Ashton Jeanty

[Probie2429]

Nothing wrong with drafting a RB high this year but then you better make it clear the team is not competing next year and still building for the future.

 

[msadows]

Nothing wrong with drafting a RB high this year but then you better make it clear the team is not competing next year and still building for the future.

So dont draft a running back high if you actually want to be decent.

Got it!

 

[DanielCCSBears]

He certainly has elite contact balance, but you're too stupid to know what that is.

Considering you thought jordan howard would be the next walter payton I wouldnt listen to a single thing you have to say about a running back.

Ah yes, the new scouting catch phrase "contact balance" for offensivemen it used to be "dancing bear" and now it's "vines for arms."

No one has better contact balance or the ability break tackles or fight through contact than Cam Skattebo. So kindly go eat a bag.

 

[msadows]

Ah yes, the new scouting catch phrase "contact balance" for offensivemen it used to be "dancing bear" and now it's "vines for arms."

No one has better contact balance or the ability break tackles or fight through contact than Cam Skattebo. So kindly go eat a bag.

Contact balance isnt new you stupid ****.

 

[HearshotKDS]

My issue is how good is he actually? Outside of San Jose State, UNLV, and Oregon the defenses he faced rank:

108 in ypc
122 in ypc
128 in ypc
100 in ypc
106 in ypc
117 in ypc
131 in ypc
125 in ypc


He's certainly great but he's beating up on shit defenses. We will see how he performs vs a top 10 penn state run defense tonight, my expectations are not too great.

There are plenty of mid round backs who can likely be good too.

Regardless of whether Jeanty lives up to the hype or not, its just such a tough sell to not go line in the first that I think its almost a non-starter.

 

[jive]

I'd love to have a play maker like Jeanty on this team if our line wouldn't turn him into a bust.

 

[bearsfan1977]

The funny part is he's not that good. He's a dime a dozen with no real elite qualities.

Tonight will probably only inflate his value because all of the primetime TV scouts will get to watch him in person and draw conclusions based on one game.

Don't miss out tonight TV scouts who haven't watched Jeanty all year and have only box score scouted him. He's playing Penn State tonight and if you're from Big Ten country we all know a good game will carry extra weight in your evaluation of him.

Jeanty isn’t that good? He’s a dime a dozen with no elite qualities? Are you being serious?

 

[napo55]

Jeanty or not, this team needs a good RB and a good runing game would be a huge plus for CW. Improving on the O line in free agency and the draft and drafting a quality RB are not mutually exclusive.

 

[mecha]

My issue is how good is he actually? Outside of San Jose State, UNLV, and Oregon the defenses he faced rank:

108 in ypc
122 in ypc
128 in ypc
100 in ypc
106 in ypc
117 in ypc
131 in ypc
125 in ypc


He's certainly great but he's beating up on shit defenses. We will see how he performs vs a top 10 penn state run defense tonight, my expectations are not too great.

There are plenty of mid round backs who can likely be good too.

something I've observed over time is strong offensive players in college don't always translate to the NFL. most defensive players they face in college don't even make it to the NFL. there's a pretty wide talent gap there. to the point about RBs in the modern NFL though, I don't get where people crow about how it's somehow an exclusive passing league. there's strong runners on a lot of teams. it's not like the position went obsolete. I thought the best offenses set up the pass with the run after all. those strong runners I mentioned, I doubt many of them were drafted in the first round. they're pretty dime a dozen and even like 20 years ago it was dumb to draft RBs in the first round.

 

[bearsfan1977]

Theres certainly a decent chance Jeanty is the BPA at where the Bears end up drafting. I hope not, I think thats close to (but not quite) the worst case scenario for the Bears in terms of how the draft plays out. Its so tough to rebuild the O and D line if the Bears spend a first on a RB. Difficult but not impossible, although compounding the difficulty is it requires the Bears to approach FA assuming they are getting Jeanty, since most of the FAs that they need to make drafting RB first work are going to be signed long before the draft. Key among them to me is you need to sign an OT, probably for $18-$25M. And you have to do that before you know who is there at 1, so if you do sign Stanley to $25M or Alaric or someone to $18-20M and then Banks is there at 9 ... well that fuckin sucks. Best thing the Bears can do if the draft does shakeup in a way where Jeanty is BPA is trade down, it takes 2 to tango though and if no one is biting, well then thats just a big ol' draft day dick in the butt for the Bears.

