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People here are ridiculous.
Are the people who consider themselves to be "high" on Trubiskey the same people that
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That's why I say keep drafting until you have your QB and a backup you're willing to stick with as starter.
When Hundley fell we should've grabbed him. Maybe not a great one but was highly rated and fell, the exact type of QB you should take a chance on when you're using ex-scrubs and UDFA/6th rounders as your backups.
I don't feel like going through all my ignored trolls looking for the exact word "bust" but here's one.
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No matter what you think you see or don't see from Trubisky. A team should always look to draft QBs.
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What bothers the hell out of me, is his shit footwork in the pocket. If he correct's it, he has a bright future, if he doesn't, he projects nothing better than middle of the pack at best.
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This upcoming offseason and a hopefully drastically upgraded coaching staff should help Mitch improve his mechanics, especially his footwork. At least that's what I expect.
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OP has used the word "Literally" 16 times in this thread. I don't mind counting because I'm drinking, but damn man. I think he might have used it correctly one time...even then it was iffy.
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First, these comparisons to New England and their drafting QBs every year needs to stop. NE may be the best run and most successful franchise in history. They have first ballot QB and coach they are of singular success. Second, I haven’t heard or read, anywhere but here, that MT is a bust. It would seem that those who actually make a living at professional football analysis understand that rookie QBs with a handful of starts need to be given time. Add to that the Bears may have the worst WR corps in the NFL. The RB position is solid but that succes will be limited by 8 in the box on 1st and 2nd down. Third, the coaching is poor. Expecting progression in MT’s game with this coaching staff is foolish.
So it is “wait until next year”, again. Hopefully the coaching staff is re-vamped and Pace is both successful and aggressive in FA.
So it is “wait until next year”, again. Hopefully the coaching staff is re-vamped and Pace is both successful and aggressive in FA.
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This is a good topic that went off on a bad tangent.
I don't think that you can draw the conclusion that Trubisky will not be the real deal just because he was picked by the same guy that picked Glennon, who was a horrible signing. Maybe the law of averages says he gets this one right. Trubisky is being developed slowly but surely, learning to protect the ball. Of course the Cutler fanboys are into the ball flying recklessly around the field. That is not and will not be Trubisky. He will never be a gunslinger, but will be a great downfield passer, at the right times. Pace put us into a bad situation this past Sunday. We are simply overmatched and thank god the team did not try anything crazy in the 2nd half to try to make a huge comeback. Trubisky would have gotten killed and probably thrown 5 interceptions.
Keep the faith.
I don't think that you can draw the conclusion that Trubisky will not be the real deal just because he was picked by the same guy that picked Glennon, who was a horrible signing. Maybe the law of averages says he gets this one right. Trubisky is being developed slowly but surely, learning to protect the ball. Of course the Cutler fanboys are into the ball flying recklessly around the field. That is not and will not be Trubisky. He will never be a gunslinger, but will be a great downfield passer, at the right times. Pace put us into a bad situation this past Sunday. We are simply overmatched and thank god the team did not try anything crazy in the 2nd half to try to make a huge comeback. Trubisky would have gotten killed and probably thrown 5 interceptions.
Keep the faith.
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Yes. He needs coaching so, so badly. It's not his fault; he's as green as a QB can be, with the combination of his little experience in college and the fact that he never ran a pro style offense before. It will take time and a lot of coaching, which is why I see it as such a critical thing for Pace to bring in a HC who knows how to develop a QB. This kid is the #1 priority for the organization, and his development needs to come first before anything else.
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I don't fit any of the answers- I watched Cutler in Denver before he came here and was never on board with him. He has always played the same game.
As for the new kid- Who the hell knows yet.
He has potential- just like every other QB drafted in the league.
He is greener than most, with the minimal amount of starts since high school that have been mentioned over and over.
He has been mediocre while playing in an ultra conservative offense with a notable lack of talent around him... shown some flashes and shown some warts.
I am at least waiting to see the bears compete for a full 60 minutes while letting him shoulder the load of the offense before beginning to form an opinion on him... see if he can do it or not.
As it stands, Fox and Co. seem to be sheltering him. Is that just Fox being Fox, or is their a reason why they dont trust Trubisky to open things up?
Personally, I am giving Trubs the benefit of the doubt for the time being and am going to assume Fox is a dinosaur that cant be bothered to develop a kid in his last year coaching the bears, So I am going to withhold judgement on Mitch for a bit.
