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[Warrior Spirit]

I haven't researched Ketosis or any of that.... what I'm supposed to eat..... etc. But I did read about intermittent fasting and it made sense to me. So I've been doing what you describe here most days. I eat from 12-8 most days of the week. I allow a cheat day every once in a while if we go out with friends. I am literally doing NOTHING different these last few weeks. No more exercise. No big diet changes. And I've lost about 15 pounds. I feel better. And I have to say not eating breakfast has been great for me. Eating food makes me tired. I'd rather go all day without eating and eat a 2000 calorie meal at the end of the day that I like and be done with it.

And black coffee is my friend....

Was reading an article about Alex Smith the other day. It was talking about how prior. To his last season with the Chiefs, he started Intermittent Fasting, eating only between the hours of 12 noon and 8 pm. He said he was able to maintain his weight while reducing his body fat from 10% to 4%. He also said coffee was his friend but specifically mentioned he felt Bulletproof Coffee was a big help. Are you familiar with Bulletproof coffee or ever tried it? It’s a big thing in the Keto community.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

I've never heard of it till today. Will look up.

 

[ShiftyDevil]

Everyone focuses on weight instead of health and this is why we have so many people suffering from shitty diseases that didnt even exist 100 years ago.

I'm sorry, but if the first thing you consider when you put something in your mouth is the effect on your waistline, you're an idiot. Period. A straight up dumbass. That tells me you know absolutely nothing about the effects those nutrients have on you. Which is a shame...

If you're trying to lose fat like I was, both things absolutely matter. There are healthy and unhealthy ways to drop pounds, so what you eat matters as much as how much you eat as far as general health is concerned. With that said, the only way to lose weight is to use more calories than you consume, period.

Speaking for myself, I was an absolute fat ****, so number of calories consumed was definitely the primary driver of my weight loss. My personal experience doing Keto was really positive and I think it's a great option for anyone looking to get their shit together. It forces you to be cognizant of the specific things you're eating, which is always good.

So it really depends on what people are looking for. If you're a person that isn't worried about dropping weight then calories consumed is significantly less important as long as you hit your maintenance level, whatever that might be for the person's activity level. If you don't need to lose weight and are just looking for a better way of fueling your body then what you eat is the most important thing to consider. But, if you're a fatty there is no substitute for eating below maintenance to stop being a fatty.

One of those simple, but not necessarily easy sorts of things. (Though I'd argue once you get into the swing of things losing weight is easy as ****)

To be clear, I'm not an expert in any of this stuff, I'm just speaking for my personal experience this year. I started losing weight at the end of February, and of this morning I'm down 68lbs, so what little I know about this shit was from that process, which means my experience/knowledge is pretty limited.

 

[AussieBear]

If you're trying to lose fat like I was, both things absolutely matter. There are healthy and unhealthy ways to drop pounds, so what you eat matters as much as how much you eat as far as general health is concerned. With that said, the only way to lose weight is to use more calories than you consume, period.

Speaking for myself, I was an absolute fat ****, so number of calories consumed was definitely the primary driver of my weight loss. My personal experience doing Keto was really positive and I think it's a great option for anyone looking to get their shit together. It forces you to be cognizant of the specific things you're eating, which is always good.

So it really depends on what people are looking for. If you're a person that isn't worried about dropping weight then calories consumed is significantly less important as long as you hit your maintenance level, whatever that might be for the person's activity level. If you don't need to lose weight and are just looking for a better way of fueling your body then what you eat is the most important thing to consider. But, if you're a fatty there is no substitute for eating below maintenance to stop being a fatty.

One of those simple, but not necessarily easy sorts of things. (Though I'd argue once you get into the swing of things losing weight is easy as ****)

To be clear, I'm not an expert in any of this stuff, I'm just speaking for my personal experience this year. I started losing weight at the end of February, and of this morning I'm down 68lbs, so what little I know about this shit was from that process, which means my experience/knowledge is pretty limited.

me phat fat fred started in feb... good to see the aussie impackted a fat life in a positive way.. 68 pounds is a large fat chunk.. congrats..

also.. i be read these article today

Let's overreact to Week 4 in the NFL: Is the Bears' offense for real?

12:30 PM
Dan Graziano
ESPN Staff Writer

CHICAGO -- Hey, if the football fans in the Windy City want to overreact, who's going to tell them to cut it out? It has been quite a while since the Chicago Bears were fun, and even with the Chicago Cubs back in the playoffs this town is fired up about a 3-1 first-place football team that just put 48 points on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on its way into the bye. Mitchell Trubisky just quadrupled his season touchdown pass total in one delirious afternoon, and if you're not allowed to overreact to that, what's the point of being a fan?

