Are the people who consider themselves to be "high" on Trubiskey the same people that

[Myk]

And then some are just Watson nuthuggers that actually hope Mitch fails so they can come on a message board and go:

Pretty sad huh?

Except if we had Watson he'd be a Bear and therefore Pace drafted another injury prone player.

 

[TexasBearfan]

Are your nipples pierced? Not trying to be nosey but I just have a gut feeling

 

[DaaBears]

I'm watching the game again and I'm not seeing the Trubisky sucked the whole time narrative.

I see coaches running in spite of the run not working. I see some close but not close enough passes. I see some good passes.
Yes he had his flashes in that game like always but like always our coaches won't use that part of the game often, like 3 -2yd runs is worse than 3 40yd misses.

I think some Bears fans are just clueless. They're expecting perfection from a rookie. They're expecting a vet game from a rookie.
They're doing the old every interception by our offense is the QB's fault, every interception by our defense is a great play by the defense bias.

I said it before I'll say it again, if you want to watch a rookie watch for the good, dismiss the bad. Hopefully the good sticks and the bad is cleared up.
But the clueless Bears fans only focus on the bad and want every rookie cut for being a rookie.

Not taking a shot at you, you seem a bit more reasonable than 85% here. But, we ran the ball 10 times against the Eagles, we passed it 33 times. And I think some of those 10 were like, lets just get out of Dodge here. For the last 3 games we have been passing much more than running, and that bullshit about not on first down is total nonsense. I like dealing with facts here. Probably in our last 4 games we have gone RRP way below the league average.

Its okay for people to formulate opinions, but let it go when it doesn't exist. We were winning games running the ball and the clock etc. Everybody said that is no good, Fox is trying to save his job. Well, now we lost 4 in a row passing the ball and everybody not only is "embarrassed" that we are losing, but still insists that Fox is running the ball. I really can't even read the total garbage coming out of here anymore, and one more loss and I am committed to leaving anyway, as I said worse than 8-8 and I am out.

 

[bearmick]

And then some are just Watson nuthuggers that actually hope Mitch fails so they can come on a message board and go:

You're utterly delusional. I'm surprised your post was thanked.

 

[truthbedamned]

You're utterly delusional. I'm surprised your post was thanked.

I'm not at all. Very clear if you read between the lines of some of the posters here.

 

[Jester]

Let me ask OP this. Are you the same idiot who thought we could get rid of Cutler and this would turn into a winning team ?

 

[HeHateMe]

Let me ask OP this. Are you the same idiot who thought we could get rid of Cutler and this would turn into a winning team ?

Although it is very unfair, uncourteous, and unsportsmanlike in my opinion to demand an answer to a question to the OP without even attempting to participate in the items and guidelines and questions in the first post, irregardlessly, I will answer your unsolicited and rather rude inquiry:

No, I was not that idiot.

 

[Myk]

Not taking a shot at you, you seem a bit more reasonable than 85% here. But, we ran the ball 10 times against the Eagles, we passed it 33 times. And I think some of those 10 were like, lets just get out of Dodge here. For the last 3 games we have been passing much more than running, and that bullshit about not on first down is total nonsense. I like dealing with facts here. Probably in our last 4 games we have gone RRP way below the league average.

Its okay for people to formulate opinions, but let it go when it doesn't exist. We were winning games running the ball and the clock etc. Everybody said that is no good, Fox is trying to save his job. Well, now we lost 4 in a row passing the ball and everybody not only is "embarrassed" that we are losing, but still insists that Fox is running the ball. I really can't even read the total garbage coming out of here anymore, and one more loss and I am committed to leaving anyway, as I said worse than 8-8 and I am out.

You're using whole game stats? How about first half second half split? How about with a lead (ha!) and without a lead?
Yeah a lot of passing, after the half. It's not how they call but when they call. We even passed more than dink and dunk with Glennon, after we were losing. If I can say "run run pass" during the game before a series and they go run run pass there's something wrong (and I don't say that every time, but seems when I do they do).
What we don't do is come out aggressive and keep on being aggressive (like the Eagles going for it on 4th down).

So you don't have to count the play by play, there were 8 of those runs in the 1st half. (And not including passes to RBs or QB scrambles there were more than 10 but penalties.) Only one RRP stuck out to me, that must've been the one I called, why did I know? Because Trubisky screwed up the series before I knew they were going to back off.

Abandoning the run would work as good as abandoning the pass. Problem is we've handed everyone just about all the film there could be on the run without using it to develop the pass. Now we're pretty much screwed having to use the pass to set up the run. It's partly our lack of WRs but a lot of it is the earlier play calling forcing us into a box, a loaded box (and I'm not saying that was or wasn't the case for the Eagle's game).

 

[Warrior Spirit]

I'm not at all. Very clear if you read between the lines of some of the posters here.

