A 9th planet has been discovered in our solar system

[remydat]

That thread title doe. But "may" and "evidence" doesn't get clicks.

I still like the artist rendering of the planet they may or may not have found

Not as cool as the depictions of a God that may or may not exist.

 

[Tjodalv]

Not as cool as the depictions of a God that may or may not exist.

?

 

[brett05]

Well then you probably should have worded the statement to reflect the fact that you were doubting the conclusion that the gravitational pull detected was from a planet because as it reads your statement suggests your concern is with the detection of the gravitational pull and not with the attributing said gravitational pull to a planet.

Given the topic of the thread it should be obvious what was being talked about.

And I don't think any claims to KNOW hence why the articles read as follows.

Ninth planet may have been discovered, researchers say - http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/20/us/possible-ninth-planet/

No debate on it's existance, it's about how much bigger than Pluto. From your article:
"Already, Caltech is pretty confident Planet Nine is large enough to rule out any debate about whether it's a true planet -- unlike Pluto, which got the boot in 2006."

Evidence of a real ninth planet discovered - http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/01/160120114539.htm

Brown, well known for the significant role he played in the demotion of Pluto from a planet to a dwarf planet adds, "All those people who are mad that Pluto is no longer a planet can be thrilled to know that there is a real planet out there still to be found," he says. "Now we can go and find this planet and make the solar system have nine planets once again."

And closer to home, you do realize you believe in God despite not being able to directly see him? Just seems odd that you seem to need to be able to see this planet in order to believe the evidence but oh well.

:smh:

 

[brett05]

Not as cool as the depictions of a God that may or may not exist.

I'll defend your right to your religious belief.

 

[remydat]

Given the topic of the thread it should be obvious what was being talked about.



No debate on it's existance, it's about how much bigger than Pluto. From your article:
"Already, Caltech is pretty confident Planet Nine is large enough to rule out any debate about whether it's a true planet -- unlike Pluto, which got the boot in 2006."


Brown, well known for the significant role he played in the demotion of Pluto from a planet to a dwarf planet adds, "All those people who are mad that Pluto is no longer a planet can be thrilled to know that there is a real planet out there still to be found," he says. "Now we can go and find this planet and make the solar system have nine planets once again."



:smh:

A thread topic doesn't preclude you from reading the articles that make it obvious that no one is claiming to KNOW anything. And perhaps you should read the whole article so you can be aware of the context.

"Although we were initially quite skeptical that this planet could exist, as we continued to investigate its orbit and what it would mean for the outer solar system, we become increasingly convinced that it is out there," says Batygin, an assistant professor of planetary science. "For the first time in over 150 years, there is solid evidence that the solar system's planetary census is incomplete."

There is enough statements in the article that make it clear this is an educated conclusion based on the available data. The fact that each and every time they talk about the planet, they don't say, "This is just evidence or we may be proven incorrect," doesn't change the fact that as scientists they are fully aware that this is simply an educated conclusion based on the data. If new data comes in that disputes their findings then they will revise their conclusions. That's the difference between faith and science.

I'll defend your right to your religious belief.

And I will defend yours. That doesn't preclude me from pointing out the irony in people of faith commenting on something that may or may not exist in light of their beliefs.

 

[brett05]

A thread topic doesn't preclude you from reading the articles that make it obvious that no one is claiming to KNOW anything. And perhaps you should read the whole article so you can be aware of the context.

"Although we were initially quite skeptical that this planet could exist, as we continued to investigate its orbit and what it would mean for the outer solar system, we become increasingly convinced that it is out there," says Batygin, an assistant professor of planetary science. "For the first time in over 150 years, there is solid evidence that the solar system's planetary census is incomplete."

There is enough statements in the article that make it clear this is an educated conclusion based on the available data. The fact that each and every time they talk about the planet, they don't say, "This is just evidence or we may be proven incorrect," doesn't change the fact that as scientists they are fully aware that this is simply an educated conclusion based on the data. If new data comes in that disputes their findings then they will revise their conclusions. That's the difference between faith and science.



And I will defend yours. That doesn't preclude me from pointing out the irony in people of faith commenting on something that may or may not exist in light of their beliefs.

At best, it's poorly written about the planet.

 

[remydat]

At best, it's poorly written about the planet.

Not really. I think most understand it and took it for what it was. They don't need to caveat every sentence with, "New evidence might change our conclusions." That is understood when discussing science because that is a fundamental assumption within science. Only faith sticks to things despite evidence to the contrary. Science changes as the observations and evidence change.

 

[xer0h0ur]

Why people waste time on Brett is beyond me.

 

[Xuder O'Clam]

Yep, and it all just magically appeared out of nothing too! For no fucking reason.

That's not the new science. The theory now is that there was no beginning to the universe. No Big Bang, no creation.

 

[Monk]

So we are all clear that science is nothing more than a modern religion right? Depicting their gods in artists renderings and all that. It's just sad this crap gets taught in our schools as if it's true.

 

[Tjodalv]

Why people waste time on Brett is beyond me.

Comedic purposes.

 

[Xuder O'Clam]

So we are all clear that science is nothing more than a modern religion right? Depicting their gods in artists renderings and all that. It's just sad this crap gets taught in our schools as if it's true.

Yes, and maths are arbitrary.

 

[ShiftyDevil]

So we are all clear that science is nothing more than a modern religion right? Depicting their gods in artists renderings and all that. It's just sad this crap gets taught in our schools as if it's true.

Whats actually sad is your 'nothing I say is serious' deal.

 

[Monk]

Whats actually sad is your 'nothing I say is serious' deal.

Sorry you are the internet so serious

 

[Monk]

I'm also sorry shifty and Malcore are butt hurt cause I trolled them into debates that didn't matter

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

That's not the new science. The theory now is that there was no beginning to the universe. No Big Bang, no creation.

So eternal God or eternal universe. Both are pretty crazy IMO.

 

[Ares]

Sorry you are the internet so serious

Shifty srs needs to stop being the fucking internet....

 

[ShiftyDevil]

I'm also sorry shifty and Malcore are butt hurt cause I trolled them into debates that didn't matter

I think you're missing the point, but that's OK.

 

[Monk]

I think you're missing the point, but that's OK.

Quit crying

 

[Xuder O'Clam]

Quit crying

I just wish you were funny again.