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I've already addressed things like this.
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I've already addressed things like this.
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Well, while the evidence supporting that Rizzo is a leader may not be what it appears to be, do you have any reason to believe that he's not a leader?
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What Rizzo said may have been a bit presumptuous, but it wasn't wrong.
Both teams want to win this year. The Sox, not having a deep farm and patient fans, have to spend money. The Cubs, having said luxury, are counting on the deep farm to produce.
Hopefully both teams are successful with their plans and the cocksmanship can continue into October
Both teams want to win this year. The Sox, not having a deep farm and patient fans, have to spend money. The Cubs, having said luxury, are counting on the deep farm to produce.
Hopefully both teams are successful with their plans and the cocksmanship can continue into October
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wow. that is just pure leadership. maybe build a statue of him for this amazing leadership by challenging the reds dugout and predicting a division winner. total proven leader.
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So, is that why both teams won the same amount of games last year? Because the Sox have a 'good' rotation and a 'proven, balanced' lineup? If anything, it says more about the Cubs and less about the White Sox because the Cubs traded away half their fucking team last year and kept things interesting the entire season.
And trying to say Abreu knows what he has around him is total nonsense -- they added a lot of new pieces to the puzzle, just like the Cubs have. All fans are drunk on optimism this time of year. Why does it always turn into "Our team is better because *fill in the blank*"?
Again -- both teams have reasons for optimism. Both teams can challenge for a division crown. Both teams will be fun to watch. Stop putting lipstick on a pig.
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You have the biggest dick as long as Fisch or myself isn't in the room. Then you have the fourth biggest dick -- because Fisch has two.
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What if Rizzo enters the room? How does that change matters?
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wow. that is just pure leadership. maybe build a statue of him for this amazing leadership by challenging the reds dugout and predicting a division winner. total proven leader.
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You Jeal? Is it because Abreu says he is 28 but will be 33 a year from now?
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Only 85%? Rizzo needs to work harder on his on base percent if you know what I mean.
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Only in that I generally have a high level of doubt when people make these observations about leadership from afar. For everything someone (I'll make this generic so people don't get hung up on Rizzo) does that the public might perceive as being a leader, there could be 5 things that rubs his teammates the wrong way. There are also a lot of fake leaders... I'm talking about guys who do things knowing it creates the appearance they're a leader, when teammates don't really consider them to be one. Sometimes it just depends on the make up of the team.
When I played HS football, our QB was a rah rah guy. He would always do things trying to present the idea that he was a leader. But everyone hated him and saw it as fake. Part of the reason was that the back up was far more talented than him and his mother also happened to be on the school board. Many players felt like if he was truly a leader, he would have gone to the coach instead and told the coach to start the other guy because that would have been putting the team first. But nothing like that ever happened. We had to put up with this act. The unfortunate thing too was people (outside observers) would make positive comments about him so his act (pretending to be a leader) with people who weren't on the team. To this day I cringe when people bestow someone leadership qualities from afar.
And so, when I see people attributing someone leadership qualities because they challenged a team to a fight, I sense that it could be erroneous in that it could ignore a variety of things Rizzo does that rubs his teammates the wrong way and it also could be ignoring all the less obvious things that the real leader might be doing that makes teammates see him as a leader. Again, I don't really know what's the case here. They could be right about Rizzo but none of us are in that locker room. That's why I asked how his teammates felt. But I will also say that while his teammates might appreciate the gesture of challenging the Reds to a fight, I suspect that his age and experience will be the bigger reason for why all the younger players perceive him as a leader. In other words, I think him trying to help the young guys be successful will carry more weight than the fight gesture. And this is something that won't really be as obvious to the outside observer.
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So, you're pretty much saying that your Sox have no chance at winning their division next year?
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All I care about is he is playing high end D and he hit 30 HR's. Add to it his OBA was around .400.
If he wants to speak out or not that is fine. What matters is what he does on the field at the end of the day.
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You Jeal? Is it because Abreu says he is 28 but will be 33 a year from now?
lol.
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so rizzo knows what he has in lake,alcantara,baez almora,soler,russell, etc? cmon now. your team barely has sample sizes let alone anything of substance to say they will compete for a division title.
i think the combo of vegas odds and rizzos dumb ass "leadership" comments have you sitting on false hope. for you and your confident buddies i hope there are no brett jacksons,josh vitters, corey pattersons etc within these sure things
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You still jeal, bro
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Knowing "what he has" is irrelevant. Would fans rather have him saying, "You know, let's just go ahead and temper expectations -- just in case things don't pan out, in case guys get hurt or in case we have a long slump, I'll go ahead and say I think we'll win 75 games instead of 85... I just wouldn't want to look stupid or let everyone down."
He's the best player on the team. He's a leader. He relishes in being 'the guy' and enjoys that pressure -- he's said it time and time again in interviews. That's the guy I want representing my team to the media, not some fucking statue who dodges questions and can be counted on to give candid answers. That's what impressed me the most this weekend at Cubs Convention, during the Q&A segments, everyone from the Ricketts family to the management team to the coaches and players were all very open with the way they answered things. They didn't shy away from when fans asked questions about team building, playing prospect, juggling talent, etc. And I, for one, truly appreciated that.
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Well, when your best player is 42 and you aren't sure how much longer he'll be able to produce at a high level, it'll sour your mood for sure.
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