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I'm not a big fan of Ross either. I thought I read that Maddon said there wouldn't be any "caddy" catchers for pitchers. If that's the case why waste a roster spot? If they want what's in his head, then hire him him as a bullpen catcher and save the roster spot for someone who can physically help the team.
 

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I expect they will compete for the playoffs. I said the chance they finish exactly one or two games out is slim.

Some may say I don't get it, but they'd be wrong.

So many teams just make the playoffs.

Whatever helps you sleep, believe what you need to my friend
 

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I think Wood is going to shut the door on the #5 spot really soon. Another game like that and it is over.
 

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No, its the I cant understand business so I keep going with it type followers. Stop the nonsense. You are just trolling now.
not trolling at all. But when you have nothing to come back with I understand your choice
This. There isn't any action on the Sux forum at the moment. We're the only friends he has to discuss ball with right now.:D
On this forum. And yes I wish there was more baseball talk on this forum.
 

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I don't think you understood what Bear Pride meant. He is discussing command and location, not getting calls from an umpire.

I understood and still he doesn't have the command of a Maddux. Not even close.
 

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I understood and still he doesn't have the command of a Maddux. Not even close.

You have to look at each pitcher at the same time frame of their careers. Maddux in his rookie year got blown up.
 

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I've just never done the comparison thing unless it's numbers to numbers. Players have all different make ups from skills to attitude so saying a guy is "the next" anything is pointless. From all the scouting reports I read Hendricks has the ability and skill set to be a long term MOR starter but will likely never be a 1 or 2. That's pretty good without having to compare him with HoF players.
 

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I've just never done the comparison thing unless it's numbers to numbers. Players have all different make ups from skills to attitude so saying a guy is "the next" anything is pointless. From all the scouting reports I read Hendricks has the ability and skill set to be a long term MOR starter but will likely never be a 1 or 2. That's pretty good without having to compare him with HoF players.
How many TORs do you know of have his velocity? What was the average velocity in the league when Maddux was in his prime? Answer: Much less. Would Maddux be a TOR today? The zone called is different. I've had ups and downs with Beer Pride, but what Bear Pride is saying isn't that Hendricks is "the next" Maddux. The point is the kid doesn't have big velocity, but pitches smart and hits his spots. That's the comparison. It isn't a numbers thing and it isn't a prediction on a career. I'm a libertarian on this kind of thing. It isn't harming anyone that Hendricks reminds Bear Pride and others of Maddux.
 

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How many TORs do you know of have his velocity? What was the average velocity in the league when Maddux was in his prime? Answer: Much less. Would Maddux be a TOR today? The zone called is different. I've had ups and downs with Beer Pride, but what Bear Pride is saying isn't that Hendricks is "the next" Maddux. The point is the kid doesn't have big velocity, but pitches smart and hits his spots. That's the comparison. It isn't a numbers thing and it isn't a prediction on a career. I'm a libertarian on this kind of thing. It isn't harming anyone that Hendricks reminds Bear Pride and others of Maddux.

True, but stating it publicly opens the statement up for scrutiny I think.
 

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True, but stating it publicly opens the statement up for scrutiny I think.
Not really. We could have a Cubs pitcher get pissed at the catcher, punch him in the face and then beat up the gatorade cooler. It would remind me of Zambrano. Does that open me up for scrutiny?
 

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Not really. We could have a Cubs pitcher get pissed at the catcher, punch him in the face and then beat up the gatorade cooler. It would remind me of Zambrano. Does that open me up for scrutiny?

If you said it reminded you of his pitchign style yes. But you are saying it reminds you of an incident so no.
 

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If you said it reminded you of his pitchign style yes. But you are saying it reminds you of an incident so no.
Hendricks had an incident last fall. He didn't throw nearly as hard as most other starting pitchers. He just was crafty and hit his spots. It reminded me of Maddux. ;)
 

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Hendricks had an incident last fall. He didn't throw nearly as hard as most other starting pitchers. He just was crafty and hit his spots. It reminded me of Maddux. ;)

I'd counter with the romanticize of the situation. Seems a lot like the size of the fish you caught. :)
 

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I'd counter with the romanticize of the situation. Seems a lot like the size of the fish you caught. :)
The fish I caught would have to keep getting bigger and bigger every time I told the story. Did Hendricks keep striking out more batters than he really did in his incident last fall? Did his era keep getting lower when I mentioned his incident last fall? Not at all. It hasn't been mentioned by myself and more importantly Bear Pride. IOW, what you created there was an informal fallacy.
 

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not trolling at all. But when you have nothing to come back with I understand your choice

On this forum. And yes I wish there was more baseball talk on this forum.

What? This discussion has been had at least 4 other time with you and you were provided information that you ignore. You are just trolling.
 

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The fish I caught would have to keep getting bigger and bigger every time I told the story. Did Hendricks keep striking out more batters than he really did in his incident last fall? Did his era keep getting lower when I mentioned his incident last fall? Not at all. It hasn't been mentioned by myself and more importantly Bear Pride. IOW, what you created there was an informal fallacy.

No, what you discuss is provable evidence. What I am saying is you and Bear Pride are romanticizing the accuracy of Hendricks.
 

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What? This discussion has been had at least 4 other time with you and you were provided information that you ignore. You are just trolling.

Not trolling. My trolling is always qualified.
Any link to one of the four+? Just one?
 

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