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protein raises insulin too.. not juss carbs..

i wonder how much dna/ancestry plays a part in dis.. indians be fairly skinny and they diet is high carb.. asians eat a lot of carbs.. prior to the refined white rice thay be eat the brown rice..

i know on me moms tribal side... they ancestors ate a lot of sweet potatoes/millet as they main carb source and fish/wild pig/deer as they main protein.. so perhaps my body would respond to dat guud.. but i still have lots of mut in me n other dna.. me large irish chunk would have me eating oats.. curd..milk.. butter.. cabbage , some meat etc.. prepotato speaking..

Yes, there is a process which occurs wherein if the body runs out of sugar to burn, it will first look to take excess proteins and convert and use it as sugar. This is why the Keto diet not only severely limits carbs but also puts a limit on protein, the idea being to only provide the amount of protein required by the body rather than have a surplus of protein which the body would just essentially use as carbs anyway.
 

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protein raises insulin too.. not juss carbs..

Wrong. Again. Didn't bother reading the rest of your post when you're going to spread dumbass shit like this.

The ONLY time your body attempts to convert proteins into glucose (you know.. the thing that affects insulen production in the pancreas) is when there is either 1) insufficient carbohydrates, or 2) insufficient fats. This is why the ketogenic diet is a moderate protein, high fat diet. To avoid this.

As long as your fat intake is higher than your protein intake, your body will NEVER attempt to convert proteins to glucose. It will use fats to produce ketones instead.

Where do you even come up with this shit? In-between ice cream sandwiches and bags of doriotos while foruming about your weight loss?
 

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Wrong. Again. Didn't bother reading the rest of your post when you're going to spread dumbass shit like this.

The ONLY time your body attempts to convert proteins into glucose (you know.. the thing that affects insulen production in the pancreas) is when there is either 1) insufficient carbohydrates, or 2) insufficient fats. This is why the ketogenic diet is a moderate protein, high fat diet. To avoid this.

As long as your fat intake is higher than your protein intake, your body will NEVER attempt to convert proteins to glucose. It will use fats to produce ketones instead.

Where do you even come up with this shit? In-between ice cream sandwiches and bags of doriotos while foruming about your weight loss?

i didn't elaborate on anything else.. i just be said protein raises insulin..

sandwich and sandwiches be different.. same fer.. a few chips vs a bag..

mang u be got anger issues or redding incomprohendos

dont be go cultish on me... you hangry?? eat a snickers betty.. n calms down
 

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i didn't elaborate on anything else.. i just be said protein raises insulin..

dont be go cultish on me... each a snickers betty..

sandwich and sandwiches be different.. same fer.. a few chips vs a bag..

mang u be got anger issues or redding incomprohendos
But protein has 0 effect on glucose production as long as you don't go higher on proteins than both of the 2 way more efficient energy sources available. Your body converting proteins into glucose is highly inefficient, and only something your body does out of a last ditch need.

I don't think you understand how any of this works.. so probably best to stop making statements that are stupid.
 

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But protein has 0 effect on glucose production as long as you don't go higher on proteins than both of the 2 way more efficient energy sources available. Your body converting proteins into glucose is highly inefficient, and only something your body does out of a last ditch need.

I don't think you understand how any of this works.. so probably best to stop making statements that are stupid.

neither do you in reality..

you seem to be blaming carbs.. go tell all the high carb cultures who be skinny that they need to stop eating carbs cause they is fat... ill wait....

btw... i know i dont know anything.. i dont go pounding gavels like i be got all the answers.. thats cultish n Special person.. its not like i be sum dr or research scientist in dis field running experiments on a large sample size... is u? the only experiment im running is on meself.. im collecting me data..

as far as me foruming me losses.. dont worry it should vanish at some point.. once crys gets around to me request of killing off aussie and all of aussies meta.. how long will that take??? ask crys

u cult ppl r be scary.. seem so angry n defensive.. muss be some sort of nutritional deficiency or sumin..
 

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neither do you in reality..

you seem to be blaming carbs.. go tell all the high carb cultures who be skinny that they need to stop eating carbs cause they is fat... ill wait....

btw... i know i dont know anything.. i dont go pounding gavels like i be got all the answers.. thats cultish n Special person.. its not like i be sum dr or research scientist in dis field running experiments... is u? the only experiment im running is on meself.. im collecting me data..

as far as me foruming me losses.. dont worry it should vanish at some point.. once crys gets around to me request..

u cult ppl r scary.. seem angry.. muss be some nutritional deficiency or sumin..
You can have a high carb diet and be skinny as long as your caloric intake is lower than your caloric output. Wtf are you talking about?

