Are bears fans overrating pace?

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Bears fans arent so different right?
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Surely you understand there is a difference between 1985 and 1957, right? or are you as old as ommy and at this point its all blending together?
 

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Surely you understand there is a difference between 1985 and 1957, right? or are you as old as ommy and at this point its all blending together?

I dont know you tell me. it was both before I was born.
 

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I knew when I saw this thread it would be another redundant, moronic take from Alpha Male with a large helping of blather from the other village idiot too.

Can you imagine being a fan of a team that hasn't won a championship since 1957 or a playoff game since 1992 and have the audacity to talk shit on any other team's message board?

Only thing worse than that is losing 9 out of the last ten games to that very team, and setting a conference record for the most consecutive last place finishes. No worries though, another year, and another year added to your record lol.
 

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First of all Mike Glennon says hi.............. Yeah, spending 18 mill on him was okie dokey you dope, but spending it on a quality WR, well shit, that would have been wasted money for sure (good lord how stupid can you get).

Second of all, another simpleton that doesn't understand context. The magic fairy dust statement was in relation to all the things I listed happening, which will never happen.

SMDH

Smdh, when this is your proverbial golden bullet for your argument, you know you're grasping at straws.

18 million is fairly run of the mill guaranteed money for a mid-level stop gap QB. We talk a lot of crap about Glennon, but he was given the same garbage situation he was thrown into as Trubisky. Virtually no legitimate receivers and an offensive scheme as predictable as a dog shitting in the backyard. And the fact is that his contract was structured so that he was a 1-year holdover for Trubisky.

You say how the Bears "wasted" money, but keep in mind that Glennon wasn't given an albatross contract that restricted the franchise for years to come like his predecessor did with Cutler.

And as for the idea of spending it on a quality WR, which one? Hmmm? Which quality receiver would you be referring to? Because the best WR on the market in 2017 was, guess who? Alshon Jeffery. A guy who the Bears tried to re-sign but who chose to decline and signed somewhere else for less money. The next best guy was Terrelle Pryor, who up until 2016 had 2 receptions. Yeah, I can't necessarily blame Pace for not taking a chance and offering a guy with 1 full year of experience as a receiver a big contract. The rest of the guys were all players I wouldn't throw a major contract at. Those were Eric Decker, Pierre Garcon, Jeremy Maclin and DeSean Jackson, and as of now, they're all on the wrong side of 30, so doesn't exactly help the youth movement we're shooting for.

Overall, this just further clarifies the holes in your argument.
 

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Only thing worse than that is losing 9 out of the last ten games to that very team, and setting a conference record for the most consecutive last place finishes. No worries though, another year, and another year added to your record lol.

Meanwhile, Lions franchise golden boy Stafford has been there...how long exactly? And how many playoff games has he won?

I'll give you a hint, the same as Trubisky and one less than Smokin' Jay.
 

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Smdh, when this is your proverbial golden bullet for your argument, you know you're grasping at straws.

18 million is fairly run of the mill guaranteed money for a mid-level stop gap QB. We talk a lot of crap about Glennon, but he was given the same garbage situation he was thrown into as Trubisky. Virtually no legitimate receivers and an offensive scheme as predictable as a dog shitting in the backyard. And the fact is that his contract was structured so that he was a 1-year holdover for Trubisky.

You say how the Bears "wasted" money, but keep in mind that Glennon wasn't given an albatross contract that restricted the franchise for years to come like his predecessor did with Cutler.

And as for the idea of spending it on a quality WR, which one? Hmmm? Which quality receiver would you be referring to? Because the best WR on the market in 2017 was, guess who? Alshon Jeffery. A guy who the Bears tried to re-sign but who chose to decline and signed somewhere else for less money. The next best guy was Terrelle Pryor, who up until 2016 had 2 receptions. Yeah, I can't necessarily blame Pace for not taking a chance and offering a guy with 1 full year of experience as a receiver a big contract. The rest of the guys were all players I wouldn't throw a major contract at. Those were Eric Decker, Pierre Garcon, Jeremy Maclin and DeSean Jackson, and as of now, they're all on the wrong side of 30, so doesn't exactly help the youth movement we're shooting for.

