Art Thread

[bookjones]

Oddly enough, that's actually something I could see myself framing as well... luckily I have my dad do all my framing i need for free.

Well it suuuuure must be nice to have a framing parental unit---if only we were all so fortunate. Asshole. Pfft.



{{{enviously slams thread shut behind her}}}

 

[MassHavoc]

I will admit that he's two hours away so I have to wait sometimes... And he's not a pro just really good at that type of stuff and taugt himself. His wife does watercolor so he gets lots of practice. He does a good enough job that you really can't tell... You know what... It is nice. I don't have to justify myself to you. Asshole.

 

[nana]

Well it suuuuure must be nice to have a framing parental unit---if only we were all so fortunate. Asshole. Pfft.



{{{enviously slams thread shut behind her}}}

BOOKS! Cool Mrs. BHP drawing!



I really like the folks at Artists' Framing Service, fwiw.

 

[the canadian dream]

I haven't posted any works in a while. I have a few new ones but I will start with this one I collaborated on with the Mule. You can probably guess who did what.



It is called "Some Thing"

 

[bookjones]

Oooh. . .I like that triptych A LOT Grammar Hobo! There's a sense of whimsy or sex appeal about it with The Mule's contribution.

I will admit that he's two hours away so I have to wait sometimes... And he's not a pro just really good at that type of stuff and taugt himself. His wife does watercolor so he gets lots of practice. He does a good enough job that you really can't tell... You know what... It is nice. I don't have to justify myself to you. Asshole.

Touché asshole.

BOOKS! Cool Mrs. BHP drawing!



I really like the folks at Artists' Framing Service, fwiw.

NANS! I know right, I am digging my original Mrs. BHP. As for framing this little gem I think I am going to stay right in the neighborhood this time and go to the Foursided in Uptown as I recalled I have a Groupon for there I have yet to use, heh.









Also, for everyone that likes my Mrs. BHP---well everyone can get them some! Like so:



http://marcylyzun.com/



or else her FB page which she said gets updated more often than the site:



http://www.facebook....154005107958450

 

[the canadian dream]

Oooh. . .I like that triptych A LOT Grammar Hobo! There's a sense of whimsy or sex appeal about it with The Mule's contribution.

Are you suggesting that the mighty TCD has no sex appeal? The Mule isn't sticking around for the conversation and the unpleasant morning smell (not to mention late afternoon and evening smell) so I must have some.



She is currently producing some text art on the side now too. Some really good stuff. If she allows I will start posting some of them. In the meantime I give you yet another work by the mighty me and I am happy to say this one is getting some strong feedback and it perhaps could be sold soon....

It also works this way but I prefer it hung the way above... But this pic shows the colors a little bit better as this work does play with light a lot more than my others.

It is called "Accidentals As Necessary"

 

[MassHavoc]

Hey TCD, don't take this the wrong way as I mean nothing but am just curious. Is this the only art you do? I was just curious. Would love to see other types as well if you have any?

 

[bookjones]

Are you suggesting that the mighty TCD has no sex appeal? The Mule isn't sticking around for the conversation and the unpleasant morning smell (not to mention late afternoon and evening smell) so I must have some.



She is currently producing some text art on the side now too. Some really good stuff. If she allows I will start posting some of them. In the meantime I give you yet another work by the mighty me and I am happy to say this one is getting some strong feedback and it perhaps could be sold soon....



It also works this way but I prefer it hung the way above... But this pic shows the colors a little bit better as this work does play with light a lot more than my others.



It is called "Accidentals As Necessary"

Yeah, ummm. . .whatever Mighty Grammar Hobo. RME All that egomaniacal bs did was serve to remind me of the line from "Casey at the Bat",



"But there is no joy in Mudville---mighty Casey has struck out."



SUCKAH.





Now on to The Mule and her foray into conjuring up some art. Yes, please DO get her to allow you to post some of her stuff. We'll just see now how much your self-vaunted sex appeal and thus powers of persuasion work now won't we? Bring it on Mr. Only Straight Non-Asian Dude in Vancouver.

 

[Ymono37]

Yeah, ummm. . .whatever Mighty Grammar Hobo. RME All that egomaniacal bs did was serve to remind me of the line from "Casey at the Bat",



"But there is no joy in Mudville---mighty Casey has struck out."



