A 9th planet has been discovered in our solar system

Tjodalv

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In Bot's defense, Brett really does own ignorance. If we randomly encountered an individual from the 9th century he/she would be eerily Brettish...
 

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On a side note. Gravity is a constant... I know all mass creates it and we see what it does, etc

Forgive me if this is a stupid question but do we know how/why mass creates gravity?

Would be a heck of a thing to control.

You could rearrange the whole universe.
 

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You own ignorance is cannot be used

That's what Marty was messing with Bot about...

Yes I know that as I quoted it in post 36. It's still a relevant and fair statement to make as Bret's comment clearly exhibited ignorance of the importance of gravity in finding evidence of objects in space. Don't care about the grammar if that is what you guys are harping on as anyone with a brain can understand what Bot meant.
 

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On a side note. Gravity is a constant... I know all mass creates it and we see what it does, etc

Forgive me if this is a stupid question but do we know how/why mass creates gravity?

Would be a heck of a thing to control.

Because of the curvature of space. If you picture space is like a bedsheet suspended in the air and you place a ball on the sheet, the ball will depress the sheet down and that curve means any object around that ball is going to fall towards it. That in a nutshell is what mass does. It curves or bends the bedsheet that is space and in so doing creates gravity. The larger the object, the greater the curve or bend creating. Bear in mind this is a very simple and flawed analogy as it doesn't quite explain things accurately but it's the most common in trying to explain the complicated physics behind it all.

That is why black holes are theorized to create wormholes because in theory you get an object with sufficient mass such as a black hole which is incredible dense and you can rip a hole in space which think about it like that bedsheet and you fold the bet sheet and the two ends that were on the opposite side of each other are now touching and hence you traveled from one end to the sheet to the other in theory faster than then speed of light not by you yourself moving but by creating such concentrated amount of mass at a given point in space that space folds in on itself bringing to distant points together for a time.

The longstanding mystery in science is the calculations for gracity really only work on a large scale. When you try to calculate the effect of gravity on a small scale, the math doesn't work which is why when scientists talk about a theory of everything what they are talking about is trying to come up with a theory that unifies gravity with the other 3 forces ie electromagnetic, strong, and weak nuclear force. The problem in doing so is that gravity appears so weak that it's hard to measure in smaller particles as if you think about it you have the whole mass of the Earth pulling on you and yet you are alive. If by contrast it was an equivalent level of the other three forces interacting with you then you would be obliterated.

One of the current theories is that gravity is so weak because it is interdimensional and so its force bleeds into other dimensions and what we are seeing in the dimensions we can observe is just a fraction of its power. And scientists have theorized that a gravitron is a particle even smaller than electrons and protons and it is this particle that causes gravity but so far it has never been observed.
 

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Yes I know that as I quoted it in post 36. It's still a relevant and fair statement to make as Bret's comment clearly exhibited ignorance of the importance of gravity in finding evidence of objects in space. Don't care about the grammar if that is what you guys are harping on as anyone with a brain can understand what Bot meant.

I was referring to post 30. Thought you missed the joke.
 

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Nope, it was willed into existence by a being that magically appeared for no fucking reason! Get your shit straight!

i thought this was universe simulator 1.0... the matrix.. whatevers you want to call it... where the makers came from?... ur guess is as good as mine..

OR maybe this is all in my head.. im the alpha and omega.. if i parish... you all will surely vanish...
 

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Bowie dies; new planet discovered. Coincidence?
 

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i thought this was universe simulator 1.0... the matrix.. whatevers you want to call it... where the makers came from?... ur guess is as good as mine..

OR maybe this is all in my head.. im the alpha and omega.. if i parish... you all will surely vanish...

Probably from another universe. As the below suggests there is evidence that the Big Bang that created this universe wasn't the first Big Bang and that there were several big bangs before this.

http://m.phys.org/news/2010-11-scientists-glimpse-universe-big.html

As for where the makers came from, the reality is no matter what you believe (God or Big Bang), the fact is there has always been something that sprang from nothing for lack of a better term.
 

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Bowie dies; new planet discovered. Coincidence?
Yes. It's actually because of Alan Rickman that this was discovered.

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On a side note. Gravity is a constant... I know all mass creates it and we see what it does, etc

Forgive me if this is a stupid question but do we know how/why mass creates gravity?

Would be a heck of a thing to control.

The answer to your question is obviously Jesus.
 

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I was referring to post 30. Thought you missed the joke.


He did. The inter web is completely cereal to that guy.

No joke was missed. I didn't care about the joke because I saw it as an attempt by McFly to cover for his fellow nutty brother in the Lord Brett by taking the focus off of Bret's obvious ignorance that Bot rightly called.

McFly obviously ignored the point Bot was making to make his joke so I am under no obligation to acknowledge his dumb joke rather than point out that Bot was exactly right.
 

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Yes I know that as I quoted it in post 36. It's still a relevant and fair statement to make as Bret's comment clearly exhibited ignorance of the importance of gravity in finding evidence of objects in space. Don't care about the grammar if that is what you guys are harping on as anyone with a brain can understand what Bot meant.

That's the irony.
And no, you are jumping to conclusions, but I would expect nothing less.
 

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That's the irony.
And no, you are jumping to conclusions, but I would expect nothing less.

Not sure how I am jumping to conclusions.

Well, that's just a guess. They reported that the planet is 10-20 times farther out than Pluto, is a gas planet and is about the size of Neptune. Like many, that's a head scratcher to say they detect it's gravitational pull.

The above is what you said. If you want to clarify what you meant by the bold then feel free.
 

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Not sure how I am jumping to conclusions.



The above is what you said. If you want to clarify what you meant by the bold then feel free.
I have no issues that they detect affects of gravity. That they know what caused that is the issue.
 

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I have no issues that they detect affects of gravity. That they know what caused that is the issue.

Well then you probably should have worded the statement to reflect the fact that you were doubting the conclusion that the gravitational pull detected was from a planet because as it reads your statement suggests your concern is with the detection of the gravitational pull and not with the attributing said gravitational pull to a planet.

And I don't think any claims to KNOW hence why the articles read as follows.

Ninth planet may have been discovered, researchers say - http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/20/us/possible-ninth-planet/
Evidence of a real ninth planet discovered - http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/01/160120114539.htm

Finally, you do realize that black holes are detected primarily by their gravitational pull right? And closer to home, you do realize you believe in God despite not being able to directly see him? Just seems odd that you seem to need to be able to see this planet in order to believe the evidence but oh well.
 

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That thread title doe. But "may" and "evidence" doesn't get clicks.

I still like the artist rendering of the planet they may or may not have found
 

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