A CNM letter To Tom Ricketts

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What's ironic is CO says he has better things to do than watch Cub games.
 

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I'm sorry, but I feel that you just aren't being a true fan by just saying this is it. We just won back to back division titles a few years ago & I know you have seen worse with the trib. Ricketts hasn't even had 2 years to right the ship. Give him a break. Lastly, you support them when they are good but not when they suck? Doesn't sound like a true fan here

Reading comprehension must not be your strong suit.

If you actually read what I said. I offer criticism and some minor praise.
 

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I'm sorry, but I feel that you just aren't being a true fan by just saying this is it. We just won back to back division titles a few years ago & I know you have seen worse with the trib. Ricketts hasn't even had 2 years to right the ship. Give him a break. Lastly, you support them when they are good but not when they suck? Doesn't sound like a true fan here


so a true fan cant have the ability the criticize personnel if he feels that there needs to be improvement?

you cant criticize someone's fandom because they arent happy with the team....

we know ricketts has only been here two years...but he's done a pretty poor job imo....and there's some things we feel he needs to do

and you dont get it we do support the team...THATS WHY WE ARE MAKING THIS SUGGESTION TO RICKETTS

criticism does not equal not supporting the team...
 

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so a true fan cant have the ability the criticize personnel if he feels that there needs to be improvement?

you cant criticize someone's fandom because they arent happy with the team....

we know ricketts has only been here two years...but he's done a pretty poor job imo....and there's some things we feel he needs to do

and you dont get it we do support the team...THATS WHY WE ARE MAKING THIS SUGGESTION TO RICKETTS

criticism does not equal not supporting the team...

You guys keep saying that its only been two years since he been owner but he hasnt done anything to prove that he going to turn it around either.
 

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I think the best we can say is that we don't know what kind of owner Ricketts is going to be long term. I think we can all agree that he has been overly cautious, and I think it is a fair criticism that he has allowed the same front office structure to remain in place. My hope was that Crane Kenney was moved out of the realm of baseball operations and a true President of Baseball Operations was brought in. That would have meant Hendry remaining in place this year most likely for evaluation purposes. That is the one truly fair criticism of Ricketts so far.

To say that we have no signs or direction for this franchise is just plain wrong as well. This team has invested more in the draft and overseas this year than any previous year as far as I am aware. The number of overslot guys we have signed is ridiculous and we inked two Latin American prospects for 7 figure bonuses when we hadn't ever signed one in the past. The Cubs also have amazing facilities in the DR and maintain two teams in the DSL. These are huge positives steps forward in doing what franchises like Boston has done to remain competitive year after year.

Is it frustrating this year? Of course, but the reason the team is this terrible now was put into motion long before Ricketts took over the team. I would love to know what Ricketts is doing, but it doesn't make any sense for him to come out and say that at the end of the season everyone is gone. Hopefully Ricketts is listening to the fact that Gillick has pretty openly stated his interest in that President of Baseball Operations job somewhere. As I said before in this thread, if Kenney and Hendry are left in place and the payroll drops more than 10 million then we can get out the pitchforks.
 

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You guys keep saying that its only been two years since he been owner but he hasnt done anything to prove that he going to turn it around either.

well this is true. There is no direction with this team.

Again, that was a red flag what he told his dad when he was trying to convince him to help out in buying the cubs.
 

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I think the best we can say is that we don't know what kind of owner Ricketts is going to be long term. I think we can all agree that he has been overly cautious, and I think it is a fair criticism that he has allowed the same front office structure to remain in place. My hope was that Crane Kenney was moved out of the realm of baseball operations and a true President of Baseball Operations was brought in. That would have meant Hendry remaining in place this year most likely for evaluation purposes. That is the one truly fair criticism of Ricketts so far.

To say that we have no signs or direction for this franchise is just plain wrong as well. This team has invested more in the draft and overseas this year than any previous year as far as I am aware. The number of overslot guys we have signed is ridiculous and we inked two Latin American prospects for 7 figure bonuses when we hadn't ever signed one in the past. The Cubs also have amazing facilities in the DR and maintain two teams in the DSL. These are huge positives steps forward in doing what franchises like Boston has done to remain competitive year after year.

Is it frustrating this year? Of course, but the reason the team is this terrible now was put into motion long before Ricketts took over the team. I would love to know what Ricketts is doing, but it doesn't make any sense for him to come out and say that at the end of the season everyone is gone. Hopefully Ricketts is listening to the fact that Gillick has pretty openly stated his interest in that President of Baseball Operations job somewhere. As I said before in this thread, if Kenney and Hendry are left in place and the payroll drops more than 10 million then we can get out the pitchforks.

Ok, than tell me and the nation what the direction is than.
 