As for the new kid- Who the hell knows yet.
He has potential- just like every other QB drafted in the league.
He is greener than most, with the minimal amount of starts since high school that have been mentioned over and over.
He has been mediocre while playing in an ultra conservative offense with a notable lack of talent around him... shown some flashes and shown some warts.
I am at least waiting to see the bears compete for a full 60 minutes while letting him shoulder the load of the offense before beginning to form an opinion on him... see if he can do it or not.
As it stands, Fox and Co. seem to be sheltering him. Is that just Fox being Fox, or is their a reason why they dont trust Trubisky to open things up?
Personally, I am giving Trubs the benefit of the doubt for the time being and am going to assume Fox is a dinosaur that cant be bothered to develop a kid in his last year coaching the bears, So I am going to withhold judgement on Mitch for a bit.
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“I think they’re easing me into it, kinda. But I feel like I could have handled it from the beginning.” — Mitchell Trubisky
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I wish!
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I feel like he's playing worse every game. The 9ers are third worst against the run, so I'm sure Fox is salivating about not throwing the ball one fucking time, doesn't look like it's going to get much better towards the end of the season. Defenses know how to play the Bears so well, it's like they get handed the playbook a week ahead of time...
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The worrisome thing with Trubisky is when they let him throw at the end of games when they're out of reach he does get some questionable throws and should have a lot more interceptions. But it's at the end of games when it's do or die and it can't be said enough with this crowd, he's a rookie.
People watching expecting a win (especially against Philly) are setting themselves up for disappointment. Not this year.
I wish the coaches would call a real balanced game from the start with him. But I have a feeling they've screwed us with run heavy that our run game is dead for the year unless we can manage to scare teams with some passes, and between a rookie QB and our WRs that's going to be tough.
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To the bolded..He did look sketchy this week. But he is a rookie, so we will see how he responds. Not gonna hit the panic button yet.
The learning curve for a rookie NFL QB seems to be-
Go out and tread water if you can while the defense lays back to see how they can defeat you.
Make a little progress, show what skills you have in what situations.
Settle in to a groove while the defense deciphers your tendencies and comes up with a way to take those comfort throws away. (Mitch is getting to or at this point)
Now it is time for...Take the next step and exploit the way they are countering you.
We shall see how it plays out.
... I know as a career long cutler basher it may seem hypocritical that I take a wait and see on mitch.... But the chicago fan base was just Special person when it came to cutler.
Cutler had glaring faults that developed early, stayed with him in denver, and followed him to chicago.
The way I see it, we dont know what Mitch is, and it is worth watching and waiting to see at this point what he becomes.
As for Jay, He was fully formed warts and all when he arrived. We knew exactly what he was, and some held out hope he could be re-made.
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I'm watching the game again and I'm not seeing the Trubisky sucked the whole time narrative.
I see coaches running in spite of the run not working. I see some close but not close enough passes. I see some good passes.
Yes he had his flashes in that game like always but like always our coaches won't use that part of the game often, like 3 -2yd runs is worse than 3 40yd misses.
I think some Bears fans are just clueless. They're expecting perfection from a rookie. They're expecting a vet game from a rookie.
They're doing the old every interception by our offense is the QB's fault, every interception by our defense is a great play by the defense bias.
I said it before I'll say it again, if you want to watch a rookie watch for the good, dismiss the bad. Hopefully the good sticks and the bad is cleared up.
But the clueless Bears fans only focus on the bad and want every rookie cut for being a rookie.
I see coaches running in spite of the run not working. I see some close but not close enough passes. I see some good passes.
Yes he had his flashes in that game like always but like always our coaches won't use that part of the game often, like 3 -2yd runs is worse than 3 40yd misses.
I think some Bears fans are just clueless. They're expecting perfection from a rookie. They're expecting a vet game from a rookie.
They're doing the old every interception by our offense is the QB's fault, every interception by our defense is a great play by the defense bias.
I said it before I'll say it again, if you want to watch a rookie watch for the good, dismiss the bad. Hopefully the good sticks and the bad is cleared up.
But the clueless Bears fans only focus on the bad and want every rookie cut for being a rookie.
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And then some are just Watson nuthuggers that actually hope Mitch fails so they can come on a message board and go:
Pretty sad huh?
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