2018 Hug watch thread..

[CSF77]

Like i said, i don't think theyll stress out Smyley for the playoffs..

Hell we dont even know how affective he will be if or when he actually pitches in a major league game, let alone risk counting on him now for a playoff spot a week before the deadline ends...

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I only listed 7 guys and subtracted Chatwood. Add Yu and there is still 1 roster spot left. I could see a 2 inning RH as I really see Butler tanking.

Add to it it is too early with Smyly but you want to get him out there early and to work through his rehab. I see them taking close to 5 starts as they did with Butler. Then ease him in live in Sept.

come Oct it really depends on results. As far as wear he has been out for a year plus. 3 months of live action is really not considered wear.

 

[chibears55]

I only listed 7 guys and subtracted Chatwood. Add Yu and there is still 1 roster spot left. I could see a 2 inning RH as I really see Butler tanking.

Cant reallly add YU now either..
Dont know if or when he gonna return and how affective he'll be if he does..
He was struggling before he went down..

All im saying is, if management is actually looking ..
They will bring in an arm or two that going to be upgrades to what they have at the end of the pen right now..

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[CSF77]

Cant reallly add YU now either..
Dont know if or when he gonna return and how affective he'll be if he does..
He was struggling before he went down..

All im saying is, if management is actually looking ..
They will bring in an arm or two that going to be upgrades to what they have at the end of the pen right now..

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Yu stays down I doubt they are a contender regardless. So they can’t replace him anyways. Worrying about that is pointless because that is a breaker

 

[chibears55]

Yu stays down I doubt they are a contender regardless. So they can’t replace him anyways. Worrying about that is pointless because that is a breaker

Im not and wasn't worried about YU..
For me if he gives them anything going forward its just cream on the pie..

I actually think their gonna end up shutting him down for the year after the deadline passes...


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[CSF77]

Im not and wasn't worried about YU..
For me if he gives them anything going forward its just cream on the pie..

I actually think their gonna end up shutting him down for the year after the deadline passes...


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If that happened they have 0% chance for getting out of the first round.

 

[CSF77]

Britton deal done cost Yanks their #6 prospect and 2 adds. That would be like Keegan Thomas with Abbott and Lacey honestly.

 

[chibears55]

If that happened they have 0% chance for getting out of the first round.

That why im concerned...lol

If Darvish cant cut it or is shutdown and they dont add anyone of significant (which im not counting on), their in deep shit with the rotation as is...

Just saw this..

https://twitter.com/ckamka/status/1021937457212928000?s=19

This is why im also concerned about the bullpen and getting worn out..

Maddon basically using 3 + guys out of the pen just about every game..

He had to use 5 position players in 2 games over 3 days to save the pen, that crazy..

Ill have to look but i cant recall if the rotation has had back to back starts of 7+ innings this year and if so, its probably been a long while since...




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[chibears55]

Have to think the Nats being under .500 and 6.5 back of division and 6 back of WC, will start considering moving Harper and get something for him before deadline...



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[beckdawg]

Britton deal done cost Yanks their #6 prospect and 2 adds. That would be like Keegan Thomas with Abbott and Lacey honestly.

Not really. Tate is a better prospect than Keegan. He was the #4 pick in the 2015 draft and while I would say he hasn't quite lived up to those expectations, he's still a very good prospect. Hasn't had an ERA over 3.4 since coming over to the yankees in the Beltran trade.

 

[beckdawg]

Honestly I'm not that fussed about the cubs missing out on Briton. I think he was over priced for what he was. People are hoping he can be the guy he was 2 years ago but the cubs never need the guy he was 2 years ago. They have good arms to close out games. They just need capable arms to help out their starters who are struggling atm.

 

[anotheridiot]

That why im concerned...lol

If Darvish cant cut it or is shutdown and they dont add anyone of significant (which im not counting on), their in deep shit with the rotation as is...

Just saw this..

https://twitter.com/ckamka/status/1021937457212928000?s=19

This is why im also concerned about the bullpen and getting worn out..

Maddon basically using 3 + guys out of the pen just about every game..

He had to use 5 position players in 2 games over 3 days to save the pen, that crazy..

Ill have to look but i cant recall if the rotation has had back to back starts of 7+ innings this year and if so, its probably been a long while since...




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This morning I heard the only guys that get to 7 regularly are Scherzer, Sale and one guy that is available, James Shields.

