2018 Hug watch thread..

[beckdawg]

Jalen Beeks to tb for Nathan Eovaldi. Mlb.com had beeks as a 45 grade. If that's the going rate for a back end starter that seems promising given the cubs needs.

 

[chibears55]

This morning I heard the only guys that get to 7 regularly are Scherzer, Sale and one guy that is available, James Shields.

Right..
This is for 6 innings, not 7

58 of 100 starts cubs starters have failed to go 6 innings

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[chibears55]

Looks like JA Happ next in line for the cubs...
Watch for hugs in the minors

https://twitter.com/Michael_Cerami/status/1022223655483449346?s=19

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[CSF77]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/07/diamondbacks-designate-randall-delgado-for-assignment.html

 

[CSF77]

Looks like JA Happ next in line for the cubs...
Watch for hugs in the minors

https://twitter.com/Michael_Cerami/status/1022223655483449346?s=19

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3:46PM: The Yankees are “heavy in the mix” for Happ, Feinsand tweets, with other teams (such as the Brewers) still possibly being in play. The Cubs are one of the other teams involved, according to Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times.

3:39PM: As the Blue Jays and Twins began action at 3:07pm CT today, Happ hadn’t heard about a trade, Fancred’s Jon Heyman tweets. Happ is in Toronto’s dugout, Sportsnet.ca’s Ben Nicholson-Smith and others have reported.

2:54PM: The Blue Jays “appear close” to striking a deal to send lefty J.A. Happ to a contender, according to MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand (via Twitter). Particulars of the potential match are entirely unknown, though certainly a variety of contenders make sense generally as destinations for the veteran starter.

Happ has mostly been a quality performer for the past several seasons. He currently sits at a 4.18 ERA on the present season, with peripherals suggesting he has been even more effective than the results would suggest. Though Happ endured a few rough outings recently, he racked up nine strikeouts and allowed just one earned run over five innings in his last start.

As a pending free agent on a struggling Toronto team, it has long seemed clear he’d be dealt this summer. Happ ranked sixth among trade deadline candidates on MLBTR’s recent list.

Last we heard, the Jays were said to be lowering their asking price on Happ as the deadline draws near. The Yankees, Phillies, and Cubs have been linked to him in recent weeks, though it’s not at all clear whether any of those teams is pressing to land the southpaw today.

 

[CSF77]

Sometimes I just want to call hogwash....

 

[CSF77]

Any catcher who can hit is going to gain attention. I mean look caratini isn't pudge back there but at A+ when he started to creep onto radar he had a 111 wRC+ which is similar. Also worth noting it's often that catchers bats take longer to come around.

Normally catchers will take longer just based off of game calling. Hitting/catching/framing are all more skill related. Game calling is scouting and game experience. Knowing you pitcher and noticing if a adjustment needs to me made. How to pitch that guy the 2nd time etc. That comes with in game and that is why catchers take longer in general.

Shoot I'll accept less at the plate if he is making the team better and the pitcher better.

 

[chibears55]

What a trade deadline without a rumored Chris Archer and Cubs

http://www.bleachernation.com/2018/...bout-the-cubs-and-chris-archer-again-isnt-it/


Just throwing this out there but if i recall, cubs struck quick the last couple years when adding a significant player to the team..

So, have to think with them being quiet to this point outside Chavez and with just 5 days left, might be safe to say we shouldn't expect anything of significant from them outside maybe adding another low key reliever who can start like Chavez...

Think their just gonna go forward with what they got and hope key players get hot at the right time...



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[CSF77]

What a trade deadline without a rumored Chris Archer and Cubs

http://www.bleachernation.com/2018/...bout-the-cubs-and-chris-archer-again-isnt-it/


Just throwing this out there but if i recall, cubs struck quick the last couple years when adding a significant player to the team..

So, have to think with them being quiet to this point outside Chavez and with just 5 days left, might be safe to say we shouldn't expect anything of significant from them outside maybe adding another low key reliever who can start like Chavez...

Think their just gonna go forward with what they got and hope key players get hot at the right time...



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I find no reason for Theo to not be honest. He was pretty strait forward that they were not going to be looking to make a plunge. Chavez was exactly what he was talking about and I believe the under the radar rumor vs the typical big name attachment just because some writer sees a match up.

 

[beckdawg]

Normally catchers will take longer just based off of game calling. Hitting/catching/framing are all more skill related. Game calling is scouting and game experience. Knowing you pitcher and noticing if a adjustment needs to me made. How to pitch that guy the 2nd time etc. That comes with in game and that is why catchers take longer in general.

Shoot I'll accept less at the plate if he is making the team better and the pitcher better.