Healthy =/= skinny, you dorkchop.

There are serious health benefits to not eating carbs that reach far beyond what your waistline measures. That is the entire reason I've embraced this lifestyle. I'm not some fatass with a dad bod I'm trying to lose that doesn't care if his kids end up being autistic or worse.. Don't push your "diet" goals off on me.

You're a moron. Your one goal is to lose weight. Awesome, eat less and workout more, you'll drop the weight. That's not hard to do unless you're an idiot. You won't have to worry about carbs at all. Just be a urblock then.

If you want to be healthy and insure what happens to the very mass majority of people as they age, along with their children, we can talk.

Otherwise, stfu. Stop spreading nonsense.
 

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You can have a high carb diet and be skinny as long as your caloric intake is lower than your caloric output. Wtf are you talking about?

Healthy =/= skinny, you dorkchop.

There are serious health benefits to not eating carbs that reach far beyond what your waistline measures. That is the entire reason I've embraced this lifestyle. I'm not some fatass with a dad bod I'm trying to lose that doesn't care if his kids end up being autistic or worse.. Don't push your "diet" goals off on me.

You're a moron. Your one goal is to lose weight. Awesome, eat less and workout more, you'll drop the weight. That's not hard to do unless you're an idiot. You won't have to worry about carbs at all. Just be a urblock then.

If you want to be healthy and insure what happens to the very mass majority of people as they age, along with their children, we can talk.

Otherwise, stfu. Stop spreading nonsense.

but but but what about all the high carb cultures that live longs time??????????

now we talking the calorie in/out model... is it just calorie in/out any other possible factors.. biggest losers ate less/workedout mo.. dropped weight n killed the base n mosst got bigger in d end... so is they mo to dat model too??

did you do duh research and have ye publish papers on dis subject???

btw im not pushing my diet goals on you... you is pushing your holy path on us though... u cant even see it.. repent or go to hell... its the carbs... im just reporting on meself... bigga difference again.. christ y is you so menopausal.. u now is resorting to personal name callings.. hahahahha.. what a fucking tard.
 

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but but but what about all the high carb cultures that live longs time??????????

now we talking the calorie in/out model... is it just calorie in/out any other possible factors.. biggest losers ate less/workout mo.. dropped weight n killed the base... so is they mo to dat too??

did you do duh research and have ye publish papers on dis???

btw im not pushing my diet goals on you... you is pushing your holy path on us though... u cant even see it.. repent or go to hell... its the carbs... im just reporting on meself... bigga difference again.. christ y is you so menopausal.. u now is resorting to personal name callings.. hahahahha.. what a fucking tard.
I think you're forgetting who told who that "da proteins turns to da glucose 2 ya know if ya eats it when ya eats dindin"

You are free to do what you wanna do. I'm not preaching anything. If you choose to post Special person shit that other people are going to see and (god forbid) possibly follow, I'm going to call you out on being a Special person.

If you'd like me to stop, you're free to either stop posting Special person shit, or just stop posting.
 

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Imagine calling someone a tard while eating an ice cream sandwich in Australia while working off your dad bod... Lmfao
 

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I think you're forgetting who told who that "da proteins turns to da glucose 2 ya know if ya eats it when ya eats dindin"

You are free to do what you wanna do. I'm not preaching anything. If you choose to post Special person shit that other people are going to see and (god forbid) possibly follow, I'm going to call you out on being a Special person.

If you'd like me to stop, you're free to either stop posting Special person shit, or just stop posting.

i never mentioned glucose... u did.. hahahaha... you be arguing yoself.. n attacking some1 in the process for not mentioning it.. hahaha.. mang thats so 2018 snowflake fo show...

but its ok snowflake... ill stop.. i know you cant help yoself.. me and urblock will juss go to hell.. cause u aint preaching at all..

still no answer for all the skiinny long living carb pppls in duh world though huh??

anyone with a mind be know you dont know shit... u just know what ye think ye know.. u aint got all the answers.. its okay to admit it.. cause no one be does..

just tell crys to kill my shit off quicker n ill stop aussiebear posting... the request for deletion has been in fer awhile but i dont want to harass him while hes recovering from his shit and while hes probably be making up other more important pressing work he losted time to...

i madeded this request to rush too..
 

