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In all fairness, the article references a date of 1998, when was it that common knowledge that galaxies might have shapes other than spiral?

http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu//full/1957PASP...69..291M/0000302I002.html

there has been knowledge about galaxies being other than spiral for a very long time.

On the other side of things,it could be argued the fact that not all galaxies are spiral-shaped may still not be common knowledge. I guess it may be now, but that's besides the point. It's a work regarding "scientific research", so a lot of it isn't supposed to be common knowledge.
 

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Actually it does. You need a mechanism to use that energy otherwise take a look at everything around you. Do to the sun, it heads toward disorder.

The law only applies to a closed system. The sun supplying energy to the Earth means it isn't a closed system.
 

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There is evidence of objects outside the universe, or even that the Big Bang was a Big Bounce involving a collapse followed by an expansion... but it would not be surprising at all if other universes were proven (not talking about parallel universes), and the Oort Cloud is almost definitely real, it's only "hypothetical" because we haven't detected the actual objects yet.
 

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Let me help. The article says asteroids are parts unused from the creation of the solar system and did not get pulled in to be planets. That's the stuff of fiction not science. Even those that have faith in stellar evolution do not believe asteroids are 4.5 billion years old. Comedic genius.

What I don't get is if you are so religious then why do you have the number of a *** phonesex line above your avatar?
 

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http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu//full/1957PASP...69..291M/0000302I002.html

there has been knowledge about galaxies being other than spiral for a very long time.

On the other side of things,it could be argued the fact that not all galaxies are spiral-shaped may still not be common knowledge. I guess it may be now, but that's besides the point. It's a work regarding "scientific research", so a lot of it isn't supposed to be common knowledge.

Thanks. I see that it's suggested but not proven from the 1957 article. Just to be clear, I am not doubting the existence of other shapes.
Right and since it isn't common knowledge, man can't really hold someone to their belief prior to the "common knowledge" right?
 

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The law only applies to a closed system. The sun supplying energy to the Earth means it isn't a closed system.

The Sun is outside of the closed system of the universe? If you take that the universe is closed, then the processes within follow the law and isn't that what we see?
 

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There is evidence of objects outside the universe,
https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclie...73,d.b2U&fp=46c83184b0067790&biw=1920&bih=976

There is?

or even that the Big Bang was a Big Bounce involving a collapse followed by an expansion...
Evidence or interpretation of the evidence?
but it would not be surprising at all if other universes were proven (not talking about parallel universes),
I'm open to the idea that there are other universes, but so far i've seen no proof of that.

and the Oort Cloud is almost definitely real, it's only "hypothetical" because we haven't detected the actual objects yet.
This is scientific or faith based?
 

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Why would they have to land on the asteroid? Some theories of mining asteroids use limitations of gravity in space to their advantage. Anyhow, if it's feasible and the benefit is worth the investment, then at some point landing on certain space objects will be a reality.

O, but you do see how that is fantasy at this point, right? It's like me saying if it's feasible and worth the investment Mars will be farmland and thus a reality of farmlands on Mars.
 

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O, but you do see how that is fantasy at this point, right? It's like me saying if it's feasible and worth the investment Mars will be farmland and thus a reality of farmlands on Mars.

I did say it sounded like sci-fi in my original post on the topic(that you quoted). But it's possible and will be a reality at some point.
 

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12 Year Old Genius Challenges Big Bang Theory
Students of the Bible--Big Bang Theory Goes Against Common Sense

This kid is basically just saying the Bible is right and scientists are wrong. Not sure why that's news.

Although since he believes the world is only a few thousand years old I wonder how he explains the dinosaurs.
 

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This kid is basically just saying the Bible is right and scientists are wrong. Not sure why that's news.

Although since he believes the world is only a few thousand years old I wonder how he explains the dinosaurs.

What do you mean explain the dinosaurs? Like former White Sox Carl Everett explanation that it was a trick played by Satan or that man and dinosaur lived together?
 

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I think so, for tax evasion. But does being in jail negate anything he supports with scientific fact?

Care to point me to the facts? I see nothing but boneheaded theory.
 

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First off: Listing a large amount of people who believe something is evidence of nothing. I could provide you with a list of living people that believe they are Christ that I'm relatively sure would be miles longer than the one you provided...does that make any of them right in your estimation?

Second: The material that makes up Halley's Comet did not exist until "recently?" Or was it not expelled from outer-space into a more regular orbit until recently? You really need to specify/articulate your arguments better or we all end up sitting around asking what the hell you meant by statement ______. For instance; what do you mean by "The Oort Cloud...creates..." If you're simply being intentionally obtuse or vague then I wouldn't make any complaints about other people's debating tactics if I were you.
Exactly. Want us to list every scientist that believes in the BBT, or the Old Space idea? This website couldn't handle it. I have to laugh at some of the names on there as well.

Psychologist? How is that credible or even relevant? Immunologist? Zoology? Dentist? DVM(vets)? Creationist Plant Physiologist? Watershed Science? Food Scientist? Philosopher? Creationist Molecular Bioloigst? PLASTIC SURGEON?! Sickle Cell Anemia Dr? Eye Disease Researcher? Architectural Engineer? Electrical Engineering? Geography?

Is brett serious with some of the shit on this list?

This is just dumb.
 

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What do you mean explain the dinosaurs? Like former White Sox Carl Everett explanation that it was a trick played by Satan or that man and dinosaur lived together?

How it’s possible that scientists have shown that they lived millions of years ago when he believes the earth is only a few thousand years old.
 

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How it’s possible that scientists have shown that they lived millions of years ago when he believes the earth is only a few thousand years old.

They have showed this? Any links? I've seen links of man and dinosaur footprints being found in the same layer of rock, but no evidence of the dinosaurs being millions of years old
 

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They have showed this? Any links? I've seen links of man and dinosaur footprints being found in the same layer of rock, but no evidence of the dinosaurs being millions of years old

I thought it was pretty common knowledge actually. Something I learned in grade school.
 

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