 

[CSF77]

Honestly I'm not that fussed about the cubs missing out on Briton. I think he was over priced for what he was. People are hoping he can be the guy he was 2 years ago but the cubs never need the guy he was 2 years ago. They have good arms to close out games. They just need capable arms to help out their starters who are struggling atm.

Basically they need 2 more 2 inning arms. We are seeing Chatwood and Hendricks pulled after 5 on a regular basis. The other 3 are getting 6 in on avg. so you really are getting 3-4,innings every day out of the pen.

 

[CSF77]

Not really. Tate is a better prospect than Keegan. He was the #4 pick in the 2015 draft and while I would say he hasn't quite lived up to those expectations, he's still a very good prospect. Hasn't had an ERA over 3.4 since coming over to the yankees in the Beltran trade.

Too early on that. Tate did fall out then built up again. He has had more time. Keegan has made it to AA in his first full and is holding his own. That is not a easy thing. I think you are selling our boy short. BA moved him ahead of Little and it is justified.

 

[beckdawg]

Too early on that. Tate did fall out then built up again. He has had more time. Keegan has made it to AA in his first full and is holding his own. That is not a easy thing. I think you are selling our boy short. BA moved him ahead of Little and it is justified.

And I think you're overvaluing polish. Look I like Keegan. I also like the cubs philosophy of drafting starters with less than stellar stuff but great command. But that's not how most teams view pitching prospects. It's the reason you routinely see scouts pan the cubs system. Keegan knows how to pitch so it's really unsurprising he's in AA this fast. The issue with him is he's unlikely to improve. There may be some area on the margins for him to get better but he's largely the player now he will be if he makes the majors. Simply put Tate has more upside left in his game.

 

[beckdawg]

Luke Blaize
@ltblaize
Cruz to Myrtle Beach rates a mild #HugWatch. Pereda is a possible trade target, so Cruz could be moving to insure against him being dealt.

Pereda was also the only healthy catcher on that roster and caught two games yesterday. So don't get too excited.

He's referring to Jhonny Pereda for those who are unaware. He's having a break out year at A+ as a C with a 110 wRC+. With Contreras and Amaya the cubs are pretty well positioned catching wise. Doubt he would return much but might be a decent piece in a reliever trade for someone.

 

[CSF77]

And I think you're overvaluing polish. Look I like Keegan. I also like the cubs philosophy of drafting starters with less than stellar stuff but great command. But that's not how most teams view pitching prospects. It's the reason you routinely see scouts pan the cubs system. Keegan knows how to pitch so it's really unsurprising he's in AA this fast. The issue with him is he's unlikely to improve. There may be some area on the margins for him to get better but he's largely the player now he will be if he makes the majors. Simply put Tate has more upside left in his game.

Pretty sure he went through surgery that sapped some of his fastball so he had to learn how to use his secondary more. He is another with a curve as his primary weapon. That is a trend by Theo’s team now. Plus curve pitchers.

 

[CSF77]

He's referring to Jhonny Pereda for those who are unaware. He's having a break out year at A+ as a C with a 110 wRC+. With Contreras and Amaya the cubs are pretty well positioned catching wise. Doubt he would return much but might be a decent piece in a reliever trade for someone.

First time I heard of him.

 

[CSF77]

I looked over their line up last night and kinda passsd them off as underwhelming. Looking at him spiciffically. For a catcher he is not bad hitting. Must have a good glove to gain any attention as his line is not gamebreaking.

 

[beckdawg]

First time I heard of him.

IIRC he was one of the under the radar mexican signings IFA wise when they were under penalty. I don't ever see him being a top guy but wouldn't shock me if he ends up at a similar value to Bote or Caratini.

Not sure if that has anything to do with Kevin Gausman but I wouldn't mind the cubs grabbing him if the price is reasonable. If you were to pay something like low end #3 or decent #4 prices for him I think he has some upside. And given the O's seem to be going the quantity route on prospects rather than pure elite guys it seems like someone like Pereda would fit that mold.

 

[beckdawg]

I looked over their line up last night and kinda passsd them off as underwhelming. Looking at him spiciffically. For a catcher he is not bad hitting. Must have a good glove to gain any attention as his line is not gamebreaking.

Any catcher who can hit is going to gain attention. I mean look caratini isn't pudge back there but at A+ when he started to creep onto radar he had a 111 wRC+ which is similar. Also worth noting it's often that catchers bats take longer to come around.