SUCKAH.





Now on to The Mule and her foray into conjuring up some art. Yes, please DO get her to allow you to post some of her stuff. We'll just see now how much your self-vaunted sex appeal and thus powers of persuasion work now won't we? Bring it on Mr. Only Straight Non-Asian Dude in Vancouver.

My head is having a hard time conceptualizing this idea - as this is an art thread, I'm commissioning one of you to bring it to life, visually. For your work, I will give you Jako.

 

[bookjones]

My head is having a hard time conceptualizing this idea - as this is an art thread, I'm commissioning one of you to bring it to life, visually. For your work, I will give you Jako.

Alas, I have not an iota of artistic or creative talent nor an ounce of artistic temperament. You will have solicit (heh) the braggard asshole *artiste* from Mapletreeland.

 

[bookjones]

Since there is no theater thread and since the worlds of Art and Theater ever so conveniently converged in on me this past weekend, the Art thread seems appropriate.



Season subscription for the Goodman started and the first play on tap is Red by John Logan which was directed by Chicago theaterverse stud LEGEND Robert Falls. Not only did I get the excitement of the 2011-2012 season percolating the ole noggin but the play happens to be about one of my all-time favorite artists Mark Rothko. I've gushed about my hardcore Rothko love in this thread before so you can not even begin to imagine what it was like to finally see a performance of this play! I

you Goodman Theatre.



Additionally, the play was FANTASTIC. Completely understand why it's run has been extended. A two-man, intense tour-de-force. It's about a two year period in Rothko's life when he was working on the commission he had to do the murals for the then-being-constructed Four Seasons restaurant in the architecturally sweetass Mies van der Rohe/Philip Johnson designed Seagram's Building in NYC. The entire play takes place in Roktho's studio so stage design was as one can imagine a feast for the eyes seeing all of those "faux" canvases. The second character is a fictitious "assistant" created to facilitate the drama and it was intriguing the speculation into how Rothko would have treated this guy since as his fans know he was famously difficult. Additionally, since no one has ever explicitly known why Rothko pulled out of the Seagram's commission in the 60s and returned the money and what motivated him exactly to eventually donate the series to the Tate Gallery we associate seeing them at (now at the Tate Modern of course) before his death I just think this whole convention is a fabulous speculative jumping off point for mad creative license skills! There is absolutely nothing I did not admire about this play and this production of it. Highly recommended if there are some secret theater lover lurkers in the Chicago area here at IHN.

http://www.goodmanth...n.aspx?prod=124

 

[the canadian dream]

LOVE ROTHKO!!



Why have I never heard of this play before and why haven't they made a film based on Rothko yet? There are not enough films based on artists in my opinion. the ones that have been made such as "Frida" and "Pollock", "Basquiat" are amazing but I need more more more!!! Guess people just don't like films based on the mad minds of artists enough to get funding? There are some amazing American born artists with crazy life stories that I would love to see on film. Hell give me a decent Van Gogh bio film also. If there were any a story that was built for the screen and and Oscar it's Van Goghs story. I know there have been films made but they aren't good.



I need to find a way to see this. Sounds amazing.

 

[mikita's helmet]

Like BJ, I thought Rotko, too, when I saw your first painting, TCD.

I like Franz Kline, too.

My fave artist is Duchamp

 

[mikita's helmet]

Hell give me a decent Van Gogh bio film also. If there were any a story that was built for the screen and and Oscar it's Van Goghs story. I know there have been films made but they aren't good.

It's been awhile since I saw Robert Altman's Vincent & Theo, but I remember liking it.

Tim Roth as Vincent

 

[bookjones]

LOVE ROTHKO!!



Why have I never heard of this play before and why haven't they made a film based on Rothko yet?

How the **** would I know?

I think your answer hinges on whether or not you and The Mule make a point to get out and partake of the local theater scene.



I recognize that Chicagoans are lucky in that we have more theater companies per capita than any other city and that said companies are spread out ALL over the city not just in one or two theater hot-spots. Lots of great companies (and some of them with some pretty sweet pedigrees and history alas) have closed in the past 15 yrs. (like my beloved used and indie bookstores, sighs) but others have opened and in general the whole scene is still robust IMO.



