onto a team at the end of the season, and learning the system. If he had a full training camp, then maybe you'd have something. You can name hundreds of players that didn't produce in the regular season after being thrown onto a team after the deadline.
At the end of the day, it is what it is. I would rather have Vermette than Anisimov.
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What Antoine Vermette did 7-8 years ago is irrelevant to the 33-year old player he will be next season and going forward through his next contract. If that is a difficult principle for you to grasp, I'm sorry.
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No need to be sorry for me. You're the one that can't do simple math.
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Girl fight!
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What a magical fancy-pants world you live in, that no player ever declines with age or produces less in a system that doesn't fit him, and where past performance is a guarantee on future results. Don't trip over your gumball doorstep when you leave the house, schnookums.
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Vermette over his time the last 3-4 years in Arizona has had the icetime just barely below typical 1st liner.. and around 3rd liner production. He's pretty much settled into that now and from quotes of him, he seemed to prefer that gifted role he gets in Arizona being a key PP figure and occasional 1st line center depending on how Hanzal's health is doing as he's never really healthy all year long and even when playing sometimes in games top ice-time swaps.
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...and Kyle Calder once led the Blackhawks in points with 59.
[video=youtube;zIdUlp3QAsk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIdUlp3QAsk[/video]
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You watch your mouth about kyle calder!
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Much better.
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Gotta say I haven't seen people this shaken by a Hawks made trade since the trade of Calder... when I looked in my mirrors and said, That's it, I'm done with you Hawks!
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You mean the first time they traded him away? Or when they re-acquired him and then shipped him off to Detroit within the same hour?
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Very good very cruel point. 
but it was the cheapness of the 1st trade
but it was the cheapness of the 1st tradefatbeard
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https://twitter.com/ChrisKuc/status/616964370044727296
A move to resign Oduya would be contingent on moving Sharp first. Frankly, I'd rather see the Oduya retained for 2-3 years as opposed to Sharp because the Blackhawks have the forward depth to mitigate his loss (particularly if Tikhonov can play 3rd C letting TT slide up to 1st LW and physically mature for another year), and they'd just have to move him next year, while things are much dicier on the back end. Resigning Oduya would keep Johns/TVR on the 3rd pairing, which is not a bad look at all.
A move to resign Oduya would be contingent on moving Sharp first. Frankly, I'd rather see the Oduya retained for 2-3 years as opposed to Sharp because the Blackhawks have the forward depth to mitigate his loss (particularly if Tikhonov can play 3rd C letting TT slide up to 1st LW and physically mature for another year), and they'd just have to move him next year, while things are much dicier on the back end. Resigning Oduya would keep Johns/TVR on the 3rd pairing, which is not a bad look at all.
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:yep: #CalledIt ...that's called bringing it back.
Desjardins signed a 2 year 800K avg deal to come back to the Hawks.