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Half the issue was still being handcuffed by the bankruptcy issues in his first year, and these bloated contracts this year and some for next.

My stance was you can not fully start to have serious expectations til 2013 at the earliest when the only damning contract left will be Soriano's.
 

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Ok, than tell me and the nation what the direction is than.

Building through the draft and overseas is the direction that Ricketts has openly stated he wanted to do. I didn't say he had a genius plan and that we should be uncritical. But to ignore the things I pointed out in my post after the part you bolded is wrong as well.
 

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i think the cubs do have a direction..but that doesnt mean it isnt hard to tell what ricketts and the cubs FO are really planning at this point..


i think/hope we will see some idea form in the next couple of months or in the offseason(would love to get a fielder/pujols or a pitcher....of course that would be a step..but it wouldnt necessarily bring us to the playoffs..either way it should be interesting to see what happens)
 

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i think the cubs do have a direction..but that doesnt mean it isnt hard to tell what ricketts and the cubs FO are really planning at this point..


i think/hope we will see some idea form in the next couple of months or in the offseason(would love to get a fielder/pujols or a pitcher....of course that would be a step..but it wouldnt necessarily bring us to the playoffs..either way it should be interesting to see what happens)

I agree and many others have stated that this coming offseason is going to be the first real big indicator of what Ricketts wants to do. All I have tried to point out is there have been some pretty dramatic shifts in philosophy by the Cubs that many seem to ignore.
 

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Building through the draft and overseas is the direction that Ricketts has openly stated he wanted to do. I didn't say he had a genius plan and that we should be uncritical. But to ignore the things I pointed out in my post after the part you bolded is wrong as well.

that was my thought as well..

i still want to know what he and the FO are going to do with some of our guys like pena,soriano,etc. and what he is really going after in the offseason

from my perspective, im really not sure
 

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that was my thought as well..

i still want to know what he and the FO are going to do with some of our guys like pena,soriano,etc. and what he is really going after in the offseason

from my perspective, im really not sure

I don't know either, and if the plan was all along to let Hendry finish out his contract with a lower payroll next year. Then what Hendry has done in hanging onto nice but useless beyond a year or two pieces is stupid. I just don't think we know that for sure yet.
 

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Just really frustrating to see guys that obviously have trade value and we aren't moving them when its obvious we are so far away..

Just amazing.
 

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The only guy that seems to be in this category is Marlon Byrd. Pena appears to have virtually no value given that there were only two teams that were interested and one of them gave up very little to get Derrek Lee. The only other guys that have value is Ramirez (who has 10-5 rights and can block any deal) or the two young good relievers we have in Marmol and Marshall.
 

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The only guy that seems to be in this category is Marlon Byrd. Pena appears to have virtually no value given that there were only two teams that were interested and one of them gave up very little to get Derrek Lee. The only other guys that have value is Ramirez (who has 10-5 rights and can block any deal) or the two young good relievers we have in Marmol and Marshall.

Again, no beat writers or fans know the actual amount of teams interested. Im not sure if you know this, but ALOT of stuff doesnt come out of the front office. so to say there was a only a couple of teams interested and taking that is fact, is, well just dumb
 

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Again, no beat writers or fans know the actual amount of teams interested. Im not sure if you know this, but ALOT of stuff doesnt come out of the front office. so to say there was a only a couple of teams interested and taking that is fact, is, well just dumb

I heard yesterday that the Braves were looking into him after they lost out on Pence. But there were the only team that I heard.
 

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Again, no beat writers or fans know the actual amount of teams interested. Im not sure if you know this, but ALOT of stuff doesnt come out of the front office. so to say there was a only a couple of teams interested and taking that is fact, is, well just dumb

I am aware that I don't know everything that goes on in the front office of teams. Answer me this though do you think that Carlos Pena was valued more highly than Derrek Lee by teams? Because my guess is we don't know, and so to evaluate Jim Hendry based upon trading Pena or not is pointless. Because if the value that one could get back is what Derrek Lee got back then I don't blame Hendry for not trading Pena.
 

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I'm sorry, but I feel that you just aren't being a true fan by just saying this is it. We just won back to back division titles a few years ago & I know you have seen worse with the trib. Ricketts hasn't even had 2 years to right the ship. Give him a break. Lastly, you support them when they are good but not when they suck? Doesn't sound like a true fan here


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Give it a rest CO. If you want to settle for division titles that's your prerogative. Not one Cubs fan in the world should feel the need to give any person in the Cubs' brass a break no matter how long they've been in the organization, not when you haven't won a World Series in 103 years. These people running the organization aren't responsible for all of those years obviously but given the fact that it's been over a century, management needs to move with a sense of urgency to make this team a World Series winner.
 

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