Red is pretty old dude---if you/The Mule have theater buds you could always pitch it to them. Certainly doesn't require a lot of Equity actors or stage production beyond errecting the detailed Rothko studio set.

There are not enough films based on artists in my opinion. the ones that have been made such as "Frida" and "Pollock", "Basquiat" are amazing but I need more more more!!! Guess people just don't like films based on the mad minds of artists enough to get funding? There are some amazing American born artists with crazy life stories that I would love to see on film. Hell give me a decent Van Gogh bio film also. If there were any a story that was built for the screen and and Oscar it's Van Goghs story. I know there have been films made but they aren't good.

Grammar Hobo, where the **** you been? Off the top of my head I'd have to say Van Gogh is probably the artist who's had the MOST theatrical films done about him! Stretching all the way back to Kirk Douglas' hammy Lust for Life take on Van Gogh, to as Mikita's Helmet pointed out the great Robert Altman film Vincent and Theo---though the best IMO is the French film from back in the 90's Van Gogh and the best documentary is Paul Cox's great film Vincent with John Hurt voicing Van Gogh as he reads VG's letters to Theo.



Assuming we don't get into documentaries then naturally I agree with you that there could ALWAYS be more theatrical films about artists but on balance and considering the audience for the theme I'd have to say the global film industry keeps making them pretty regularly if you ask me.



There's your typical Hollywood fare like The Girl with the Pearl Earring about Vermeer but it is pretty faithfully adapted from its source novel so it's really about a Vermeer relationship and less about his life and artistic temperament IMO. Eh, it was harmless but nothing great. I liked Collin Firth well enough as Vermeer but really, I

Vermeer so a MUCH finer film that's solely about him and his art is going to have to be done some day to make me happy. And then there's your old-time Hollywood fare like the aforementioned Lust for Life or say The Agony and the Ecstasy with none other than Charlton Heston hamming it up as Michelangelo, heh. You mentioned Frida, Basquiat, and Pollock but there have also been in the past several decades even a fair amount of films that I can recall off the top of my head seeing:







Camille Claudel

(w/Isabelle Adjani playing her and of course since it's about Camille it naturally also features her relationship with Rodin. Loved this film back in the day and it was vanguard in at least highlighting a female artist.)





Suviving Picasso

(w/Anthony Hopkins playing Pablo. . .eh, it was decent.)





Love is the Devil

(w/Derek Jacobi playing Francis Bacon. This one I liked a lot. Depressing. But Jacobi was great alongside Daniel Craig.)





Modigliani

(w/Andy Garcia as Amedeo. This one was a letdown for me because really? Andy Garcia really can't act very well and I had high hopes *in spite* of that because Modigliani is likely one of my Top 10 favorite artists---this one is sorta okay,(but mostly weak IMO) but I have hopes some day a better biopic about him can be made)





Georgia O'Keeffe

(w/my girl Joan Allen as Georgia and my boy Jeremy Irons as Stieglitz. This one I had to rent because it wasn't a theater release---I think it was a cable movie? I liked it because of the artists involved and the actors playing them but I can't say it was a *strong* film)





Klimt

(w/John Malkovich playing Gustav. . .I will see and usually love JM in just about anything and I LOVE Klimt so this one I basically enjoyed. Worth seeing at the movies? Probably not but totally worth renting.)





Fur

(about the BRILLIANT Diane Arbus w/unfortunately Nicole Kidman playing DA. . .I pretty much despise NK in everything so I didn't dig it. And since I have major photography love this one was tragic for me.)





Goya's Ghost

(I liked this because I thought Stellan Skaarsgaard was great but it's still not a great film or anything. Basically weak.)



much better Goya flick IMO was Goya in Bordeaux





Paradise Found

(w/Kiefer Suherland as Gauguin. Eh, passable. . .but I think more so because the scenery and the art are so fucking gorgeous and less to do with it actually being a very good film.)





. . .and so on and so on



The most recent films I saw on this topic were just earlier this year when I was trawling Netflix. I think I was looking up the filmography for Martin Freeman for some reason or another and saw that he had in the past couple of years done a 2-film set with the ALWAYS "way, way out there" and (likely) genius Peter Greenaway directing.