Overall, this just further clarifies the holes in your argument.

But Glennon is not a run of the mill mid level QB, he’s a back up qb. Glennon is the identical younger version of Matt Moore, who never made more than $4 mil per season in his prime, and never more than $2 mil thereafter.
 

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But Glennon is not a run of the mill mid level QB, he’s a back up qb. Glennon is the identical younger version of Matt Moore, who never made more than $4 mil per season in his prime, and never more than $2 mil thereafter.

But if you are telling him he's the starter, he gets starter money.
 

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Smdh, when this is your proverbial golden bullet for your argument, you know you're grasping at straws.

18 million is fairly run of the mill guaranteed money for a mid-level stop gap QB. We talk a lot of crap about Glennon, but he was given the same garbage situation he was thrown into as Trubisky. Virtually no legitimate receivers and an offensive scheme as predictable as a dog shitting in the backyard. And the fact is that his contract was structured so that he was a 1-year holdover for Trubisky.

You say how the Bears "wasted" money, but keep in mind that Glennon wasn't given an albatross contract that restricted the franchise for years to come like his predecessor did with Cutler.

And as for the idea of spending it on a quality WR, which one? Hmmm? Which quality receiver would you be referring to? Because the best WR on the market in 2017 was, guess who? Alshon Jeffery. A guy who the Bears tried to re-sign but who chose to decline and signed somewhere else for less money. The next best guy was Terrelle Pryor, who up until 2016 had 2 receptions. Yeah, I can't necessarily blame Pace for not taking a chance and offering a guy with 1 full year of experience as a receiver a big contract. The rest of the guys were all players I wouldn't throw a major contract at. Those were Eric Decker, Pierre Garcon, Jeremy Maclin and DeSean Jackson, and as of now, they're all on the wrong side of 30, so doesn't exactly help the youth movement we're shooting for.

Overall, this just further clarifies the holes in your argument.

It wasn't my argument, it was a counter argument to a stupid point that was trying to be made by someone else claiming the Bears shouldn't have been wasting money during their five year "rebuild". If you don't think Glennon was a complete waste, I don't know what to tell you. He started a whopping total of 4 games, making a total of roughly 5 million per game. Do you really think those four games on the bench helped MT? Good Lord. I keep hearing how MT didn't have a chance last year, do to a inadequate WR core, but when it is brought up that Pace could have easily addressed that issue, and not doing so was a failure on his part, the same lunkheads say that would have been a waste of money. I mean dam, Barkely was a better option than Glennon, for much less money. And yes, the Bears would have rather had Eric Decker, Pierre Garcon, Jeremy Maclin or DeSean Jackson over Glennon, and for that price they could have had two of them for two years. The mishandling of Alshon started way before last year, a point some of you just don't seem to get.

Glennon wasn't a bridge, he was a roadblock. he stole valuable pre-season time from MT, as well as additional starting experience. He yielded negative return on investment.
 

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Meanwhile, Lions franchise golden boy Stafford has been there...how long exactly? And how many playoff games has he won?

I'll give you a hint, the same as Trubisky and one less than Smokin' Jay.

Bears fans talkin shit about QB's, LMAO SMDH. If Stafford was on the Bears he would be by far the best QB to ever play for the Bears, and that is a fact. Stafford never was seen riding a dam stationary bike on the sidelines in a game either, as a matter of fact he threw a game winning TD pass with a dislocated shoulder. When and if MT ever approaches Staffords stats, Bears fans will be doing cartwheels. But your right, you can't lose playoff games if you don't, well, make it to the playoffs.
 