That cuts both ways. There's catching prospects who are legitimate catching prospects solely because of their defensive abilities. For those players teams will often give them longer to come around as a hitter. And given the state of catchers, there's more of these type of catching prospects than Contreras types who have bats far advanced of their glove.

 

[chibears55]

I find no reason for Theo to not be honest. He was pretty strait forward that they were not going to be looking to make a plunge. Chavez was exactly what he was talking about and I believe the under the radar rumor vs the typical big name attachment just because some writer sees a match up.

I agree, that what im saying...

The last 2 years he went out and got that big name right away..
Chapman in 2016
Quintana in 2017

With 4 days til deadline, makes you think he staying simple this year..


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[CSF77]

I agree, that what im saying...

The last 2 years he went out and got that big name right away..
Chapman in 2016
Quintana in 2017

With 4 days til deadline, makes you think he staying simple this year..


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I see them hunting the wavers. Theo has 2 pitchers going into rehab soon.

I honestly think they pull Hamels waver again and try to flip him and Chatwood. They can afford to pay the remainder owed and they could even pay his 20 mil if need next year if he improves in the NL again. Far better than suffering Chatwood.

As far as another arm Butler came back and did refill that need. He got 2 innings in and was better than in the minors. He is fine in games that the starter craps the bed to save the pen.

 

[chibears55]

Brewers get Joakim Soria from Whitesox

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[chibears55]

Cole Hamel seems to be the current flavor for the cubs now

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[beckdawg]

Depending on how much money texas would eat and how good of a prospect the cubs might have to give up, I'm down with Hamels. He's obviously not what he once was but pitching in Texas isn't doing him any favors and he has postseason experience. Plus if things go right with Darvish you're not needing him to carry you just to be a #4 or #5.

 

[chibears55]

Depending on how much money texas would eat and how good of a prospect the cubs might have to give up, I'm down with Hamels. He's obviously not what he once was but pitching in Texas isn't doing him any favors and he has postseason experience. Plus if things go right with Darvish you're not needing him to carry you just to be a #4 or #5.

I read the opposite...

Cubs would eat the rest of his 20 mil owed this year for a lesser return..

Next is a buyout year for 6 mil if they wanna go that route..

I have my doubts on Darvish returning and or being affective ...
If he does, Monty goes to pen for rest of season which would eliminate the need of another mid reliever..

Come postseason, guess you get your choice to pick which starter you want in the 4th spot for a series between Hamel and Darvish, with the other going to the pen or sitting it out

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[beckdawg]

I read the opposite...

Cubs would eat the rest of his 20 mil owed this year for a lesser return..

Next is a buyout year for 6 mil if they wanna go that route..

I have my doubts on Darvish returning and or being affective ...
If he does, Monty goes to pen for rest of season which would eliminate the need of another mid reliever..

Come postseason, guess you get your choice to pick which starter you want in the 4th spot for a series between Hamel and Darvish, with the other going to the pen or sitting it out

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Joel Sherman
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@Joelsherman1
Between rest of salary this yr plus buyout on 2019 option, Hamels owed roughly $14.2M. Hear that if deal with #Cubs goes thru they will pick up about $4M and give up secondary prospects. But NO deal is in place yet, Cubs just more involved than other suitors.

2:06 PM - Jul 26, 2018
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Joel Sherman
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@Joelsherman1
Just got it in an even stronger way that Hamels to #Cubs has a real chance to be concluded, possibly even today. Chi does not have deep system, but #Rangers just looking to get out of any $, get some prospects. Chi would take on about $4M of $14.2M owed.

4:52 PM - Jul 26, 2018

This is what i saw.

 

[beckdawg]

Also fwiw, Hamels has a 20 team no trade clause which the cubs aren't on. So, that makes texas' leverage diminished quite a bit given there's only 9 teams they don't need his approval to deal him to.

 

[chibears55]

This is what i saw.

Ok.. ill go with yours, i looked back at what i saw and noticed it was a random poster feeding off Sherman tweet, saying cubs will pick up most of the money owed for a lesser return..

Guess we'll see, just hoping they get someone to upgrade the rotation over Chatwood..

Just saw Happ was traded to Yankees..

Nats just informed MLB theyll let them know by Sunday if they intend to break the team up ( become sellers)..



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[beckdawg]

Ken Rosenthal
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@Ken_Rosenthal
Sources confirm #Cubs’ pursuit of #Rangers’ Hamels, as first reported by @Joelsherman1. Along with low acquisition cost, this would be CHC’s rationale:

Hamels at home this season: 6.41 ERA, 16 HRs, 59 IP.

Hamels on road: 2.93 ERA, 7 HRs, 55.1 IP.