Nightwatching

(Obviously about Rembrandt and his massive The Night Watch painting w/my boy Martin Freeman as Rembrandt---it was only okay for me overall but visually stunning and interesting as Greenaway films always are on the latter tip.)



. . .and then after that ^ theatrical Rembrandt film he released Rembrandt's J'Accuse



(Also about the painting The Night Watch but this time a highly exploratory semi-documentary of sorts which still features actors from the theatrical film playing their same characters from the painting as they did in Nightwatching as PG attempts to literally explore the painting from the inside out not from the typical art appreciation vantage point of being outside the painting and trying to look and examine the technique and motivation inside it. He examines it's history, it's massive amount of characters, and speculates as to some murder highjinks from a forensic point of view---doing WAY interesting things with the camera. It's a little trippy---I sort of loved it for the bravado or cojones or whatever Greenaway had to atempt it. I found it wholly intriguing.)

 

[the canadian dream]

Well aren't you the smart one?



I am going to go watch Love Is the Devil now which i never knew of and because Francis Bacon was a crazy mother ****** who painted my favorite figurative works of all time. I finally saw my first Bacon in person this summer and nearly lost my shit.



that's how real critics talk about art.



"Lost my shit"

"Jizzed in my pants"



Highest praises an artist can get.



John Ruskin and Clement Greenberg don't know shit!!!

 

[bookjones]

Well aren't you the smart one?



I am going to go watch Love Is the Devil now which i never knew of and because Francis Bacon was a crazy mother ****** who painted my favorite figurative works of all time. I finally saw my first Bacon in person this summer and nearly lost my shit.



that's how real critics talk about art.



"Lost my shit"

"Jizzed in my pants"



Highest praises an artist can get.



John Ruskin and Clement Greenberg don't know shit!!!

Guess not dude as evidenced by the RIDICULOUS amount of typos and incomplete fucking sentences in that post of mine that I just had to edit upon re-reading! {{shivers}} WTF? People! Next time I type out something so grammatically pitiful and weakass, tell me! LOL

 

[bookjones]

And while we're at it for shits n' giggles here's an exploratory list of artists I'd like to see films made about and in no particular order:



Lautrec (I am tired of John Huston's 50's biopic defining him to the masses since he is the first artist who's work I truly, madly, deeply fell in love with as a kid and because he's my favoritest!)



David

Ingres

Titian ( or really, ANYONE from the Italian High Renaissance!)

Redon

de Kooning

Rothko

Martin Ramirez

de Lempicka

Kandinsky

Hilla Rebay

van Dongen

Francesco Clemente

de Vlaminck

Gorey

Manet

Goncharova

Braque

Goya (a good film this time, sighs)





. . .and lest we leave out some of my most beloved sculptors:



Giacometti

Henry Moore







. . .and just for good measure some films about specific art subjects as opposed to personalities as I genuinely feel there are some GREAT fucking stories to be mined here:



The WPA

The Fauvists

Der Blaue Reiter

Degenerate Art

The Mexican muralists movement

The Bauhaus





What about you maple tree hugger? Who makes your initial, spontaneous list?







ETA:



Anyone else have a fave they'd like to see immortalized on the big screen? BFFs Ymono and Mass need not state the obvious, the rest of us already know they'd like to see Tom of Finland get a juicy biopic.

 

[Ymono37]

Grammar Hobo, where the **** you been? Off the top of my head I'd have to say Van Gogh is probably the artist who's had the MOST theatrical films done about him! Stretching all the way back to Kirk Douglas' hammy Lust for Life take on Van Gogh, to as Mikita's Helmet pointed out the great Robert Altman film Vincent and Theo---though the best IMO is the French film from back in the 90's Van Gogh and the best documentary is Paul Cox's great film Vincent with John Hurt voicing Van Gogh as he reads VG's letters to Theo.

AHEM! How do you forget about the re-telling of Van Gogh's famous encounter with The Doctor!?!?!?



And you call yourself a fan...

 

[bookjones]

AHEM! How do you forget about the re-telling of Van Gogh's famous encounter with The Doctor!?!?!?



And you call yourself a fan...

Seriously? You're gonna come at me with that kind of attitude and throw down a fandom gauntlet when you already KNOW what the explanation is and what my response is gonna be, "We were talking about Van Gogh FILMS mo-fo!"