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Perhaps not to people who use cognitive thought, but there will be biased people who do nothing more than count rings and overrate Pippen just because they are old timers.
Perhaps not to people who use cognitive thought, but there will be biased people who do nothing more than count rings and overrate Pippen just because they are old timers.
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well.. yeah... Pippen didn't even really play in his rookie year and didn't even become the Pippen we all know today until his 3rd-4th year in the league.
so taking their first 3 years, it's obviously Rose.
But putting Rose ahead of Pippen now all-time as a Bulls player is just either assuming Rose is gonna continue to be this good for many years [with the Bulls] and will win a lot, and get a lot of accomplishments, etc.
That's just too much to assume..
I'd rather wait it out about 2-3 more years
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Is there any reason to think that Rose won't be this good in the next few years? He's just touching his prime as a player. Imo you're right...he won't be this good, he'll be better. As for championships, yeah he might not get any, but that really shouldn't factor is as much as it will. As for accomplishments...what more can we ask for? He's already got ROY and MVP in his 3rd year. I guess he'll just keep racking up the All Star games and perhaps another MVP or two if he's lucky. He's already got more MVP's than Pippen...
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Is there any reason to think that Rose won't be this good in the next few years? He's just touching his prime as a player. Imo you're right...he won't be this good, he'll be better. As for championships, yeah he might not get any, but that really shouldn't factor is as much as it will. As for accomplishments...what more can we ask for? He's already got ROY and MVP in his 3rd year. I guess he'll just keep racking up the All Star games and perhaps another MVP or two if he's lucky. He's already got more MVP's than Pippen...
well he could get seriously injured...
or we can bring in another all-star [maybe a 2 guard] and Rose's numbers will suffer and he wouldn't look as good as he did when he was taking 20 shots per game.
anything can happen in the next few years.
I'm not going to assume that Rose is going to continue to be great or get even better..
I'm gonna hope he does... but having this discussion is a little premature imo.
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Yeah I guess he could Jay Williams or something dumb like that. I don't think Rose would do something like that though. But still, even as is, Rose is pretty darn good.
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well he can get injured on the court... with how he goes to the basket, anything can happen.
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It'd be a shame to say the least if he pulled a Shaun Livingston...
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I said it before and ill say it again, scottie pippen is the most underrated basketball player ever. Rose is gonna have to do a lot to overtake pippen. Pippen was a great basketball player. I honestly see rose evolving into an allen iverson type player. And iverson has an mvp and a few scoring titles. And I still wouldn't put him ahead of pippen.
But if rose has a career similar to iverson and wins a few championships in the process, id give him the nod over pippen.
But if rose has a career similar to iverson and wins a few championships in the process, id give him the nod over pippen.
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Rose isn't a better offensive player than pippen. He's better at attacking the basket and that's about it.
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I think Rose is more Dwyane Wade than Iverson personally...I think offensively he is a better player than Pippen...Pip never garnered the attention of defenses the way Rose does, even in Pip's prime. And I still say Rose doesn't have to win titles to be better than Pippen...those were Jordan's titles, he was the man. Rose doesn't have a Mitch Richmond, let alone a Jordan.
Is Parish greater than Robinson? Rodman better than Barkley? I don't think so. All 4 are great players...but I can say from watching all 4, I would take David Robinson over Parish and I would take Barkley over Rodman...yet Rodman and Parish have rings...that changes nothing for me...Notice Shaq was on the top 50 list too, at that time, he had won no titles...yet he was considered already an all time great.
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Roe will overtake pippen when he becomes 6 foot 7, becomesa the best defender in the league and has 7 championship rings....Oh well, I guess it just won't happen....Pippen will remain number 2 in bulls history...Sorry guys nice try...But don't worry, Derrick Rose will become the 3rd best bull in history...That's pretty nice ain't it?????..I see you guys are trying to get under my skin...I like Derrick Rose but he is no Pippen and certainly not Jordan.....This thread should be deleted just like y'all deleted my "94 bulls vs 2011 bulls in 7 game series the sequel" thread..That was a dirty trick you guys played on me...:flipa::flipa:
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YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JUST SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Scottie Pippen type players don't come a dime a dozen..Especially defensively...The bottom line is , PIPPEN WILL REMAIN THE BULLS SECOND BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME SECOND ONLY TO JORDAN....
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They are being closed for a reason. The thread is dead, let it go
YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JUST SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Scottie Pippen type players don't come a dime a dozen..Especially defensively...The bottom line is , PIPPEN WILL REMAIN THE BULLS SECOND BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME SECOND ONLY TO JORDAN....
he has spoken, put it in stone now
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YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JUST SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Scottie Pippen type players don't come a dime a dozen..Especially defensively...The bottom line is , PIPPEN WILL REMAIN THE BULLS SECOND BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME SECOND ONLY TO JORDAN....
You do a horrible job of analyzing the past...but we are supposed to take your word for it concerning the future? I don't think so.
I think its fairly obtuse to say that Rose won't be better than Pippen because he is not as tall as Pippen...give me a break.
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Hou, do you still think John Wall will be better than Rose?
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Who is Hou???? The basketball genius????
I see the Scottie Pippen hate continues from thread to thread on this site..Its utterly dispicable..Are you guys trying to insult me and make me leave????? LoL.
I think I will stay thank you very much...ChiCitySports for life beeeeeeyotch!!!!!!!