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Imagine calling someone a tard while eating an ice cream sandwich in Australia while working off your dad bod... Lmfao

is that it??

dats lmfao funny??..

i find watching an insular dunning kruger preacher mo funny...

but thats juss me..

to each they own fatha.. ya holeyass
 

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Imagine not understanding the correlation between glucose and insulin but posting like you do anyways, then expecting people to read your posts
 

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Imagine not understanding the correlation between glucose and insulin but posting like you do anyways, then expecting people to read your posts

once again snowflake.. argue yoself mo... i didnt make or bring up anything else.. i just said protein raises insulin.... true or false?
 

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once again snowflake.. argue yoself mo... i didnt make anything.. i just said protein raises insulin.... true or false?
False. First there has to be glucose production, or there's literally no reason for your pancreas to produce insulin to regulate said glucose. Basic biology.

I'm not responding to anymore of your posts. There's not a point. Have a great time typing.
 

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False. First there has to be glucose production, or there's literally no reason for your pancreas to produce insulin to regulate said glucose. Basic biology.

I'm not responding to anymore of your posts. There's not a point. Have a great time typing.

u be cant read huh...

so according to you... i didn't say protein raises insulin and nuffin else.. do i need to quote meself...

man with all duh answers...

btw....go preaching no carbs be the answer in india. cause you know they is fat and dont live long..

the cult is strong in ye...

btw.. way to up yo carb intake while bashing carbs at the same time.. .. it be makes perfect sense...it explains it all. naw what i mean ya holeyass.... so yeah follow dat preacher... dont sin as i sin
 

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u be cant read huh...

so according to you... i didn't say protein raises insulin and nuffin else.. do i need to quote meself...

man with all duh answers...

btw....go preaching no carbs be the answer in india. cause you know they is fat and dont live long..

the cult is strong in ye...

btw.. way to up yo carb intake while bashing carbs at the same time.. .. it be makes perfect sense...it explains it all. naw what i mean ya holeyass.... so yeah follow dat preacher... dont sin as i sin
The title of this thread is all about Autoph-agy. For that purpose, the purpose of the body cleansing itself, taking out the trash, regenerating and repairing damaged cells and proteins and having an anti-inflammatory effect on the body, you do want to keep carbs out of the way. It's because constant insulin spikes get in the way of it and don't allow autoph-agy to occur. You need insulin out of the way for long periods of time to make it happen.

I said before I don't think carbs will kill you, but I do think they're a big part of the problem as to why people in this country are overweight and generally unhealthy on a large scale. I don't think you can point to other cultures and say they're carb heavy and skinny. You don't really know their whole diet or eating habits like that. And, obviously, there are many variables. Sugar is a carb and nobody is going to be talking about the health benefits of sugar. By now, all know it is a bad thing you don't want much of, hence all the sugar substitutes. In this country, I believe more than any other, so much of the store bought food is heavily processed. That not only robs it of its nutrients but there seems to be hidden sugar in just about everything. There's actually over 50 different names for sugar you can find on labels. It's not just that this country has a heavy carb diet, it's that it's a heavy sugar diet from all the sodas and juices to all the processed foods.
 

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The title of this thread is all about Autoph-agy. For that purpose, the purpose of the body cleansing itself, taking out the trash, regenerating and repairing damaged cells and proteins and having an anti-inflammatory effect on the body, you do want to keep carbs out of the way. It's because constant insulin spikes get in the way of it and don't allow autoph-agy to occur. You need insulin out of the way for long periods of time to make it happen.

I said before I don't think carbs will kill you, but I do think they're a big part of the problem as to why people in this country are overweight and generally unhealthy on a large scale. I don't think you can point to other cultures and say they're carb heavy and skinny. You don't really know their whole diet or eating habits like that. And, obviously, there are many variables. Sugar is a carb and nobody is going to be talking about the health benefits of sugar. By now, all know it is a bad thing you don't want much of, hence all the sugar substitutes. In this country, I believe more than any other, so much of the store bought food is heavily processed. That not only robs it of its nutrients but there seems to be hidden sugar in just about everything. There's actually over 50 different names for sugar you can find on labels. It's not just that this country has a heavy carb diet, it's that it's a heavy sugar diet from all the sodas and juices to all the processed foods.

i think i can comment on other countries a lil, being ive been to and lived in other cuntries......and live in another cuntry now..well, i can comment a lil on cuntries that ive been to atleast...

me immigrant indian friend who just invited me ova the other day be eat carbs all day and his family is skinny as.... comes from a family of generational non meat eaters.. his old ass mom looks early 50s though shes late 80s...its cray cray....flawless skin..........they dont eat meat...nor eggs...... well 'all day' is a bit much.. but carbs are their bulk items for every meal they do eat... they food is sooo good.. looking at their food.. protein is on the low side.. but they get some from nuts/seeds, milk, curd, yogurt, beans and paneer. fats are high though..

