Bears made a mistake taking Williams over Daniels?

[hyatt151]

you mct not watched any lions or Eagles games

 

[Neckbeard]

I don't know...are you capable of doing that?

Again, do you have any point? Guy posted 8 game stats after Waldron removed...and also posted that same arbitrary 8 game period of Jayden Daniels stats (rib injury, tho). So, why were Daniels' stats also cherry picked? Is your point that Shane Waldron being gone also had an impact on Jayden Daniels?

Wow, go back to bed. You need another 12 hrs to rest your brain.

 

[Hoodey]

I hope that's not your only argument.

To this point, Daniels has been better than Caleb. One is not only in the playoffs, but he's also actually won a playoff game. The other led his team to a last place finish. Those are just facts.

Will Caleb end of having a better career when it's all said and done? Maybe - There's at least that hope. Right now, today, however, he's clearly behind Daniels in every meaningful way.

Time will tell, nothing else will.

But here’s the thing and it goes back to cutler. I’m telling you how this is going to end just like I told people how cutler would end. So, if I’m right and he isn’t great, next time there’s a shiny new toy, are you gonna say “I was dead wrong, maybe I should demand more of the bears front office people in identifying a QB with value” or will you have amnesia and start telling people they just don’t get it if they don’t think the shiny new toy is John Elway? Because they bears have had a lot of shiny new toys at QB in my life and none of them have been passed for as many yards as a bear as Tommy Kramer did in his career

 

[Hoodey]

Yep but if Williams lit it up year 1 he’d be every bit as generational as people hyped him up to be.

Every player they don’t draft sucks or is the benefactor of coaching and surrounding talent and the Bears players are just a year away from being the best players of all time.

And people go to where they moved the goal posts and remember this city from there. Yeah maybe halfway through 2007 many of Rex grossman’s biggest fans had turned on him. Halfway through 2006? This city was every bit as much behind him as they are behind Williams now. They KNEW IT and you 100% didn’t understand if you couldn’t grasp the greatness of that chunky little… guy. And if you were like “look, these are the results against the better defenses. He can’t play!” They’d act like they didn’t know that good and bad defenses can yield different results to a QB lol.

And the overwhelming majority of this city knew he’d be great. It felt like the same amount as cutler and Williams. And they ALWAYS know. And I’m waiting for the day when 80% of this city says “you know all the times I definitely know, it turns out u didn’t know shit.”

But no. They act like this is the first time they ever shoved a shiny toy on everyone.

“Rex grossman? No way. That was smaysmoughit. Im play through it. We are totally different people” lmao

 

[DanielCCSBears]

Jayden Daniels down the field accuracy is far superior I won't deny that. He hits balls better than Caleb Williams.


The question is can Jayden Daniels and Caleb Williams do all of the things in the pocket necessary to win championships.

It's one thing to be as good as Tua Dak or Baker it's quite another to win the Super Bowl.
Once again we're going to find out who can beat the Chiefs.

 

[MadOne 77]

Article should have read "Bears make mistake and ruin #1 Pick" Jayden would have been folded if he was on Bears this year. Caleb might even have had a better year than Daniel's if he was in a competent situation.

 

[abegibronreborn]

But here’s the thing and it goes back to cutler. I’m telling you how this is going to end just like I told people how cutler would end. So, if I’m right and he isn’t great, next time there’s a shiny new toy, are you gonna say “I was dead wrong, maybe I should demand more of the bears front office people in identifying a QB with value” or will you have amnesia and start telling people they just don’t get it if they don’t think the shiva new toy is John always? Because they bears have had a lot of shiny new toys at QB in my life and none of them have been passed for as many yards as a bear as Tommy Kramer did in his career

You're correct about the front office. Anytime they have a choice between two or three things, they invariably pick the wrong one.

For decades now.

 

[Nelly]

So every QB who was good his rookie year is RG3 and every QB who wasn’t is Peyton manning. Got it.

Just saying. If you need a different example, Stroud was the second coming of Jesus last year. He had a 100.8 passer rating. This year? 87.0. Caleb's was 87.8, with a terrible coaching staff and all sorts of turnover there midseason with one of the worst offensive lines in the game.

Anyone who's writing off Caleb already is out of their fucking mind.

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

Just saying. If you need a different example, Stroud was the second coming of Jesus last year. He had a 100.8 passer rating. This year? 87.0. Caleb's was 87.8, with a terrible coaching staff and all sorts of turnover there midseason with one of the worst offensive lines in the game.

Anyone who's writing off Caleb already is out of their fucking mind.

I guess its amazing that Stroud is still playing in 2025 and Caleb is not!

 

[Neckbeard]

I guess its amazing that Stroud is still playing in 2025 and Caleb is not!

lol. . Considering what the Texans defense did to the Chargers and how Stroud threw an awful pick and looked out of sorts, yes, it is amazing.

 

[Hoodey]

Just saying. If you need a different example, Stroud was the second coming of Jesus last year. He had a 100.8 passer rating. This year? 87.0. Caleb's was 87.8, with a terrible coaching staff and all sorts of turnover there midseason with one of the worst offensive lines in the game.

