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Me and the people we go to the games with love the stadium. The size is perfect, never have a problem into or out of parking, no problems getting in or out of stadium. Our view is phenomenal. We solved the concessions lines quandary by eating right before we leave the tailgate area. Getting a beer is simple and quick, the bathrooms are only crowded between quarters and halftime. If the build a new stadium or not really doesn’t matter to me as much as the location. Arlington Heights would add another 30 miles to my drive each way and another 50 miles each way for some of the other people that go to the game. If it’s just for a game that most fans of the Bears will not get to go to I’m not sure why it’s a big priority for Bear fans to want a bigger stadium. More people, more cars, more traffic, more people into the stadium, more people out of the stadium, more people to the bathrooms. I’ve been to 7 different stadiums and they all have their problems especially if you are there for the first time. A new stadium will give you problems just like the old stadium did. Just leave in in the city and I’ll be happy
Agree 100% I've been to many stadiums all over I think soldier field is among the best. It's small but what do I care? Not a bad seat in the house really...
 

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I wonder what adds more revenue for a city, winning a super bowl or hosting one?

Well, I seriously doubt they actually make any money hosting a Superbowl. The team ownership makes money. But generally speaking, the cities lose money on the deal although it does raise their profile for that year. They go thru a lot of economic gymnastics to try and prove that they can at least break even but I have never seen anything realistic from a city or organization on how they make any money on things like Superbowls or the Olympics.
 

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Well, I seriously doubt they actually make any money hosting a Superbowl. The team ownership makes money. But generally speaking, the cities lose money on the deal although it does raise their profile for that year. They go thru a lot of economic gymnastics to try and prove that they can at least break even but I have never seen anything realistic from a city or organization on how they make any money on things like Superbowls or the Olympics.
I would think there'd be a big influx for tourism with events like that
 

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Why does it matter if they get a nice stadium in Arlington heights? If Chicago fucks up and won't do it, then they are better off moving...

An Arlington heights Stadium costs the bears a lot of revenue from all the events they could hold as well as the residuals from the lakefront casino tourism thats coming .

The city wouldn't screw themselves the Bears would screw themselves because the city could still builds their own multipurpose stadium and the Bears would still be trying to attract other users to a stadium out in the middle of nowhere .

Thats why they are not moving but putting the wheels in motion to get a multiuse use stadium in Chicago with better lease terms as well.

They are angling to get a newly renovated facility with better terms and they are gonna build a Bears museum and I wouldn't bet against a Hotel/Sportsbook to go with that city owned Casino that is 100% coming .
 

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I would think there'd be a big influx for tourism with events like that

Sure, there is an influx of tourism for the Superbowl. But not enough to offset the costs of building the stadium required to be able to get the hosting gig and then all the other costs associated with setting up as the host city.

Don't get me wrong, the Superbowl is a huge profile boost and there are plenty of businesses that benefit from it and/or use the excuse of it to finally spend money on upgrades they had been delaying.

It's not all bad by any means. However, the reality is that the city is going to spend more money on the new or upgraded stadium and hosting set-up than they will make back from that tourism influx. One of the big bs factors that often happens is that the teams and groups saying X amount of money will be gained in revenue act like none of those hotels or restaurants would have had any customers if it wasn't for the Superbowl. Now granted, the hotels especially will jack up prices to ridiculously high rates during the event - but even accounting for that, it's that business making money, not the city who is the entity spending money to bring the Superbowl to town. That's what I meant by some of the economic gymnastics that happen.
 

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Would you be going to the Suer Bowl if it’s here 2 times in the next 50 years?
LOL.....hardly. I'll be dead and buried in half that time. Even if I was 20 and lived that long, I wouldn't go. With the great HD and soon to be 4K coverage on TV, why? To be able to say "I was there" to someone who wouldn't give a shit anyway? Nah, I'd watch in the comfort of my man cave. Let someone else toss away a grand to fight crowds.
 

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LOL.....hardly. I'll be dead and buried in half that time. Even if I was 20 and lived that long, I wouldn't go. With the great HD and soon to be 4K coverage on TV, why? To be able to say "I was there" to someone who wouldn't give a shit anyway? Nah, I'd watch in the comfort of my man cave. Let someone else toss away a grand to fight crowds.
When the Bears went to the Super Bowl as a STH, I was given a chance to be in a lottery to win the right to purchase 2 tickets to the game. I did not win that particular lottery. As a fan of the team in the super bowl it would stand to reason there would be a better way of giving the season ticket holders a better chance to get to see the game.
 
