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yeah, no Perlini, only a million left and he wont sign for that.

At least from my view it looks like at least two forwards get to battle for the bottom line to get another K line.
is that official? I can live with a Lehner instead of Perlini situation but at some point you have to just play to move AA out of the way...Perlini is a first rounder type with good body...and a RFA only

I don't think they lost him yet and can match RFA...

I expect them to match...probably salary cap dump of a Saad/AA/Seabrook...

If we paid a 2nd and 3rd for Shaw...factor in a first if we lost Perlinin because of it too. Not just a first, but a developed first.
 

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well I'll be happy when Perlini is in the fold on 1-2 years, 1-3,000,000 somewhere
 

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They can match him, but would need to move a pretty big number.

That LTIR for Crawford sounds like the right idea, just dont know if they can do it or would have to move the contract like they did with Hossa, and take some bad numbers back.
 

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ahhh...

something is up with 1 of AA/Sad/Crow/Seabs/Murphy/Perlini
 

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Don't worry about any players we don't sign they'll be back in a few years

I don't think its an issue and honestly not a big deal for this club with potential guys Kucherov, Kubalik, HIghmore, Martini, Sikura, Saarela, Q, Dach and more who can probably do 75-90% of Perlini right now...much less when a few guys improve or Barrett/Dach come back next year.

My feeling on him was Perlini is RFA, they already said they will resign, and his slot is 2 year 2,000,000 or so.

Goaltending is only secure for 12 months...so I prefer players on that extra year right now so we are sure to have cap for Cat/Strome/goaltending...

Stan has done a good job of preparing everything else to stand pat or sell from while a couple more big contracts fall off the books.

Overall I think it looks good...should make playoffs the next 4 years depending on how you solve goaltending...hopefully Lehner/Nalimov and the new Finish cat are all involved in that. The rest of the team will be strong outside of injury to Kane or Toews and a slow defense.
 

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The team, as currently constructed, is a marginal playoff qualifier, likely to get trounced in the first round.

This has been a much better offseason than last year’s debacle, but the talent disparity between the Hawks and the real contenders is not insignificant. We are at best a couple years away, perhaps 3-4 from really challenging for the Cup.

The Blues’ run was a freakish anomaly and is probably creating waves of false hope.
 

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The team, as currently constructed, is a marginal playoff qualifier, likely to get trounced in the first round.

This has been a much better offseason than last year’s debacle, but the talent disparity between the Hawks and the real contenders is not insignificant. We are at best a couple years away, perhaps 3-4 from really challenging for the Cup.

The Blues’ run was a freakish anomaly and is probably creating waves of false hope.

Well they had the goaltender quotient. I know what NHL playoff talent and depth look like having followed the Hawks for this amazing decade closely, and living in Avalanche/golden knights territory...following the central in general last 5 years illuminates the cut-off.

This is a 5-9 seed team with good to great goaltending that should make playoffs a near given if one of crow/lehner are healthy. This goaltending feauture and Toews/Kane qualities are what make the Hawks a playoff nuisance to whoever they face.

no reason to throw out all hope.
 

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Well they had the goaltender quotient. I know what NHL playoff talent and depth look like having followed the Hawks for this amazing decade closely, and living in Avalanche/golden knights territory...following the central in general last 5 years illuminates the cut-off.

This is a 5-9 seed team with good to great goaltending that should make playoffs a near given if one of crow/lehner are healthy. This goaltending feauture and Toews/Kane qualities are what make the Hawks a playoff nuisance to whoever they face.

no reason to throw out all hope.

Hope exists, but so does reality. We do not have a quality #1-#2 D tandem, and the bottom-6 forwards are still subpar. Overall still too small and slow.
 

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Hope exists, but so does reality. We do not have a quality #1-#2 D tandem, and the bottom-6 forwards are still subpar. Overall still too small and slow.
Well...I think 2020-1 season projects really well if Barrett/Dach/Kucherov all came into the fold.
The problem is goaltending becomes unclear after this season...

I think we compete, make the playoffs...and we will see what old guys have left in 2019-20...just get in the touney...no talk of this guaranteed first round exit. Just get back there and fight.

After this season I am only concerned about goaltending
 

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Well...I think 2020-1 season projects really well if Barrett/Dach/Kucherov all came into the fold.
The problem is goaltending becomes unclear after this season...

I think we compete, make the playoffs...and we will see what old guys have left in 2019-20...just get in the touney...no talk of this guaranteed first round exit. Just get back there and fight.

After this season I am only concerned about goaltending
The problem is the aging core that can just totally crap out at any second and consist of half your cap.
 

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Well...I think 2020-1 season projects really well if Barrett/Dach/Kucherov all came into the fold.
The problem is goaltending becomes unclear after this season...

I think we compete, make the playoffs...and we will see what old guys have left in 2019-20...just get in the touney...no talk of this guaranteed first round exit. Just get back there and fight.

After this season I am only concerned about goaltending

Should goaltending be unclear? Lankinen, Nalimov, Delia. with DeHaas, Maata, Murphy, Seabrook and Keith here in a group for 3 more seasons? Maybe its time to embrace the rebuild process.
I am pretty sure someone is going to end up like Daley and be a never fit in the system guy, and Bowman will get away with trading him yet again.
 

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The problem is the aging core that can just totally crap out at any second and consist of half your cap.
Kane had a personal best year last year and we still don't even give him the best line we have.
 

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Should goaltending be unclear? Lankinen, Nalimov, Delia. with DeHaas, Maata, Murphy, Seabrook and Keith here in a group for 3 more seasons? Maybe its time to embrace the rebuild process.
I am pretty sure someone is going to end up like Daley and be a never fit in the system guy, and Bowman will get away with trading him yet again.

That is fine...Lankinen and Nalimov probbaly good but can they achieve Crow/Lehner level which is what is required to hunt a cup.

Look....3 contracts are now hurting the Hawks significantly. Seabs, Saad, and AA.

They each add something to the team...AA will be gone within 12 months. Seabs is still the biggest guy on our team, has offense, does some things well. Saad should be getting Shaw money...or maybe Kampf money.
 

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If Perlini asked for 2,000,000 or 2,500,000 and club response was to trade for Shaw would everyone be ok with that?
 

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I'm with Stan that Seabrook gets a bit of a bad rap. He can do alot of different things, he just stopped hitting people after he put Backus in a coma and was made a villain.

But Murphy/Dahlstrom/KK/Gus need to all make way eventually then for youth
 

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Seabroke does get a bad rap, buy he knows he has slowed down, he knows he cant keep up anymore, and he thinks he is putting himself in position where he does not end up having to chase.
No, the seabroke problem is all on Bowman. Why would anyone give out a contract, 1.3 million higher than one of the best defenders the franchise has ever had?

They say nobody would have turned down that deal, where I say, you got the deal, now pay it back by waiving the NMC.
 

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