So let's start with the game I got to see in person as part of my Sunday NFL Countdown duties -- a game that was 38-3 at the half and ended 48-10 as Trubisky buried the Bucs' weeklong QB controversy with six touchdown passes of his own against a Tampa Bay team that couldn't do a thing right no matter who was taking the snaps.


Mitchell Trubisky had the best game of his young career, throwing for 354 yards and six TD passes. Jonathan Daniel/Getty Images

The Bears' offense is now as good as their defense
If you're a Bears fan who has been waiting to see the vaunted Matt Nagy offense that lit the league on fire last year in Kansas City, Sunday was your day. Nagy was scheming dudes open and leaning on mismatches with speedsters Tarik Cohen and Taylor Gabriel, and the Tampa Bay defense had no answers. Gabriel scored two touchdowns, including one on a nifty jet-action shovel pass at the goal line. He and Cohen each had seven catches and more than 100 receiving yards as Nagy went away from between-the-tackles running back Jordan Howard and leaned instead on the super-fast dudes he knew the Bucs' defenders couldn't catch. For the first time, Trubisky looked like a quarterback worthy of the 2017 No. 2 overall pick.

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Graziano's verdict: OVERREACTION. Fun, without a doubt. But the Bucs came into the game 27th in defensive DVOA, are banged up in the secondary and are averaging 34.75 points per game allowed. It's important to understand context. Bears players to whom I spoke about this game said they saw something good coming with Trubisky -- that they believe he has been developing the way they'd hoped he would. But no one here is assuming this is the way it's going to look every week. It takes awhile to master the Andy Reid offense Nagy brought from K.C. Alex Smith wasn't driving a league-leading passing attack until Year 5. One day of mastery doesn't mean everything is hunky-dory. What Bears fans should take from this is excitement and hope that this can be what it looks like, eventually. But the defense -- which, by the way, had another monster game with Khalil Mack wreaking havoc in the backfield -- is what will drive the Bears' NFC North title aspirations for this year at least. "It's like the LeBron effect," Bears cornerback Prince Amukamara told me of the Bears' preseason addition of Mack to an already-strong defense. "He just makes everybody better. When you see greatness like that up close, it just makes everyone else want to be great that much more."

Chicago Bears' torrid defense shows no signs of cooling off
Sep 30, 2018 Updated 3 hrs ago 0

Chicago Bears' torrid defense shows no signs of cooling off
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The general consensus is that the Bears’ defense cannot possibly continue the torrid pace that it’s set in the early going, but there was no slowdown in Sunday’s 48-10 thrashing of the Buccaneers.

The Bears added four more sacks to their league-leading total of 14, and their three interceptions gave them eight for the season, matching their 16-game total in each of the previous three seasons. The interceptions came from S Eddie Jackson, which was his team-best second, OLB Aaron Lynch and ILB Danny Trevathan.

The high-flying Tampa passing game came in averaging 400.7 passing yards per game but managed just 251 at Soldier Field. The Bucs came in averaging 473.3 total yards per game but were held to 311 by the Bears.

“You get better or you get worse,” Trevathan said. “In this situation, we’re getting better. There’s no complacency with this defense. We’re a good defense; we know that. No one is going to come in here and put on a show on our field.”

OLB Khalil Mack who came in tied for the NFL lead with four sacks, added a fifth. He became the first NFL player to force a fumble in each of the first four games of a season and the first player since Robert Mathis in 2005 to have a sack and a forced fumble in four straight games.

“We’re getting better every week,” Mack said of a defense that has allowed fewer points in each week, starting with 24 in the season-opening loss to the Packers, 17 against the Seahawks and 14 against the Cardinals in Week Three. “It’s not just about me. You see the guys on the back end making plays, and that’s what you want to see. It’s a good feeling, especially going into the bye.”

Surviving and thriving

The first NFL start for undrafted rookie CB Kevin Toliver came Sunday against the Bucs, the NFL’s No. 1 passing offense, and he more than survived it.

Matched up frequently with Tampa’s 6-foot-5, 231-pound WR Mike Evans, the 6-foot-2, 192-pound Toliver helped hold the perennial Pro Bowler to just 59 receiving yards, less than half his 123.3-yard average.

“He’s a good player,” Toliver said. “I respect him a lot. On the field we were talking back and forth, I was telling him that I respect him; he told me just keep working. He had a couple catches on me, but I just had to still go out there and compete.”

The Bucs behind backup QB Ryan Fitzpatrick came in to Soldier Filed having thrown for 1,202 yards, the second most in NFL history for the first three games of a season. But the Bears sent Fitzpatrick to the bench after a lackluster first half. Jameis Winston returned to his customary No. 1 spot after serving a three-game suspension to begin the season. But he didn’t fare much better, tossing two of the Bucs’ three interceptions.

