Ashton Jeanty

[msadows]

I would argue that you have this backward. A rising OL lifts all RB's.

In addition, improving the OL ( Properly ) also helps the passing game. Two Packers one bullet.

I don't think people are viewing it as an either or. The top end of this RB class is not worth a first round pick. Also the gap between the top of this deep RB class and who they could get with their 3rd or fifth round pick is not wide enough to over spend on.

It's the lines stupid. Both OL and DL. ( not directed at you, just making a joking reference to Clinton here )

Agreed

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Fuk Jeanty.

#BeefBlock

 

[msadows]

No they didnt. Zeitler was not there when they drafted Gibbs. They had Jackson and Vaitai as the expected starters at G.

Again if Johnson wants a RB, who are you to say otherwise? Do you think he cant figure out the OL without your help?

IT was glasgow and jonah jackson, both who are better than any lineman on the bears.

 

[msadows]

Fuk Jeanty.

#BeefBlock

You get 5 good OL and you can march out the corpse of jordan howard and he would run for 1k yards @DanielCCSBears

 

[baselman1974]

Beg pardon? I didn't know that Jeanty went to University of Arkansas....

Didn’t he fire MCCartthy and will hire Shottenheimer? That’s all I need to say.

 

[remydat]

IT was glasgow and jonah jackson, both who are better than any lineman on the bears.

Glasgow has never made a pro bowl and Jackson isnt that great. Jones, Wright and Jenkins all have had better metrics than them the last couple years.

Glasgow was 3rd this year in most pressures given up at G and 4th last year.

How about we let Johnson figure out what he needs?

 

[msadows]

Glasgow has never made a pro bowl and Jackson isnt that great. Jones, Wright and Jenkins all have had better metrics than them the last couple years.

Glasgow was 3rd this year in most pressures given up at G and 4th last year.

If PFF tells you a player isnt good he isnt good

got it

 

[cwcwcwcw1]

Again if Johnson wants a RB, who are you to say otherwise?

I have no doubt that he would like to upgrade the RB room. I expect they will use FA and a good chance they also draft one.
However I think it will take him less them a minute to see that Gibbs >>>>> Jeanty. I think the question is whether they think they need to use one of the two's or the 3rd or the 5th on one of the backs left over after some idiot takes Jeanty in the first.

 

[remydat]

If PFF tells you a player isnt good he isnt good

got it

Lol you claiming guys are Pro Bowls level when they have never been to the Pro Bowl and are giving up pressures at an alarming rate.

 

[remydat]

I have no doubt that he would like to upgrade the RB room. I expect they will use FA and a good chance they also draft one.
However I think it will take him less them a minute to see that Gibbs >>>>> Jeanty. I think the question is whether they think they need to use one of the two's or the 3rd or the 5th on a back or then Jeanty.

I wasnt talking about taking a RB in the 1st. I said Johnson may take one in the 2nd or 3rd as @msadows insist all 4 top picks should be OL/DL.

 

[msadows]

I have no doubt that he would like to upgrade the RB room. I expect they will use FA and a good chance they also draft one.
However I think it will take him less them a minute to see that Gibbs >>>>> Jeanty. I think the question is whether they think they need to use one of the two's or the 3rd or the 5th on a back or then Jeanty.

I just dont see a reason to draft a RB in the top 72 when your OL/DL is in serious need of gamechangers.

Its not likely you will get more than one good player each on the OL/DL in FA, so you will need multiples in the draft.

Personally, like i noted before, I'd trade that #41 pick and #72 to move up into the mid to late 20's and take a guard like tyler booker after drafting an edge at #10, then use the other 2nd round pick to draft another guard, center, or DT.

Poles has shown he loves trading up. If he wants to take a RB in the 5th then sure, but if you fix the OL swift and a FA would be more than good enough.

 

[msadows]

Lol you claiming guys are Pro Bowls level when they have never been to the Pro Bowl and are giving up pressures at an alarming rate.

Sure, whatever you say.

Everything you ever bring up is based off PFF. There aint no use discussing shit with you, honestly you are prob the worst poster on here cause you never think you're wrong and spiral for pages.