What if the sign Mekhi Becton at RG? Assuming of course Trey Smith doesn’t hit FA. Then a guy like Milum in the 2nd at LG. I think Stromberg has a shot if he gets healthy.

Jones-Milum-Shelton or Stromberg-Becton-Wright. And of course keep investing in OL the following year.

Again, i have Carter, Graham and probably Nolen over Jeanty. But that is not a bad OL for Jeanty to work behind.

And one of the most important things not mentioned is he would make Caleb’s life easier. Even with an average OL, the opponent would be forced to respect the threat out of the backfield.

 

[msadows]

Regardless of whether Jeanty lives up to the hype or not, its just such a tough sell to not go line in the first that I think its almost a non-starter.

100% Dline or OL, idc which, but it has to be one of the two. You win in the trenches.

People would be crying gibbs looks like a hot turd behind this bears OL.

 

[IBleedBearsBlood]

This is so stupid.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

Jeanty isn’t that good? He’s a dime a dozen with no elite qualities? Are you being serious?

Yes. You're caught up in numbers he racked up against inferior competition. He's a good prospect but he's not someone you'd grab in round 1. He's not a generational prospect. He's just another good RB prospect. He's not going to come into the league and take it over. Good player good kid but don't oversell what he'll be in the NFL.

 

[msadows]

Yes. You're caught up in numbers he racked up against inferior competition. He's a good prospect but he's not someone you'd grab in round 1. He's not a generational prospect. He's just another good RB prospect. He's not going to come into the league and take it over. Good player good kid but don't oversell what he'll be in the NFL.

Brought to you by the guy who said that shane ray would be the next terrell suggs

im sure this will age well just like so many of your other stupid ass takes over the years

 

[bearsfan1977]

Yes. You're caught up in numbers he racked up against inferior competition. He's a good prospect but he's not someone you'd grab in round 1. He's not a generational prospect. He's just another good RB prospect. He's not going to come into the league and take it over. Good player good kid but don't oversell what he'll be in the NFL.

No one knows how any prospect will fare in the pros, but saying he doesn’t have any elite qualities just isn’t factually accurate.

 

[msadows]

No one knows how any prospect will fare in the pros, but saying he doesn’t have any elite qualities just isn’t factually accurate.

Dumb as hell take, thats like saying no player from New Mexico could ever be a good middle linebacker because his competition is ass

 

[cwcwcwcw1]

First round running backs are like crack!
It is never a good idea.

This is similar to the Lebron vs Jordan debate.

There is a correct answer and there is a wrong answer.

There is no in between.

If you think a running back in R1 is acceptable ( even rarely ) or if you think Lebron is better then Jordan you're not expressing a different opinion, you're simply displaying your ignorance.

 

[napo55]

First round running backs are like crack!
It is never a good idea.

This is similar to the Lebron vs Jordan debate.

There is a correct answer and there is a wrong answer.

There is no in between.

If you think a running back in R1 is acceptable ( even rarely ) or if you think Lebron is better then Jordan you're not expressing a different opinion, you're simply displaying your ignorance.

So you think drafting Walter Payton in the first round was a mistake?

 

[DanielCCSBears]

This is so stupid.

I know. There are people considering taking a running back in the Top-10. Baffling that after Cedric Benson and Curtis Enis were phenomenal busts after being drafted in the Top-10 by the Bears people are even considering it.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

So you think drafting Walter Payton in the first round was a mistake?

Entirely different era of football.

And do you think drafting Curtis Enis over Randy Moss was a mistake?