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It wasn't my argument, it was a counter argument to a stupid point that was trying to be made by someone else claiming the Bears shouldn't have been wasting money. If you don't think Glennon was a complete waste, I don't know what to tell you. He started a whopping total of 4 games, making a total of roughly 5 million per game. Do you really think those four games on the bench helped MT? Good Lord. I mean dam, Barkly was a better option, for much less money. And yes, the Bears would have rather had Eric Decker, Pierre Garcon, Jeremy Maclin or DeSean Jackson over Glennon, and for that price they could have had two of them for two years. The mishandling of Alshon started way before last year, a point some of you just don't seem to get.

The know it all snark in your posts is tired, come out with it, you wore out your welcome on the Lions MB, they grew tired of it and banned you so you hang here. I'd think you'd have more fun trolling Packer fans.

Alshon and his soft tissue problems went away, notice how his soft tissue problems stopped when he went to the eaglets.
 

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The know it all snark in your posts is tired, come out with it, you wore out your welcome on the Lions MB, they grew tired of it and banned you so you hang here. I'd think you'd have more fun trolling Packer fans.

Alshon and his soft tissue problems went away, notice how his soft tissue problems stopped when he went to the eaglets.

I would take one more year of Alshon and his soft tissue problems over one year of 18.5 million dollar Glennon, any day of the week. Who knows, maybe after a second tag the Bears sign AJ to AR money, or better yet, had Pace offered AJ an extension before his rookie contract ran out, those things would have never developed. Instead he is paying AR 15 mil a year, a receiver who's best year in in 2015, and is coming off an ACL injury. Brilliant!
 

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Only thing worse than that is losing 9 out of the last ten games to that very team, and setting a conference record for the most consecutive last place finishes. No worries though, another year, and another year added to your record lol.

Your heroes are still down 23 games in the series all time. The Lions would have to sweep the next 11.5 years to get even. I guess joy as a Lion fan is finding any kind of “success” you can hang your hat on. Your window of mediocrity is closing too. You had the first pick in the draft at QB and one of the best wide receivers in the game and couldn’t even win a playoff game with that combo. Brutal...
 

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Your heroes are still down 23 games in the series all time. The Lions would have to sweep the next 11.5 years to get even. I guess joy as a Lion fan is finding any kind of “success” you can hang your hat on. Your window of mediocrity is closing too. You had the first pick in the draft at QB and one of the best wide receivers in the game and couldn’t even win a playoff game with that combo. Brutal...

As bears fans we have no right to complain about lions fans. Our franchise as been equally inept if not more. There is a reason the bears are considered the browns of the NFC and not lions.
 

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Your heroes are still down 23 games in the series all time. The Lions would have to sweep the next 11.5 years to get even. I guess joy as a Lion fan is finding any kind of “success” you can hang your hat on. Your window of mediocrity is closing too. You had the first pick in the draft at QB and one of the best wide receivers in the game and couldn’t even win a playoff game with that combo. Brutal...

At least Calvin actually played, hows Kevin White working out? The only history that matters is recent history, enjoy your one small minute of fame 35 years ago........And I wasn't aware Stafford's career was over already............Enjoy your consecutive 5 last place finish's in the division. Maybe Aaron Rodgers can get hurt again, and this time you actually beat the Packers, smdh.
 

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At least Calvin actually played, hows Kevin White working out? The only history that matters is recent history, enjoy your one small minute of fame 35 years ago........And I wasn't aware Stafford's career was over already............Enjoy your consecutive 5 last place finish's in the division. Maybe Aaron Rodgers can get hurt again, and this time you actually beat the Packers, smdh.

Packers are up 30 games on the kitties all-time, and the Bears are up 23. Just sayin... And yes, dont we all want Rodgers hurt? So what?
 

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Your heroes are still down 23 games in the series all time. The Lions would have to sweep the next 11.5 years to get even. I guess joy as a Lion fan is finding any kind of “success” you can hang your hat on. Your window of mediocrity is closing too. You had the first pick in the draft at QB and one of the best wide receivers in the game and couldn’t even win a playoff game with that combo. Brutal...

That rich Lions heritage...

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