 

[Scoot26]

Was reading an article about Alex Smith the other day. It was talking about how prior. To his last season with the Chiefs, he started Intermittent Fasting, eating only between the hours of 12 noon and 8 pm. He said he was able to maintain his weight while reducing his body fat from 10% to 4%. He also said coffee was his friend but specifically mentioned he felt Bulletproof Coffee was a big help. Are you familiar with Bulletproof coffee or ever tried it? It’s a big thing in the Keto community.

Does he eat during the football game on Sundays?

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Does he eat during the football game on Sundays?

I would guess he makes an exception for game day. When Nick Foles was with the Chiefs, he got both the other 2 QBs, Smith and Bray, into what he was already doing with Intermittent Fasting.

I think it safe to say the Eagles won the SB because Nick Foles was fasting and drinking bulletproof coffee.

 

[Urblock]

Eat little and drink beer and jose. Works

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Eat little and drink beer and jose. Works

You’re suppose to get all that drinking out of your system when you’re young. I did all my drinking and drugs when I was younger so I could be in Ketosis when I was older and regenerate.

 

[Urblock]

Whatever

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Another thing to add: the longer your body is in a state of ketosis, the more "carb resistant" your body can get. Now, this will vary person to person depending on your metabolic makeup. For me, I have slowly started adding complex carbs back into my diet again, and am up to about 40g net carbs a day while maintaining around ~6.0 mmol/l on the ketone 40s scale.

Just for reference, this was after about 4 months of a strict diet containing ~15g net carbs a day.

That's incredibly high. Would suggest you're not using much energy or getting bogus readings in order to stay at that level. What are you using to measure? Ideal is considered to be .5 to ~ 3.

 

[Novak]

That's my readings in the morning upon waking up, midstream sample from first piss of the day. I realize it's a tad high, but it's consistently in that range. It's not unheard of at all..

You seem like a guy that does a lot of cardio and lifting. I do not. As I said, maybe 3-4 times a week, light to moderate. I also work a desk job, so I'm on my ass a lot.

This is what I use to measure.

Perfect Keto Ketone Testing Strips: Test Ketosis Levels on Low Carb Ketogenic Diet, 100 Urinalysis Tester Strips Best for Accurate Meter Measurement of Urine Ketones Tests https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MUB7BUV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_AjxOBbFRHTZQT

 

[Warrior Spirit]

That's my readings in the morning upon waking up, midstream sample from first piss of the day. I realize it's a tad high, but it's consistently in that range. It's not unheard of at all..

You seem like a guy that does a lot of cardio and lifting. I do not. As I said, maybe 3-4 times a week, light to moderate. I also work a desk job, so I'm on my ass a lot.

This is what I use to measure.

Perfect Keto Ketone Testing Strips: Test Ketosis Levels on Low Carb Ketogenic Diet, 100 Urinalysis Tester Strips Best for Accurate Meter Measurement of Urine Ketones Tests https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MUB7BUV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_AjxOBbFRHTZQT

Ahh, the urine tests, that's why. They aren't at all accurate. Thought you were using one of the blood testers like keto mojo or something. Not something you need to invest in though as the actual numbers aren't that big of a deal. The way the scale goes is anything from .5-3 is considered optimal. Over 4 is when you're in therapeutic ketosis. You'd usually be in the .5-2 range unless you keep carbs extremely limited/next to nothing while also taking in 75% fat or more in your diet.

 

[Novak]

Ahh, the urine tests, that's why. They aren't at all accurate. Thought you were using one of the blood testers like keto mojo or something. Not something you need to invest in though as the actual numbers aren't that big of a deal. The way the scale goes is anything from .5-3 is considered optimal. Over 4 is when you're in therapeutic ketosis. You'd usually be in the .5-2 range unless you keep carbs extremely limited/next to nothing while also taking in 75% fat or more in your diet.

Yeah I don't even bother with the urine tests most days. It's just one of those things that when ya know ya know.

Also, since I was slowly adding carbs back in, I was mainly using them just to verify ketone production was still happening. Don't care much about the level.

 

[AussieBear]

why are you two forsaking the traditional ketosis macros and opting for higher cals now?

 

[Warrior Spirit]

why are you two forsaking the traditional ketosis macros and opting for higher cals now?

I'd say I'm still at very low carbs, below a net carbs of 20g 60% of the time and no more than 50g the rest of the time. Considering the average American eats 350g of carbs a day, I think 50g would still be considered extremely low and would still keep me in ketosis. I also have no desire to lose anymore weight cause I lost another 10 pounds without trying to after losing more than expected before the summer so no worries about it in that way. It's also not very bad sugary or junk carbs I'm allowing in. Some of the things highest in carbs, that I allow for, is a sweet potato which is ~ 25 net carbs, maybe a bit more if I get a huge one. For snacks (in my 8 hour eating window) I'll take some celery and dip it in peanut butter. There's also this new bread line in stores now called 647, each slice having 4 net carbs. I don't overdo it with that but just like it to have a piece of toast with butter w/eggs and bacon sometimes or an occasional sandwich with peanut butter and sugar free jam. The 1 fruit I still like to eat every now and then is pineapple. I never eat all these carbs mentioned on the same day, when I eat 1 of these things that has 25 or more carbs that's the only one I'll eat for the day. There's also a lot of days I don't eat any of them.

