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lol baseball ignorance at its finest. soler is probably the right age though right?
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lol baseball ignorance at its finest. soler is probably the right age though right?
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lol baseball ignorance at its finest. soler is probably the right age though right?
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Yep, and he's 1 of a dozen young guys we're bringing up.
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lol baseball ignorance at its finest. soler is probably the right age though right?
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LOLOLOL CUZ HE'S CUBAN, RIGHT?!
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Great baseball knowledge right there. [emoji2] Especially enjoyed how you chose to ignore small details, like the Sox bullpen implosion and bout of injuries that sent the team into a nosedive. They still had the ROY and a Cy Young candidate on the roster. The Cubs just had a lousy roster last year. So yeah, win totals were the same, but the reasons why couldn't be any more different.
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Yeah. The Cubs had a guy named Veras in their bullpen, too.
Good teams overcome injuries. Your team has no one in MiLB who can help.
So without them, they would have been much worse than the Cubs.
Yeah. It was so lousy, they improved upon the prior season record and got the A's #1 prospect back in a trade. They were so lousy, that outside of a very poor start, the team essentially played .500 baseball for most of the season.
That's right. One team has a farm system loaded with talent they didn't want to block.
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so playing .500 baseball the rest of the season means something. ****, the sox held onto the division for most of 2012 and we still knew they sucked. happy during the time but werent "zomfgz we are awesomez" in 2013 with pretty much the same roster we went the other way. each season is different. if you want to hold onto .5oo than please do so.
bullpens are crap shoots with exceptions to a few.
you got the As number 1 prospect. sweet! again what has he proven? do you not think that some of these players will turn out to be brett jackson,vitters,patterson,hill,walton...be real for once.
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I've said it before I honestly have no ill will for the sox. But if I had to give an honest assessment it would be I don't think they have enough offense. Eaton, Melky, LaRoche and Abreu probably makes up a decent 1-4. However, after that it gets some what sparse. Ramirez, Bonifacio(assume he's 2B) and Gillaspie are all below average. Flowers is well below average. Garcia like most of the cubs players is a giant question mark. This is especially true when you're talking depth. If any of the top 4 guys goes down that line up gets pretty ugly pretty fast. There's no real game changing offensive players in the minors. Micah Johnson could be ready but he's not really exceedingly better than Bonifacio. Their starting pitching may be tops in the AL and probably is top 5 in baseball especially if Rodon is ready soonish. Bullpens are anyones guess. Overall, if the Sox were an NL team I think they'd fair better this coming season but as an AL team I think they will struggle to score runs and even though they have a really nice staff I'm not sure they can pitch themselves out of that where as if they were in the NL scoring runs would less important given the lack of DH.
With the cubs everything comes down to what they get out of their young offensive players. Their pitching should be good possibly even better if Hammels and Arrieta weren't flukes. I could easily see them wining 70ish games, 80ish games 85ish games depending on how well their prospects play.
With the cubs everything comes down to what they get out of their young offensive players. Their pitching should be good possibly even better if Hammels and Arrieta weren't flukes. I could easily see them wining 70ish games, 80ish games 85ish games depending on how well their prospects play.
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I haven't laughed this hard in weeks. God I love Cubs fans.[emoji3]
Please explain to me why you think Alexei Ramirez is below average at anything.
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So, IOW when a Cub fan points out that their "lousy" team with many roster changes throughout the season essentially played .500 ball it equates to "zomfgz we are awesomez"? LOL. You need a new schtick over here. Well...no you don't. I'd miss it. What .500 ball does is it keeps a team hanging in the WC race and it takes one hot streak to get them over the hump to get the WC or in the Cardinals' case sometimes a division.
Agreed.
What the Cubs have is a much better stocked MiLB system than the Sox. That's how the Cardinals keep on top. That's how they overcome injuries. The Sox don't have that luxury. That observation isn't the same as "zomfgz all of our prospectz are teh guaranteed succesz", because that isn't the way prospects work.
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I didn't look that deep into it. On second look he was 8th in fWAR which I guess goes to show the weakness in SS. Regardless, if you look at his OBP the past 3 seasons he has had a .287, .313, and .305. League average in OBP was .314 last season. Keep in mind my statement was I didn't think they had enough offense of which OBP is a very important aspect. Ramirez is a far better defensive player than say Castro which has value. However, if you look at his wRC+ which measures an average hitter at 100, the past 3 seasons Ramirez has been a 72, 86 and 92. He's not Darwin Barney. But to suggest he's a huge plus offensively is overstating what he is. I'd also mention the fact that he'll be 33 next season so it's not as though he's going to get remarkably better.
Also, whatever issues you may have with my statements, if you're going to sit here and suggest the current white sox line up is good offensively I don't really see what there is to debate. This isn't a cubs/sox thing. Based on what we saw last season the cubs lineup probably isn't good either unless their young players make strides. Overall, the Sox have a really nice starting 5 which may even spill over into their bull pen if they can use Rodon there later in the year. But unless they make some more moves on offense I don't see how anyone being objective can say they are a playoff line up.
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Cooperstown bound for sure. :fap:
Cooperstown bound for sure. :fap:
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Fo shizzle. Guy's gonna be coaching his kids at a youth baseball tournament some day.
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Same way yall believe Castro is below average! :X
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Defensively he is, though he's improving a ton. Offensively definitely above average.
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Castro wOBA: .341 #2 on team behind Rizzo's .397.
The reality is he looks good on the Cubs because the team lacks talent. As the youth settles his impact lessens.
But thinking it over I expect the opening day line up to look like:
Career slash:
Fowler CF: .271/.366/.419
Coghlan LF: .270/.340/.404 or Denorfia: .272/.331/.394
Rizzo 1B: .254/.345/.450
Soler RF: .292/.330/.573
Castro SS: .284/.325/.410
Montero C: .364/.342/.421
Baez 2B: .169/.227/.324
Olt 3B: .159/.248/.333
If Baez continues his 50% strike out rate into ST I expect him in Iowa and Alcantara at 2B.
Still it is a major change from last year just in terms of OBA.
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The reality is he would look good on almost any team. The age of the power ss is over. But, I expect Castro to go off this year. If he carries over from the last month and a half, he will have his best season to date. He had complete control of the zone when he got injured. It was beautiful
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see that's where you've got it backwards. castro was able to put up those numbers with no protection in the lineup. as the youth settles in and gets better, his numbers will get better and better with theirs. castro all of a sudden wont be one of two hitters to worry about in the lineup, he will be one of many good hitters in the lineup and that makes it impossible to pitch around him, and we all know what happens when castro gets fastballs....
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No it comes down to talent level. Castro is what he is right now. He lacks a strong BB% or SLG to be a top ended hitter. IMO he will fall to the wayside as talent starts to establish it self.
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