 

[cwcwcwcw1]

I wasnt talking about taking a RB in the 1st.

My mistake.

I said Johnson may take one in the 2nd or 3rd

This is my fear since .... ( EDIT: Minor fear since it wouldn't be the end of the world, just don't like it. )

@msadows insist all 4 top picks should be OL/DL.

I fully agree with this.

 

[bears51/40]

If the top rated O limemen are off the board at 10 and a trade down isn't possible, Jeanty may be the best available pick
There will be good O linemen in the second round. So it really
depends on free agency and the way the draft unfolds.

Disagree............I honestly don't think both the OTs are going to be off the board by 10, but if the two top offensive linemen are gone, Campbell and Banks, that leaves 7 players, now the top two QBs are going probably in the top three that leaves 5 players before the Bears pick.
1 Carter edge
2 Hunter CB/WR
3 Graham DT
4 Johnson CB
5 McMillen WR

That leaves the Bears my next five, all defensive players.
1 Mykel Williams Edge
2 Nic Scourton Edge
3 Kenneth Grant DT
4 Jalon Walker Edge
5 Mike Green, my surprise top 10 pick. After the Senior Bowl this guy is going to shoot up the draft boards.

All these guys are Bear needs, you may want Jeantey but you don't need an RB this high. Not when you can probably get a Hampton or Johnson in the second for Johnson's offense. Both are Monty type backs you can pair with Swift.

 

[pseudonym]

I would be shocked if they took Jeanty. We would have to make a LOT of FA moves for this to happen, IMO, and then they better go OL in the 2nd.

 

[bearsfan1977]

I doubt it but you seem like you are willing to bet your life savings on it. I think there is a better chance they use a 2nd and that 3rd to trade back into the late first and take another good player.

MY guess is they go for a cheaper backup RB in FA like warren or javonte.

No one has a crystal ball, but let’s say I am confident one of the early picks will be a rb.

If they take a guy like Simmons in the first and a guy like Neal in the 3rd or 4th, fine.

The Bears have one of the worst rb rooms in the league. Johnson has shown he values good RBs. You are predicting he won’t take a rb in a draft that has a lot of rb talent. I disagree. I think he will, and I think it will be relatively early.

 

[bears51/40]

NFL.com predicts that the bears get Javonte Williams to be that bruiser back.

RB Index: Team fits for six running backs set to become free agents in 2025

Hard pass.........Williams has never been the same since tearing his ACL/MCL.

 

[msadows]

My mistake.


This is my fear since .... ( EDIT: Minor fear since it wouldn't be the end of the world, just don't like it. )


I fully agree with this.

Yea i wont give two fucks if they take a rb in the 2nd/3rd, i just dont think its a good idea or needed.

 

[msadows]

No one has a crystal ball, but let’s say I am confident one of the early picks will be a rb.

If they take a guy like Simmons in the first and a guy like Neal in the 3rd or 4th, fine.

The Bears have one of the worst rb rooms in the league. Johnson has shown he values good RBs. You are predicting he won’t take a rb in a draft that has a lot of rb talent. I disagree. I think he will, and I think it will be relatively early.

lol. this all based off one season where no RB in the NFL would have had success behind t hat OL?

 

[bearsfan1977]

I would argue that you have this backward. A rising OL lifts all RB's.

In addition, improving the OL ( Properly ) also helps the passing game. Two Packers one bullet.

I don't think people are viewing it as an either or. The top end of this RB class is not worth a first round pick. Also the gap between the top of this deep RB class and who they could get with their 3rd or fifth round pick is not wide enough to over spend on.

It's the lines stupid. Both OL and DL. ( not directed at you, just making a joking reference to Clinton here )

And if they go DL or DE at 10, I get it. There is some insane talent at those positions.

But if it’s Jeanty or a guy who has never played G but projects inside at G (Campbell) at pick 10? No one knows if he could even make that transition (I suspect he could). Now if it’s Simmons and they project him to take over at LT? That seems fine to me.

Of course, FA will dictate a lot of the moves Poles makes in the draft. I just have a strong feeling he will take a rb early.