I was totally against Watson before the draft so no Watson nuthugging agenda here. But if you can look at Watson and Trubisky have done so far in their pro careers and you still believe Bears fans should have more hope for their next season with Trubisky than Texans fans should have with Watson, I’d say you’re downright football Special person and just serving a nuthugging agenda of your own.


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[truthbedamned]

I was totally against Watson before the draft so no Watson nuthugging agenda here. But if you can look at Watson and Trubisky have done so far in their pro careers and you still believe Bears fans should have more hope for their next season with Trubisky than Texans fans should have with Watson, I’d say you’re downright football Special person and just serving a nuthugging agenda of your own.


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I think they are 2 very different QB's. Both with a chance at becoming very good. You give Trubs the WR of the Texan's and his numbers would be comparable. Let's revisit this thread in 4 years. Watson had good numbers but he was not winning games.

 

[Myk]

Let me ask OP this. Are you the same idiot who thought we could get rid of Cutler and this would turn into a winning team ?

LOL Let's get a scrub. It would have to work out better than Cutler.

 

[DanTown]

It amazes me how often Mitch comes up and the conversation is not tilted to what the Bears to go up and get him. Not only did Ryan Pace say Mitch was going to be good but that he was such a franchise changing player that giving up two thirds + a fourth just to guarantee your chance at him and not take say Watson or take Mahomes is fine evaluating. My fear with Mitch isn't that he isn't good because I bet he could be decent if you build enough support around him but that he's not good enough to justify cost and then going forward you're in that weird spot with QB where you pay a ton because of the league but you can't really win around him.

It's ironic because ON the field I think he's like a slightly worse Cutler but probably miles ahead of him in the locker room and that stuff does matter so I get why the Bears had him where they did but I cannot imagine how they had him THAT much ahead of Watson and Mahomes. The thing about the NFL is that this isn't the NBA or even MLB where you should be in the business of falling in love with players. You have to constantly evaluate the other choices and the Bears trade was saying that there is a vast difference between Mitch and the other players in the draft that at this point would be impossibly hard to argue exists.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

I think they are 2 very different QB's. Both with a chance at becoming very good. You give Trubs the WR of the Texan's and his numbers would be comparable. Let's revisit this thread in 4 years. Watson had good numbers but he was not winning games.

Watson had good numbers and was putting up a ton of points. Texans were just allowing even more points. They were still 10 times better with him than without him.

The point I would make is it’s already known what a huge difference Watson can be for that team. With Trubisky, you were probably getting more production out of Glennon to be honest.

You can say that Trubisky is green as can be and will come around in time but that’s a scary prospect when wondering just how many years will be spent waiting on him. There is that chance he won’t ever be that top 10 qb teams are always looking for.

When the Bears dump Glennon, they’ll have very little money invested in the QB position. An opportune time to bring in another top prospect and let them compete, really compete. Need better QB play, plain and simple, and that doesn’t just come by being ultra patient with someone you think will come around in time.


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[ijustposthere]

I see the Bears doing the same thing with Mitch so far that they did with Cutler. Drop in a QB and think that fixes everything. Hopefully the Bears don't make the same mistakes and give him weapons and a good coach to develop him.

 

[bearmick]

I'm not at all. Very clear if you read between the lines of some of the posters here.

There is not one Bears fan on this board who wants Trubisky to be worse than Watson. Anyone who cares more about a cheap "told ya so" on a message board than they do about their team, isn't really a fan of that team at all, and therefore would be unlikely to have registered for the team's message board in the first place.

 

[truthbedamned]

There is not one Bears fan on this board who wants Trubisky to be worse than Watson. Anyone who cares more about a cheap "told ya so" on a message board than they do about their team, isn't really a fan of that team at all, and therefore would be unlikely to have registered for the team's message board in the first place.

I disagree. There are several trolls here doing exactly that.

 

[bearmick]

I think they are 2 very different QB's. Both with a chance at becoming very good. You give Trubs the WR of the Texan's and his numbers would be comparable. Let's revisit this thread in 4 years. Watson had good numbers but he was not winning games.

Watson was on pace for a potential MVP run, was breaking rookie records, and was putting up over 30 points in every start. Trubisky would not be putting up similar numbers because, at least at this point in their careers, he isn't nearly as NFL ready as Watson.

If you think this extremely green Mitch Trubisky would be breaking records and be in the MVP conversation because he had Deandre Hopkins on the field, then you are totally out of it. There's no disgrace to Trubisky to acknowledge that, at this point, Watson is the better QB.

 

[swz01]

Amazing how people beg for us to draft a qb high, we get one, then they root to see him fail. Pathetic. Why do you even follow this team? You’re not a bears fan

 

[swz01]

Well one more injury with Watson and the guys career is probably over. He will be another RG III. He relies too much on mobility to not have another injury.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Amazing how people beg for us to draft a qb high, we get one, then they root to see him fail. Pathetic. Why do you even follow this team? You’re not a bears fan

I was a Mahomes guy and anti-fleecing.


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