Anyone who's writing off Caleb already is out of their fucking mind.

No matter how good a QB is the first year, they must survive the DCs going to work on their game that first offseason. I’m not saying Daniels will be the greatest. He also must survive this. Stroud can’t play against cover 2. The league knows it.

 

[jsu34]

lol, yeah sometimes the experts are wrong man. Wasn’t Tyson supposed to destroy Holyfield? Wasn’t USC the best all time and incapable of losing to Vince young.

I get it. A lot of people were wrong about Williams, not just you and the bears

Hilarious how the language around Williams has changed and how it shows that QB obsessed bears fans are so full of shit.

Before the season he was generational. This week on the score he was “one of the best young QBs.” Lol. It would be so much better if you grossman cutler Williams lovers had the balls to stick to your appraisals

How do you even know whether I said Williams was it or not? Maybe I wanted the haul. Maybe I preferred Daniels. Point is it doesn't matter. The experts (meaning not people on a message board) that analyze players for a living had CW rated #1 at the time of the draft.

You are still not getting it. It is what it is.

You need to move on.

 

[NCChiFan]

Thread full of retrospect wanna be gm's... So yes, Bears made a huge mistake passing on 6th rounder Tom Brady.

Edit CW is the best young rookie qb I've seen start off for the Bears. He will be fine given an improvement to the O line, and a better O Coordinator.

 

[abegibronreborn]

I guess its amazing that Stroud is still playing in 2025 and Caleb is not!

Stoud has had a pretty good start to his career. And Demeco Ryans has shown that he can coach.

Houston is far from a perfect team, but they seem to be headed in the right direction.

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

lol. . Considering what the Texans defense did to the Chargers and how Stroud threw an awful pick and looked out of sorts, yes, it is amazing.

Wow, you are like the Unsinkable Molly Brown....no matter how bad your takes are, you just keep doubling down. So if I am understanding you correctly, CJ Stroud and Jayden Daniels are the two luckiest QBs in NFL history (playing at the same time!) while Caleb Williams is the unluckiest player in NFL history? Such an alignment of planets to make all of this happen concurrently.

CJ Stroud has won more playoff games in 2 years than the Bears have in the last 18. Great stuff!

 

[Neckbeard]

Wow, you are like the Unsinkable Molly Brown....no matter how bad your takes are, you just keep doubling down. So if I am understanding you correctly, CJ Stroud and Jayden Daniels are the two luckiest QBs in NFL history (playing at the same time!) while Caleb Williams is the unluckiest player in NFL history? Such an alignment of planets to make all of this happen concurrently.

CJ Stroud has won more playoff games in 2 years than the Bears have in the last 18. Great stuff!

Texans vs Chargers game. You really thought Stroud had any part in winning that game? Football stupid. Just take a break, you need it.

 

[Hoodey]

How do you even know whether I said Williams was it or not? Maybe I wanted the haul. Maybe I preferred Daniels. Point is it doesn't matter. The experts (meaning not people on a message board) that analyze players for a living had CW rated #1 at the time of the draft.

You are still not getting it. It is what it is.

You need to move on.

And sometimes experts are wrong. Why don’t you get? If you can’t be right when experts are wrong then you don’t end up with Brett Favre or Aaron Rodgers. You end up using 7 first round picks since the 90s without one guy who passed for as many yards as a bear as Tommy Kramer. Favre and Rodgers have both more than doubled the all time leading passers in bears history.

When are the bears fans going to wonder when the organization will pick a guy 13th and have people say “they got a steal!”

The bears could have had this past season, probably with an extra win or two, with Aidan O’Connell

 

[playthrough2001]

The bears could have had this past season, probably with an extra win or two, with Aidan O’Connell

He’s a nice young guy from the area and I met his parents in the United Club at the 2023 Raiders game. I don’t want to knock him but are you out of your mind?

We get it. Every Bear fan but you loved Grossman. Every Bear fan but you loved Cutler. You love Kyle Orton and other Bear fan think you’re nuts.

 

[jsu34]

And sometimes experts are wrong. Why don’t you get? If you can’t be right when experts are wrong then you don’t end up with Brett Favre or Aaron Rodgers. You end up using 7 first round picks since the 90s without one guy who passed for as many yards as a bear as Tommy Kramer. Favre and Rodgers have both more than doubled the all time leading passers in bears history.

When are the bears fans going to wonder when the organization will pick a guy 13th and have people say “they got a steal!”

The bears could have had this past season, probably with an extra win or two, with Aidan O’Connell

Because it doesn't matter. You don't seem to get that. What's done is done.

You think they can just undo the season and redo the draft?

Like I said it means nothing.

 

[Anytime23]

For everyone who loves to talk about how good Washington’s coaching is, can you provide any receipts from CCS of you wanting to hire any of the Washington coaches? I imagine 1 in every 20 “it’s the coaching” poster can provide this.