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Two things i didnt learn itt, ray's an idiot, vash is an idiot. knew it all along...
#calledit
#calledit
He may be right and McDonald didn't actually do anything but from the Bear point of view, they were clear that he shouldn't be in a position for anything like this to happen. Dudes had his chance and fucked up regardless of the circumstances. Bears are in fuck it mode.
http://mmqb.si.com/2015/05/26/ray-mcdonald-arrest-release-chicago-bears-nfl/
Made the front page news on the MMQB this morning....
Bears need to come out and make a statement to do some damage control, just come out and say we screwed the pooch on this one and were sorry. All they can do at this point.
Lot of hindsight, Monday morning QBs in the media today that just need to shut the F up. This comment following the article sums it up well...
"so you talk to the accusers counsel and he says ray is a terrible guy that did terrible things. then you talk to ray and his counsel and they say she is lying. where does that get you? signing him to a zero tolerance policy is / was the right thing to do given there has not been a trial or preponderance of evidence (ie, ray rice style). nfl owners are not judges, they are the chairmen or organizations who tap into a pool of limited resources for talent and make calculated risks. in this case, there was no risk. i am a bears fan and i applaud them being bold enough to give a second chance, smart enough to make it a zero tolerance / zero guaranteed risk and savvy enough to sign a talent in the first place. imagine if he was a good citizen and it worked out? upside, lots of upside. it didn't work out and what do you have? zero downside except for some media pundits sitting on their throne with 20 20 hindsight vision."
What I like is Bears fans applauding responses like Kyle Long's. We're clearly not the Patriots fans making apologies for cheating, or Vikings fans wondering if childbeater AP is coming back. We gave you a shot, grudgingly, and you fucked it up. Good riddance, Ray.
Hahahahahaha! There are very coherent arguments as to why someone shouldn't care about this whole thing.Incompetent at what, predicting the future, reading minds, peering into souls?
Considering I'm not surveyed for their ratings book and I don't buy a single product advertised on their show, I have absolutely nothing to do with them being on the radio. In addition, I'm hardly a regular listener. I spend most of my time on XM.
Hahahahahaha! There are very coherent arguments as to why someone shouldn't care about this whole thing.
Then there is this.
If you didn't see this coming (a screw up screwing up) from a mile away, you are almost certainly an idiot. But yes, George would have needed the ability to read minds to know that this was coming. Turns out I must have esp too! LOL!
You act like the bears assumed some kind of risk.
The bears took on zero risk. Zero stakes. And they had a chance at a very productive player.
Didn't work out and guess what? There are zero consequences for the bears. zero. The season does not start for 3 months. By then, this shit will be completely erased from public consciousness.
Lets recap:
Bears made a move with zero risk because there was zero consequence if it didn't work out.
So what is the problem again?
Sorry, I must have missed where you called this. I guess yours was a silent protest. #calleditafterithappenedHahahahahaha! There are very coherent arguments as to why someone shouldn't care about this whole thing.
Then there is this.
If you didn't see this coming (a screw up screwing up) from a mile away, you are almost certainly an idiot. But yes, George would have needed the ability to read minds to know that this was coming. Turns out I must have esp too! LOL!
LOL! Ok, you got me. You know what my thoughts were. Maybe YOU are the one that can peer in to people's soul. Please don't stop, you're killing me.Sorry, I must have missed where you called this. I guess yours was a silent protest. #calleditafterithappened
Please cite where I said George lied.He did do those things though. It's not like the McCaskey's lied and made that stuff up. On the surface, McDonald's apology and gesture seemed sincere at the time. It is unheard of for a free agent player to buy his own plane ticket and meet with the owner to offer an apology before being signed. The hearts of the Bears upper management was in the right place.
Ok...what did you expect Bernstein to be talking about?Nope... was listening to Goff in the morning and was late to change to Waddle... Caught a bit of his tired act and click...
then on to Kirwan and Miller...
Mulligan said this morning that Urlacher hired an off-duty Cook Country Sheriff to drive with him to that Hinsdale Oasis, where there were cameras, specifically so shit like this wouldn't happen to him. It's amazing to me that more guys (or maybe they do, and because they do this we don't hear about it) don't do this.No one but the 2 of them know if anyone got pushed around. The point is that he should have never been alone with that women under any circumstances. Its enough to get him canned on the stupidity clause.
I know you and I had an exchange earlier....was this meant for me?Maybe you lack compression, I never said you did not think it. Just always amused at those that come on here and crow about what they knew but lacked to mention before it happened. #Nostradamus
You still think you need some sort of extra sensory powers to believe that Ray McDonald would continue his MO? Maybe I should be your life coach. I can tell you not to let the "reformed" burglar live with you and things like that.Maybe you lack compression, I never said you did not think it. Just always amused at those that come on here and crow about what they knew but lacked to mention before it happened. #Nostradamus
You still think you need some sort of extra sensory powers to believe that Ray McDonald would continue his MO? Maybe I should be your life coach. I can tell you not to let the "reformed" burglar live with you and things like that.
Where did I say there it was a bad risk? I said they saw it coming. The contract supports that. I personally didn't like it because I didn't like the guy, but as far as football risk, there wasnt much.
Great, so you go let your kids play with a child rapist because you aren't sure what might happen(not saying McDonald is this). The bears knew better than to have blind faith, which was the reason for the contract being not guaranteed. He saw it coming. No esp. If you only react to surety then you are surely as much a fool as the other poster. Its a terrible point.Think you are having trouble with the difference between something being a surety and something being a possibility.
Wrong. The contract does not support this. If they saw this coming, there would be no contract. The contract validates that they thought this was a possibility.
No, Gilder the omniscient.I know you and I had an exchange earlier....was this meant for me?