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The Rangers' Pythagorean expectation, which showed Texas won far more games than their run differential should correlate to, was brought up in another thread earlier--you ignored it (with the laughing smiley, no less), and insisted that this was evidence that the Rangers were simply "clutch". You were presented analysis, here in this thread no less, that showed the idea of "clutch" is essentially as accurate as randomness when predicting future performance--you ignored it. You are the horse that was led to water and still refused to drink. Try not to hurt your back moving the goalposts.
Strawman all you wish.

I commented on the Pythagorean Record on how it was based on run differential. Keep it. I commented on the Luck factor. Keep it. I pointed out undeniable facts on the Rangers dominance against great teams in the regular season that no one could stack an argument against. I'm not leading you to water, I'm reminding you that there is free air right where you are and yet you keep refusing to inhale.
 

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Strawman all you wish.

I commented on the Pythagorean Record on how it was based on run differential. Keep it. I commented on the Luck factor. Keep it. I pointed out undeniable facts on the Rangers dominance against great teams in the regular season that no one could stack an argument against. I'm not leading you to water, I'm reminding you that there is free air right where you are and yet you keep refusing to inhale.

Base Runs also showed that the Rangers success was based more on luck than on actual talent so they overachieved there, in Pythagorean record and in run differential which are the three leading indicators of winning percentage. When a team's record is vastly different from these indicators there is assumed to be a lot of luck, good or bad, involved. When you say "keep it" do you mean you ignore these numbers? Help me understand this. All of the indicators told us that Texas was a vastly inferior team to Toronto, who actually underperformed their numbers in these three categories, and they dominated Texas. Anything can happen in the playoffs of course, and in a five game series inferior teams often win, but in this case the better team won and the numbers give us indication of why. Do you dispute all of that?
 

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Base Runs also showed that the Rangers success was based more on luck than on actual talent so they overachieved there, in Pythagorean record and in run differential which are the three leading indicators of winning percentage. When a team's record is vastly different from these indicators there is assumed to be a lot of luck, good or bad, involved. When you say "keep it" do you mean you ignore these numbers? Help me understand this. All of the indicators told us that Texas was a vastly inferior team to Toronto, who actually underperformed their numbers in these three categories, and they dominated Texas. Anything can happen in the playoffs of course, and in a five game series inferior teams often win, but in this case the better team won and the numbers give us indication of why. Do you dispute all of that?

I don't trust run diff nor luck.
I do not agree that Toronto was the better team in the Regular Season. Many feel that the Red Sox were the best team in the AL and some in all of Baseball. I didn't and have the Indians ahead of them in both regular season and playoffs. To each their own.
 

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I don't trust run diff nor luck.
I do not agree that Toronto was the better team in the Regular Season. Many feel that the Red Sox were the best team in the AL and some in all of Baseball. I didn't and have the Indians ahead of them in both regular season and playoffs. To each their own.

Price has a bad track record in the play offs. Porcello lead the majors in runs scored for. He was pitching with 7-9 runs of support per 9 on avg. his numbers were juiced.
 

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Sorry, thought that was there with me saying the Rangers got smoked.

For clarity, I was wrong.

If it makes you feel anybody, in 2013 I said Theo Epstein was ruining the Cubs LOL. Pretty sure mine just a tad more egregious.
 

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If it makes you feel anybody, in 2013 I said Theo Epstein was ruining the Cubs LOL. Pretty sure mine just a tad more egregious.

Honestly, I am not offended by a failed miserable prediction. :)

In 2013 you were right. Then the lottery tickets happened and Theo hit on just about every single ticket. :)

Go Cubs!
 

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Rendon with a huge 2 run homer. Nats up 4-1.
 

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Honestly, I am not offended by a failed miserable prediction. :)

In 2013 you were right. Then the lottery tickets happened and Theo hit on just about every single ticket. :)

Go Cubs!

Not every. Almora is far from proven. Schwarber has to still come back the same guy. Add to it prove to be more than a DH.

What they have done is acquire talent and set it up where the talent would impact at the same time. That part was excellent planning. The whole litter ticket notion is just that. The lottery ticket was Bryant and he was the #2 pick coming off a year that he was by far the best player. Schwarber had a fast impact but we still don't know if he will become a every day position player with his limited skills. Just seeing how they held onto Soler and pushed Contreras up neither do the Cubs.

I would weigh it in acquiring talent then signing the right manager and F/A's to enhance what they acquired from the diffrent avenues.
 

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Rendon with a huge 2 run homer. Nats up 4-1.

On the fence on this series. Word is Stras is pitching off a mound getting ready for the next series. I could see it going 5 and starting off the next series with Stras to give their guys a extra day off.

LAD are suspect to LHP and that is not a strength with the Cubs.
 

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Loving the way Francona is using Miller this series. Gets him through the sixth with only one run and then probably the 7th too. Then go to Allen for the 8th and 9th.
 

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I'm sure someone will get mad at me for saying this but it would be really nice for Rizzo to start hitting.
 

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Murphy ties the game at 5 for the Nats! This dude doesnt quit in the playoffs. He has been on some unreal shit for 2 years.
 

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Dusty Baker better hope the Nationals don't come back and tie this game because he's used six pitchers in the 7th inning.
 

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I don't trust run diff nor luck.
I do not agree that Toronto was the better team in the Regular Season. Many feel that the Red Sox were the best team in the AL and some in all of Baseball. I didn't and have the Indians ahead of them in both regular season and playoffs. To each their own.

The Cubs are and have been the best team in baseball. Think if we had a DH.
 

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Kershaw is in the bullpen, maybe he will pitch the 9th
 

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Kershaw threw 110 on Tuesday, and is up in the pen.

Hope the Nats make him throw a lot of pitches.

Hill certainly didn't. He was gone before half the people sat down.
 

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Somewhere on this Forum guys were going back n forth about any team using their ace out of the pen....well, Kershaw just went out to the bullpen to warm up.
 

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