2021 Cubs trade deadline thread

[beckdawg]

Apparently turner and scherzer to the dodgers is happening... will be interesting to SF/SD's response

 

[Diehardfan]

Whoa....in a couple years this Cub team is gonna be a completely different type of team. It looks like Hoyer is going after players that won't rely on the wind blowing out to score some runs. Theoritically, a sound plan....just need the players to develop.

 

[TL1961]

You are going to celebrate every trade like I said you would…. Not suprised.

Yeah, that was quite the "celebration".

 

[knoxville7]

This guy pounding his chest over every single prospect we get lol. We were always going to get something but to you we are getting starters for next year and fleecing everybody. You haven't said one bad thing about a single trade so far ?

We will trade Bryant and Kimbrel for peanuts. Nobody wants Rizzo. Contreras maybe. Baez hopefully. We have a lot of junk nobody wants and this isn’t a great year for sellers

Rizzo has quickly turned to trash…. nobody wants this loser

interesting…it’s been your take this whole time that rizzo would get us nothing. That nobody wanted him.

now, it’s “wE wEr AlWaYzz GuNnA giT sUmThIn 4 HiM”

tell me more things that you “no” to be true

 

[TL1961]

Apparently turner and scherzer to the dodgers is happening... will be interesting to SF/SD's response

Remember when Ricketts told us we would soon be like the Yankees and Dodgers?

The Cubs would be big players and flush with cash?

Seems they are acquiring players, while we are dumping them. Maybe it's just me.

 

[knoxville7]

Trade grades: Yankees continue deadline spree by acquiring Anthony Rizzo from Cubs

New York followed up adding Joey Gallo by dealing for one of Chicago's most popular players. What does the swap mean for both sides?

www.espn.com

Yankees given a grade of B
Cubs given grade of A-

but cubs didn’t come out well in this trade according to @jts1207

 

[TL1961]

Whoa....in a couple years this Cub team is gonna be a completely different type of team. It looks like Hoyer is going after players that won't rely on the wind blowing out to score some runs. Theoritically, a sound plan....just need the players to develop.

You're basing that evaluation on which player we acquired?

The power hitting LH OF yesterday? Or the CF today? The other three players acquired are pitchers.

 

[Diehardfan]

Younger and possessing a higher ceiling than most of the prospects in the 2018 international class, Alcantara signed out of the Dominican Republic for $1 million when he turned 16 on July 12. At the start of the Rookie-level Gulf Coast League season in June 2019, he was the lone 16-year-old on a U.S.-based Minor League team. His only real development last year came at the Yankees' Dominican instructional league program.

Built like a younger Dexter Fowler, Alcantara now approaches 200 pounds and could have plus tools across the board once he fills out and gains more experience. His bat speed, projectable strength and leverage give him well above-average power from the right side of the plate and produce some of the highest exit velocities in the system. He made a reasonable amount of contact in his 2019 pro debut but will need to improve his discipline when he faces more advanced pitchers.

A plus runner, Alcantara covers plenty of ground in center field with long, fluid strides. If he slows down as he adds strength and needs to move to a corner, his solid arm strength would fit nicely in right field. Besides his tools, his baseball IQ and work ethic also earn praise from the Yankees.

You seem to knoe a lot about this guy....I know nothing about him. Does he fit the mold as a potential lead off guy?

 

[TL1961]

I love the reaction of knuckleheads on Twitter when they learn that teams in contention don't send back major leaguers. ?

 

[beckdawg]

Another thought... given the yankee's payroll it's also probably unlikely rizzo re-signs. Seems like a pure rental

 

[JP Hochbaum]

I don't understand the people upset by this new rebuild. The team has done nothing since 2016 and has had a massive regression since 2017.

The reason why our core is being traded is because the core failed at being consistent. And it is completely moronic to pay for that. And/or to add more bad contracts to a team that didn't show they could contend.

 

[TL1961]

Another thought... given the yankee's payroll it's also probably unlikely rizzo re-signs. Seems like a pure rental

That seems to be the consensus from what I have read thus far, albeit early reactions. Hope they keep Voit so he is their 2022 guy.

I would absolutely LOVE IT if the Cubs signed him back and pulled a "Chapman" on the Yanks.

 

[TL1961]

I don't understand the people upset by this new rebuild. The team has done nothing since 2016 and has had a massive regression since 2017.

The reason why our core is being traded is because the core failed at being consistent. And it is completely moronic to pay for that. And/or to add more bad contracts to a team that didn't show they could contend.

I am not upset that they are trading now.

But I am upset that three or four years ago we were told the Cubs were a couple years away from being like the Yanks, BoSox and Dodgers, and would be in play for every big time player.

The Yankees and Dodgers are acquiring players today, and the cheap ass Ricketts are selling. Apparently selling TD Ameritrade for billions wasn't enough.

 

[Diehardfan]

You're basing that evaluation on which player we acquired?

The power hitting LH OF yesterday? Or the CF today? The other three players acquired are pitchers.

Actually it's based more on what they are moving and what they will have left when the smoke clears. In the last 6 or 7 months they will have moved Schwarber, Rizzo, Peterson and probably Bryant....that's over 100 HRs a year. I'm not seeing any big HR guys replacing them....so they have to have more of a station to station offense.

 

[jts1207]

interesting…it’s been your take this whole time that rizzo would get us nothing. That nobody wanted him.

now, it’s “wE wEr AlWaYzz GuNnA giT sUmThIn 4 HiM”

tell me more things that you “no” to be true

Everyone we get is going to be awesome for you ….I get it

 

[jts1207]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1420902496151691268

 

[knoxville7]

In other words…Mets have been frustrated by asking prices, but inevitably will give in to them by the deadline

 

[jts1207]

In other words…Mets have been frustrated by asking prices, but inevitably will give in to them by the deadline

Lmao

 

[TL1961]

Actually it's based more on what they are moving and what they will have left when the smoke clears. In the last 6 or 7 months they will have moved Schwarber, Rizzo, Peterson and probably Bryant....that's over 100 HRs a year. I'm not seeing any big HR guys replacing them....so they have to have more of a station to station offense.

There's no place for that in today's game, though I wish there were. But if you are playing major league ball in this decade and not hitting HRs, you're screwed.

I think the OF they got yesterday is not likely to be a full time starter, but is a power guy. The CF they got today has some. We'll see.

I am all for OBP, but nobody's playing "small ball" and winning these days.

 

[TL1961]

In other words…Mets have been frustrated by asking prices, but inevitably will give in to them by the deadline

A GM who tries to sell the fanbase of a team that didn't get it done on the idea "the prices seemed too high" won't last long.