A CNM letter To Tom Ricketts

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A CNM letter to Tom Ricketts

The back-end of the rotation was marred by injuries until now, and Cashner is all but done for the year.

Signing Fielder would be OK, he's better than Pena, but he and Wilson won't win the Cubs 20 games alone.

Why pay Kubel? I'd rather pay Byrd.

Replacing Coleman/Davis/Lopez with Wilson would probably win us 20 games.

Yes, I meant trade Byrd. He is just not that good.
 

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A CNM letter to Tom Ricketts

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We are inconsistent... we can never build a long-term winner. BUT it seems that we have finally added some consistency, becoming a long-term loser.

how is six winning seasons out of ten becoming a "long-term loser"?

Sure it's been a rough two seasons but that doesn't mean this team is fucked for the long term. I'll be shocked if the 2012 Cubs don't win more than the 2011 ones.
 

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how is six winning seasons out of ten becoming a "long-term loser"?

Sure it's been a rough two seasons but that doesn't mean this team is fucked for the long term. I'll be shocked if the 2012 Cubs don't win more than the 2011 ones.

How?

Are we really gonna count on a bunch of young players? Or are we gonna be able to spend and get a bunch?

Idk.. We're really on the fence if you ask me.
 

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A CNM letter to Tom Ricketts

How?

Are we really gonna count on a bunch of young players? Or are we gonna be able to spend and get a bunch?

Idk.. We're really on the fence if you ask me.

Because this team is simply not "this" bad. It's not a good team but it's not third worst in baseball bad either.

Even standing pat I think it's a 70 win team next year.

The starting pitching simply isnt this bad and thats really the only BAD part of this team. No parts of the tram are particularly good but the starting pitching is what's been bad and it won't be this bad again. It just can't be.
 

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Because this team is simply not "this" bad. It's not a good team but it's not third worst in baseball bad either.

Even standing pat I think it's a 70 win team next year.

The starting pitching simply isnt this bad and thats really the only BAD part of this team. No parts of the tram are particularly good but the starting pitching is what's been bad and it won't be this bad again. It just can't be.

70 win = 90 loss.

I guess I'm not that optimistic on the pitching..

We keep Garza, Z, Demp.. that's not terrible but not even close to optimal.

We don't know what were gonna get out of Cash..

Wells is never consistent.


No way in hell we should be pulling random old guys off the scrapheap like we have.

Gonna have to go sign at least on SP then let Wells and Cash fight it out Farnsworth v Paul Wilson style for the 5th spot.

Bullpen.. idk the back end is nice as long as they are used more than once or twice a month.
 

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how is six winning seasons out of ten becoming a "long-term loser"?

Sure it's been a rough two seasons but that doesn't mean this team is fucked for the long term. I'll be shocked if the 2012 Cubs don't win more than the 2011 ones.

The long-term loser is because we are NOWHERE close to even competing for a division title. And that was just a response to the part that we'd never had a long-term winner, our longest streak was 3. But we usually lose a bunch of wins in the next season after a really good season.
 

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Replacing Coleman/Davis/Lopez with Wilson would probably win us 20 games.

Yes, I meant trade Byrd. He is just not that good.
Kubel isn't any better than Byrd, in fact I'd argue that Byrd is better than Kubel.

Byrd isn't a star player on a great team, but he fits the bill as a solid 5 tool player on a great team.
 

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Kubel isn't any better than Byrd, in fact I'd argue that Byrd is better than Kubel.

Byrd isn't a star player on a great team, but he fits the bill as a solid 5 tool player on a great team.

I'm sorry Byrd is a nice player but you don't use the term 5 tool to describe him. The only tool that he does at an above average rate is hit for average, maybe since his .310 average is a career high right now. He has hit more than 12 homeruns in a season exactly one time. He has never stolen more than a 11 bases in a season. His defense is average in terms of range and arm. Byrd is a nice player, but lets not oversell him here.
 

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I'm sorry Byrd is a nice player but you don't use the term 5 tool to describe him. The only tool that he does at an above average rate is hit for average, maybe since his .310 average is a career high right now. He has hit more than 12 homeruns in a season exactly one time. He has never stolen more than a 11 bases in a season. His defense is average in terms of range and arm. Byrd is a nice player, but lets not oversell him here.

I don't know where to check ISO, but what is his? ISO or Slugging are things I'd rather use than HR.
 

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I don't know where to check ISO, but what is his? ISO or Slugging are things I'd rather use than HR.

He has never posted a SLG higher than .479 and his career SLG is .424. His career high in ISO is .196, but his career is .141. Byrd isn't devoid of power, but to say he is above average for power is silly.
 
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He has never posted a SLG higher than .479 and his career SLG is .424. Byrd isn't devoid of power, but to say he is above average for power is silly.

Ya, I wouldn't call him above average at power by any means.
 

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He can steal, play good/great defense, hit for average, hit for power and get on base. He's not the best, but he's a solid player and is better than Kubel. Solid doesn't mean great, it means the player replacing Byrd has to be much better in all 5 tools.
 

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Ya, Byrd > Kubel
 

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He can do all of those things, but not very often is the key point. He is a guy who doesn't do anything that poorly but he also doesn't do anything exceptionally well either. The only tool that Byrd has is perhaps hitting for average, and that is pretty debatable. That doesn't mean Byrd is useless, but just a statement of what he is as a player.
 

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I'm not here proclaiming Byrd is an all-star, MVP candidate on a 100 win team. I'm saying he's a solid role player who preforms the 5 tools of baseball well enough, and shouldn't be depended on to carry a team.
 

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c'mon co you are better than this.

You know damn well that doesn't net us 20 wins.

Even vintage Pedro doesn't net us 20 wins. Five to seven wins is much more realistic.

Poodski is that you?

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Byrd is a good player but no more then a role player. He should be a 6 or 7 hole hitter in a good lineup.
 

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A CNM letter to Tom Ricketts

70 win = 90 loss.

I guess I'm not that optimistic on the pitching..

We keep Garza, Z, Demp.. that's not terrible but not even close to optimal.

We don't know what were gonna get out of Cash..

Wells is never consistent.


No way in hell we should be pulling random old guys off the scrapheap like we have.

Gonna have to go sign at least on SP then let Wells and Cash fight it out Farnsworth v Paul Wilson style for the 5th spot.

Bullpen.. idk the back end is nice as long as they are used more than once or twice a month.

Sorry can't really break this up since I'm on my phone.

Yeah I know 70 wins isn't good but we are on pace for like 65 this year. And thats me thinking like lemehieu at third and LaHair at first. This team will be better record wise next year because no way we can have this many injuries again.

I still think demp z garza is a decent top three. It's not Philly Angels Giants or Oakland good but it's average to above average.

I wouldn't mind grabbing another starter and having wells/cash fight it out but I still think going forward we have bigger issues than our rotation.

As far as bullpen. I'm comfortable with it. I have confidence in 5 guys (marms, marsh, wood, shark, and Russell). 6 and 7 suck but most teams do.
 

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