I did an experiment for 2-3 weeks, tracking calories and macros and eating the amount of calories the app set to maintain weight and ended up losing that 10 more pounds so proof enough for me my metabolism rate is fine even in my old age after doing some crazy shit. Think I'm gearing up to go completely IF. Never liked counting calories, that little experiment was probably the only time I ever have. Don't want to count macros anymore cause it bores me. I'll still get my good fats in and pretty much keep everything else the same, just don't want to always be thinking about it. The way I eat won't change from what I've been doing, it's done too much good for me to make me even consider going back to a standard high carb diet but I just don't like the feel of doing it so religiously or tracking it in anyway. I've done it long enough that its become habit and can just come natural now. The 16/8 IF already comes naturally for me as I always started eating about noon anyway so noon til 8 works real good for me.

 

[Novak]

why are you two forsaking the traditional ketosis macros and opting for higher cals now?

Because I can.. and they are good complex carbs most of the time, not shit ones.

As I explained earlier, the longer you're in ketosis, the more you can "bend" the macros and not get kicked out of ketosis. Your body is an incredible thing: it adapts.

 

[Urblock]

I just eat when I'm hungry. Works for me

 

[Novak]

I just eat when I'm hungry. Works for me

Yeah I think you've said this a few times

 

[Warrior Spirit]

I just eat when I'm hungry. Works for me

We are all super happy for you because we all love you. But for 7 out of 10 Americans, it doesn’t work. The video I put up previously shows why. It’s not exactly a calorie in/calorie out thing. Your caloric needs would change from day to day, hour to hour and even minute to minute anyway. And you’re not as likely to put as much fat on if you’re eating meat and veggies as if you were eating a bunch of sugary junk food and drinks. Just common sense.

For people who need to lose weight, they want to stop eating so much and the way to do that is through a better diet sans all the carbs. It’s the carbs raising insulin constantly every time you take in these sugary foods that triggers other hormones which tell your brain you’re hungry and require more of the sweet stuff. It’s an endless cycle til you do something to stop it. When you do stop spiking your insulin so high with the bad food you make it crave or let it stay at base level for longer periods of time, the amount and frequency of your hunger dissipates and the rest is easy.

So for those, besides Urblock, who need to lose fat, you don’t get hungry cause you’re starving. You get hungry cause you eat too much sugar so your body keeps demanding more cause it’s easy to both burn and store as fat. When you stop giving it all that sugar constantly throughout the day, it has to resort to burning that fat it’s been storing all those years for you.That’s a good thing.

 

[AussieBear]

We are all super happy for you because we all love you. But for 7 out of 10 Americans, it doesn’t work. The video I put up previously shows why. It’s not exactly a calorie in/calorie out thing. Your caloric needs would change from day to day, hour to hour and even minute to minute anyway. And you’re not as likely to put as much fat on if you’re eating meat and veggies as if you were eating a bunch of sugary junk food and drinks. Just common sense.

For people who need to lose weight, they want to stop eating so much and the way to do that is through a better diet sans all the carbs. It’s the carbs raising insulin constantly every time you take in these sugary foods that triggers other hormones which tell your brain you’re hungry and require more of the sweet stuff. It’s an endless cycle til you do something to stop it. When you do stop spiking your insulin so high with the bad food you make it crave or let it stay at base level for longer periods of time, the amount and frequency of your hunger dissipates and the rest is easy.

So for those, besides Urblock, who need to lose fat, you don’t get hungry cause you’re starving. You get hungry cause you eat too much sugar so your body keeps demanding more cause it’s easy to both burn and store as fat. When you stop giving it all that sugar constantly throughout the day, it has to resort to burning that fat it’s been storing all those years for you.That’s a good thing.

protein raises insulin too.. not juss carbs..

i wonder how much dna/ancestry plays a part in dis.. indians be fairly skinny and they diet is high carb.. many asians eat a lot of carbs.. prior to the refined white rice thay be eat the brown rice n sweet potatoes i thinks..

i know on me moms tribal side... they ancestors ate a lot of sweet potatoes/millet n other greens as they main carb source and fish/wild pig/deer as they main protein.. so perhaps my body would respond to dat guud.. but i still have lots of mut in me other shared n mixed ancestry.. me large irish chunk would have me eating oats.. curd..milk.. butter.. cabbage , some meat etc.. prepotato speaking..