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When the Bears went to the Super Bowl as a STH, I was given a chance to be in a lottery to win 2 tickets to the game. I did not win that particular lottery. As a fan of the team in the super bowl it would stand to reason there would be a better way of giving the season ticket holders a better chance to get to see the game.
were you there for the nfccg?
 

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The one against New Orleans, not the one against the Rams.
nice. We were near the NW tunnel for the Rams one, and my dad's old monsignor gave him 3 sb xx tickets (I guess some bears were parishioners) so he, I, and his weird Irish colleague drove 2 days in a rented creepy van to new orleans for it.

I just found this when going through my Dad's stuff

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Sure, there is an influx of tourism for the Superbowl. But not enough to offset the costs of building the stadium required to be able to get the hosting gig and then all the other costs associated with setting up as the host city.

Don't get me wrong, the Superbowl is a huge profile boost and there are plenty of businesses that benefit from it and/or use the excuse of it to finally spend money on upgrades they had been delaying.

It's not all bad by any means. However, the reality is that the city is going to spend more money on the new or upgraded stadium and hosting set-up than they will make back from that tourism influx. One of the big bs factors that often happens is that the teams and groups saying X amount of money will be gained in revenue act like none of those hotels or restaurants would have had any customers if it wasn't for the Superbowl. Now granted, the hotels especially will jack up prices to ridiculously high rates during the event - but even accounting for that, it's that business making money, not the city who is the entity spending money to bring the Superbowl to town. That's what I meant by some of the economic gymnastics that happen.
Obviously it will take awhile to recoup the initial investment and if you relied only on the NFL for income, it would be a real dumb investment. It's Chicago....it can't be open air because the weather will cost you 4/5 months of income. It will have to be domed.....March Madness, college football playoffs, Wrestlemania, concerts, National conventions along with all Bear games....there would be lots of ways to fill dates. It would be a gold mine long term.
 

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nice. We were near the NW tunnel for the Rams one, and my dad's old monsignor gave him 3 sb xx tickets (I guess some bears were parishioners) so he, I, and his weird Irish colleague drove 2 days in a rented creepy van to new orleans for it
Thats awesome. I had the pleasure of watching that game while entertaining numerous Bear fans at my house. I actually taped the game and we had another party the next weekend and watched the game again. We were so ready for the super bowl after that
 

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Obviously it will take awhile to recoup the initial investment and if you relied only on the NFL for income, it would be a real dumb investment. It's Chicago....it can't be open air because the weather will cost you 4/5 months of income. It will have to be domed.....March Madness, college football playoffs, Wrestlemania, concerts, National conventions along with all Bear games....there would be lots of ways to fill dates. It would be a gold mine long term.

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying to not build a new or upgrade the Stadium. I was just talking specifically that the hosting the event of the Superbowl is not going to make the city any money.
 

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Zero chance the good citizens of Arlington Heights would tolerate the building of a new football stadium on that property. Its going to end up like the property in Glenview where the Naval Air Station used to be. Its going to turn into a bunch of $M+ homes build around a golf course or two, an upscale shopping area, and some public green space thrown in to get the zoning approved. I can't imagine anyone who lives there wanting a giant football stadium surrounded by a huge parking lot, sitting there doing nothing for the community 355 days a year and inundating it with 80,00 loud, drunk people the other 10 days. I'm guessing that mayor is already on a fast track to becoming an ex-mayor, just based on his very casual comments about the possibility.

What people here want with that property and what the people of Arlington Heights might want are two completely different things. Polar opposites actually...
 

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Zero chance the good citizens of Arlington Heights would tolerate the building of a new football stadium on that property. Its going to end up like the property in Glenview where the Naval Air Station used to be. Its going to turn into a bunch of $M+ homes build around a golf course or two, an upscale shopping area, and some public green space thrown in to get the zoning approved. I can't imagine anyone who lives there wanting a giant football stadium surrounded by a huge parking lot, sitting there doing nothing for the community 355 days a year and inundating it with 80,00 loud, drunk people the other 10 days. I'm guessing that mayor is already on a fast track to becoming an ex-mayor, just based on his very casual comments about the possibility.

What people here want with that property and what the people of Arlington Heights might want are two completely different things. Polar opposites actually...
I was gonna say, I don't think Arlington Heights wants to cater to or have a bunch of business that cater to a bunch of drunk-ass, dick-hard frontbutts like myself after a win or a loss. There is a reason they moved to the suburbs
 

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