at the same time there be fat carb ppl in other countries.... so i aint banging no gavel saying carbs arent an issue....

duh processed western foods probably dont help the developed world at all... highly refined carbs and gmo carbs genes mixed with other possible fat causing processed and gmo foods...idk..pesticides, hormones n antibiotic laced massed produced foods??..... i aint no scientist no dr. but muricas ways be infiltrating countries n getting em fat.. is ppl getting away from they ancestry dietary archetypes n dis is also causing issues?//////////

currently ive been eating more food in me one meal and working out less (less time and less intensity) then me last go around.. dropping weight..

last time, i ate more times, but a lil less calories, way more carbs, worked out more and dropped weight..

in duh way past ive worked out harder, eating even more than both above and lost weight (cutting after bulk) to where i wanted to be..then maintained that weight fer years.. until i moved abroad eating different produced shat..... became completely inactive n sedentary... lost muscle.. then got fatter year by year by year and here i be.

herschel walker be dat omad and murican legend... eats soup and bread fer his meal... minimal proteins. dunno what else be in the soup though.. but according to him he doesnt focus on meats or proteins in general.. so im assuming it be a veg heavy soup. he been doing this shit since 16,17,18 .. i dont remember specifically now
 

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i think i can comment on other countries a lil, being ive been to and lived in other cuntries......and live in another cuntry now..well, i can comment a lil on cuntries that ive been to atleast...

me immigrant indian friend who just invited me ova the other day be eat carbs all day and his family is skinny as.... comes from a family of generational non meat eaters.. his old ass mom looks early 50s though shes late 80s...its cray cray....flawless skin..........they dont eat meat...nor eggs...... well 'all day' is a bit much.. but carbs are their bulk items for every meal they do eat... they food is sooo good.. looking at their food.. protein is on the low side.. but they get some from nuts/seeds, milk, curd, yogurt, beans and paneer. fats are high though..

at the same time there be fat carb ppl in other countries.... so i aint banging no gavel saying carbs arent an issue....

duh processed western foods probably dont help the developed world at all... highly refined carbs and gmo carbs genes mixed with other possible fat causing processed and gmo foods...idk..pesticides, hormones n antibiotic laced massed produced foods??..... i aint no scientist no dr. but muricas ways be infiltrating countries n getting em fat.. is ppl getting away from they ancestry dietary archetypes n dis is also causing issues?//////////

currently ive been eating more food in me one meal and working out less (less time and less intensity) then me last go around.. dropping weight..

last time, i ate more times, but a lil less calories, way more carbs, worked out more and dropped weight..

in duh way past ive worked out harder, eating even more than both above and lost weight (cutting after bulk) to where i wanted to be..then maintained that weight fer years.. until i moved abroad eating different produced shat..... became completely inactive n sedentary... lost muscle.. then got fatter year by year by year and here i be.

herschel walker be dat omad and murican legend... eats soup and bread fer his meal... minimal proteins. dunno what else be in the soup though.. but according to him he doesnt focus on meats or proteins in general.. so im assuming it be a veg heavy soup. he been doing this shit since 16,17,18 .. i dont remember specifically now
I don't know what your friends eat but I'd assume it's nothing like the heavily processed food here in this country and the diet in India varies from region to region and has a lot to do with what people can afford and what is made available to them.

Reason I don't really pay much attention to these claims of this or that culture living on carbs is cause I've seen so much bs along the way. Seems like everybody, media especially, wants to push heavy carbs as a good thing. I do assume you can eat healthy on carbs but America's typical carb diet is in no way healthy. In fact, this country consumes more sugar, on average, than any. I remember reading some articles on the Japanese diet being heavy carb and low fat. But look at what they typically eat. Heavy seafood which is more fat. A lot of soy which is heaviest in fat. A lot of green veggies, not high in carbs. Noodles, mostly Shirataki which have virtually 0 net carbs. I guess it's the association with rice that makes people say they eat high carbs but they eat small portions and a wider variety of food. The grains they eat are also less about sugar and have more fiber. And the beverage of choice in Japan is unsweetened green tea. Typical Japanese diet has less than half the amount of sugar a typical American diet does. Don't see how you can call it a low fat, high carb diet.

