Ashton Jeanty

[bearsfan1977]

lol. this all based off one season where no RB in the NFL would have had success behind t hat OL?

No, it is based off of years of this team having a subpar running back corps. Fields masked those deficiencies.

And yes, also off of last year where Roschon is a 4th option on most other teams, and Swift who has never been a back who has top end vision or patience. Get him the ball in space-that’s his strength.

What the hell are you basing your opinion on that Swift and Roschon can elevate the running game with or without a good OL?

 

[Dstone5553]

You get 5 good OL and you can march out the corpse of jordan howard and he would run for 1k yards @DanielCCSBears

If they are free agents.

I don't think you can count on the vast majority of offensive linemen in the draft helping this team that much in '25.

Just seems like that position takes a year to be able to help a team in the NFL.

If one of the top two fall to us at #10 then maybe that's the exception but doesn't feel likely that will happen.

I know nothing about college football of these players, so you guys who do know, know a **** ton more than me but it just feels that way with O linemen.

 

[playthrough2001]

If they are free agents.

I don't think you can count on the vast majority of offensive linemen in the draft helping this team that much in '25.

Just seems like that position takes a year to be able to help a team in the NFL.

If one of the top two fall to us at #10 then maybe that's the exception but doesn't feel likely that will happen.

I know nothing about college football of these players, so you guys who do know, know a **** ton more than me but it just feels that way with O linemen.

There’s a good chance that none of the top offensive linemen are selected before 10. No matter what, it would be idiotic to take Jeanty at 10.

 

[bears51/40]

im also fine having the same shit issues we've had the last decade because we dont invest in the OL/DL

With Johnson as HC the first thing that gets fixed on this team will be the OL. I would expect two new NFL level starters on the interior, if not all three positions. That being said I would also expect Poles/Johnson to add an Edge, two offensive linemen and possibly a RB with their top 4 picks.

 

[bears51/40]

Jerry Jones is not that bright he will over correct for not having a viable RB last year.

Look up the season Rico Dowdle just had. I don't think Jerry will let him walk. Rico just proved he can be their lead back, and just like the Bears they can add to that backfield later in the draft.

 

[Dstone5553]

There’s a good chance that none of the top offensive linemen are selected before 10. No matter what, it would be idiotic to take Jeanty at 10.

I'd be supremely disappointed if they selected Jeanty at 10. The only way I could ever imagine that happening is if Johnson is in love with him and talks Poles into it.

Which isn't going to happen to my way of thinking.

 

[bearsfan1977]

I think if it’s OL it will be Simmons. If not, I suspect it will be DE or DL.

They may and probably will pass on Jeanty. I believe they will also pass on a projected G like Campbell.

 

[bears51/40]

Lol you claiming guys are Pro Bowls level when they have never been to the Pro Bowl and are giving up pressures at an alarming rate.

Look at Jackson's metrics in 2023 where he started 15 of 17 games I believe, something Jenkins has never been able to do. He was hurt this year.

 

[remydat]

Sure, whatever you say.

Everything you ever bring up is based off PFF. There aint no use discussing shit with you, honestly you are prob the worst poster on here cause you never think you're wrong and spiral for pages.

Why would I think I am wrong when you claim people are Pro Bowlers who are top 5 in pressures given up? What info are you using to say he is a Pro Bowler beyond because you say so?

 

[cwcwcwcw1]

I'd be supremely disappointed if they selected Jeanty at 10. The only way I could ever imagine that happening is if Johnson is in love with him and talks Poles into it.

In my view this would be a massive red flag.

I would probably have to be institutionalized after the melt down it would cause me.

 

[remydat]

My mistake.


This is my fear since .... ( EDIT: Minor fear since it wouldn't be the end of the world, just don't like it. )


I fully agree with this.

My point was it depends on FA. Again if he goes out and gets 2 top OL then getting 2 more in the top 4 draft picks is overkill IMO. Especially if a guy like Hampton is just sitting there in the 2nd.

 

[bears51/40]

I think if it’s OL it will be Simmons. If not, I suspect it will be DE or DL.

They may and probably will pass on Jeanty. I believe they will also pass on a projected G like Campbell.

Two things here.
1 You have this insane love for Simmons, who is pre-injured, and won't even see a practice field until August at the earliest. That will probably take him off the Poles/Johnson top 10 list.

2 You like a lot of fans have already assumed that Campbell If that is the pick has to play OG. There are also more draft profiles that list him at LT then as an OG. Also, if it is Banks he is a LT. Josh Conerly is also a fast-rising LT prospect who could very well get into the top 10 conversation.