I am familiar with Herschel Walker's diet and exercise. The guy is strange but in a thread about autoph-agy, there's really no better example. You're right, he says he's been doing OMAD since he was 16-18 years old. I've also heard him say he does longer fasts up to 4 days sometimes. So, basically, with OMAD he's doing a 23 hour fast every day and would be getting the very most out of autoph-agy. And when talking about taking control of your insulin level, how could you control it anymore than by just eating once a day? I don't think it matters what he eats, you ain't getting fat just eating one meal a day your whole life. I don't know how many calories he takes in cause he doesn't count them. It is basically soup, salad and bread that he says he eats. He's also said he eats chicken occasionally. He does own a chicken company so I'm sure he's not opposed to it.

He is an odd character but what he does takes incredible will especially with his workout routine. He only does and ever has done bodyweight exercises but does a hell of a lot of them. Says he sleeps only 4 hours a day and does thousands of pushups and situps as well as a lot of other things like squats, dips and sprinting. He's an interesting case study to be sure.
 

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I don't know what your friends eat but I'd assume it's nothing like the heavily processed food here in this country and the diet in India varies from region to region and has a lot to do with what people can afford and what is made available to them.

Reason I don't really pay much attention to these claims of this or that culture living on carbs is cause I've seen so much bs along the way. Seems like everybody, media especially, wants to push heavy carbs as a good thing. I do assume you can eat healthy on carbs but America's typical carb diet is in no way healthy. In fact, this country consumes more sugar, on average, than any. I remember reading some articles on the Japanese diet being heavy carb and low fat. But look at what they typically eat. Heavy seafood which is more fat. A lot of soy which is heaviest in fat. A lot of green veggies, not high in carbs. Noodles, mostly Shirataki which have virtually 0 net carbs. I guess it's the association with rice that makes people say they eat high carbs but they eat small portions and a wider variety of food. The grains they eat are also less about sugar and have more fiber. And the beverage of choice in Japan is unsweetened green tea. Typical Japanese diet has less than half the amount of sugar a typical American diet does. Don't see how you can call it a low fat, high carb diet.

I am familiar with Herschel Walker's diet and exercise. The guy is strange but in a thread about autoph-agy, there's really no better example. You're right, he says he's been doing OMAD since he was 16-18 years old. I've also heard him say he does longer fasts up to 4 days sometimes. So, basically, with OMAD he's doing a 23 hour fast every day and would be getting the very most out of autoph-agy. And when talking about taking control of your insulin level, how could you control it anymore than by just eating once a day? I don't think it matters what he eats, you ain't getting fat just eating one meal a day your whole life. I don't know how many calories he takes in cause he doesn't count them. It is basically soup, salad and bread that he says he eats. He's also said he eats chicken occasionally. He does own a chicken company so I'm sure he's not opposed to it.

He is an odd character but what he does takes incredible will especially with his workout routine. He only does and ever has done bodyweight exercises but does a hell of a lot of them. Says he sleeps only 4 hours a day and does thousands of pushups and situps as well as a lot of other things like squats, dips and sprinting. He's an interesting case study to be sure.

maybe carbs arent the devil unless they is mr agent orange gmoeded carbs combined wiff the gmoeded/horomoes/antiboitic meats raised on gmoeded feed.. idk. i know me indian friends buy a lot of they shit they use from indian stores that import stuff... i know milk is local and some veg is too..

ive been to japan only briefly n be got japanese friends back in the usa, but they be assimilated they diet to semi murican some.. they parents not as much. me family lived in japan when my dad was stationed their.. one of my bros was born there.. when i was japan i noticed carbs and less (non fish) meat especially w portion sizes fer sure.. as opposed to when i lived in south korea and they portion sizes of meat.. dem koreans def seemed bigger n taller on avg than the japoeknees..

walker is definitely an interesting case study.. i wonder if he ever put out a book detailing his diet mo. after about 4-6 weeks of me omad i will introduce me first 48 hr fast... if that goes fine, ill probably do one every week.. last meal will be monday night.. then i will eat again wed night..

right now i do band work wed and sat with the following thurs and sun being a rest day.. most of me band work is upper body fer now and since the heavy bag is the base of me exercise program, im trying to limit bands to 2 days a week then rest the next day to not completely overwork me upperhalf. . fer now the band training is still light.. but its gotten more intense each time... even if its just a minimal increase. but that 48 hr fast will include band training at 40-44 hrs in

i like chicken but i think i read somewhere that eating alot of chicken/eggs raised on soy feed could cause estrogen issues in mens.... cant remember where i be read that. i guess thats why the organic pasture raised be a thang.. or look for non soy fed birds/eggs..... i tried looking up what me chicken was fed with but i cant find anything..
 

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