 

[bearsfan1977]

Two things here.
1 You have this insane love for Simmons, who is pre-injured, and won't even see a practice field until August at the earliest. That will probably take him off the Poles/Johnson top 10 list.

2 You like a lot of fans have already assumed that Campbell If that is the pick has to play OG. There are also more draft profiles that list him at LT then as an OG. Also, if it is Banks he is a LT. Josh Conerly is also a fast-rising LT prospect who could very well get into the top 10 conversation.

-the love for Simmons is not insane; I think he has the best tape at LT of any prospect; I am certainly not alone in that belief
-I agree, the injury may very well knock him off Poles’ board, but no one knows
-I don’t agree with you that most people think Campbell will stay at LT; that is not at all what I am seeing and hearing; more info will be available after the combine with measurements
-I am not at all a fan of Banks or Conerly.

Yes, I’m a fan and not a professional scout, so these are just my opinions.

 

[Da Coach]

Turns out Rocket Raheem transferred to South Carolina. He’d be a good get.

I'll have to look in not familiar with him. I like Mario Anderson Jr out of Memphis. He fights hard for every inch can be had late im pretty sure

 

[pseudonym]

I will say this—it's a great year for RBs and there is a lot of depth at the position. So there will certainly be talent there in the 2nd (or maybe even later). IDK if Jeanty is lights-out, significantly better than RB2 or RB3.

Jeanty
Hampton
Skattebo
Sampson
Kaleb Johnson
Treyvon
Judkins
etc

 

[Runruffshod75]

I think the only player worth trading up for is Abdul Carter.

I wouldnt even do that. Unless it's QB prospect that you believe is a franchise QB or maybe a lock down LT, I'm not really a fan of trading up in the tip half of round 1.

In this era I prefer trading back if you can. You have more first round talents dripping into the top half of round 3 every year. Create as many opportunities to grab as many top 100 players as possible

 

[bearsfan1977]

I wouldnt even do that. Unless it's QB prospect that you believe is a franchise QB or maybe a lock down LT, I'm not really a fan of trading up in the tip half of round 1.

In this era I prefer trading back if you can. You have more first round talents dripping into the top half of round 3 every year. Create as many opportunities to grab as many top 100 players as possible

I agree, depending on how far Carter falls. I think he’s that special.

On your point, if there is smoke around Jeanty and the Bears, I can see DAL calling to see about a trade.

 

[TL1961]

If they are free agents.

I don't think you can count on the vast majority of offensive linemen in the draft helping this team that much in '25.

Just seems like that position takes a year to be able to help a team in the NFL.

If one of the top two fall to us at #10 then maybe that's the exception but doesn't feel likely that will happen.

I know nothing about college football of these players, so you guys who do know, know a **** ton more than me but it just feels that way with O linemen.

If it takes an OL until his 2nd year to be a major contributor, so be it. You still need to draft them. Sooner rather than later.

 

[HearshotKDS]

I think 72 is a potential good spot for a RB like Henderson or Sampson is available there. They could go OT+DT/DE+OG in whatever order with the first 3 picks, grab starting G and C in FA plus one of whichever DL position they dont address on Day 1/2 and have decent answers to the major roster problems while getting a home run threat back to round out the committee and replace Swift after a year or 2. Bears do have 3 RBs under contract for next year granted 1 is Ian Wheeler, so they could decide to kick that can to next year or get a day 3 guy like Rocket Morris or a cheap vet to round out the room.

The team could still make Jeanty in 1st work - they could make S in the 1st work too! But just like my tongue in cheek S example I think going RB at 10 requires making tradeoffs elsewhere that in my opinion make the team worse than just drafting a slightly "lower" prospect at a position of significantly higher need.

Tradedown clownery aside, if the Bears could somewhow find a partner to move back into the teens and gain another 2nd round pick it really opens up their options to "get weird" with the draft.

 

[MDB111™]

Its why i want Warren in FA. He always impresses me more than Najee and can be a good backup for swift and also cheap

Warren is identical to Swift. 5'8 and 215. Same measurements. Swift is quicker. Signing Warren makes zero sense. Harris is the bruiser in Pittsburgh.
Ashton Jeanty and Swift are identical. One is just much better at what he does.
The Bears need a big, 3 down back. No room for 2 of the same guy.

Fantasy wise? yeah Harris sucks. But he is a big, 1000K yd back. The Bears need that or at least draft one to replace Roschon and his brane damage.