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[MassHavoc]

Update:

Computer has been chugging along fine for my nephew. Many e-mails, shared links, and a few phone calls, and he has modded it himself. Installed a GTX 980, cut out 2 holes and put in filters for airflow, and upgraded the ram to 16GB.

Running like a champ, he's considering SSD, and I'm worried I created a vidiot and my brother and sister-in-law may ban me from calling or visiting. Awesome uncle though.

So, I'm not trying to be rude just curious, if he was going to mod it with a new video card, more ram, and probably a new hard drive. Why did you worry so much about what system you were getting him. Could have just got something more barebones that was easily upgradable?

 

[Xuder O'Clam]

So, I'm not trying to be rude just curious, if he was going to mod it with a new video card, more ram, and probably a new hard drive. Why did you worry so much about what system you were getting him. Could have just got something more barebones that was easily upgradable?

I didn't know he would do this. He started asking me a ton of questions, and we exchanged many e-mails and DIY links, and he went for it.

And it wasn't so much what computer, but I wanted him to have the monitor. Also, my grief was not in choosing, but with how ridiculous BestBuy was with the whole affair. So, I do kind of take your reply as a bit rude.

 

[botfly10]

Update:

Computer has been chugging along fine for my nephew. Many e-mails, shared links, and a few phone calls, and he has modded it himself. Installed a GTX 980, cut out 2 holes and put in filters for airflow, and upgraded the ram to 16GB.

Running like a champ, he's considering SSD, and I'm worried I created a vidiot and my brother and sister-in-law may ban me from calling or visiting. Awesome uncle though.

Dude, I am so happy to hear he was able to get a 980 in there. Thats awesome. That makes the whole rig pretty damn nice.

As far as the ssd, here is some info you can pass along if you want...

The SSD will not improve gaming performance in terms of fps at all. Though it will reduce load times, the in game experience will be no different.

An SSD will reduce system startup time and app/game startup time by kind of a lot tho. Its one of those things that you dont really need unless you are working with huge files (like editing video or something) but once you get used to, is hard to go back to a hdd.

 

[MassHavoc]

I didn't know he would do this. He started asking me a ton of questions, and we exchanged many e-mails and DIY links, and he went for it.

And it wasn't so much what computer, but I wanted him to have the monitor. Also, my grief was not in choosing, but with how ridiculous BestBuy was with the whole affair. So, I do kind of take your reply as a bit rude.

Oh I get the grief it was a horrible ordeal. No need to take anything as rude. I was just remember a lot of discussion over specs, but maybe that's crossing over into other threads and I was wondering if he was going to upgrade it why waste the time and effort just for a monitor. But as you said, you didn't know he was going to upgrade it.

 

[MassHavoc]

Dude, I am so happy to hear he was able to get a 980 in there. Thats awesome. That makes the whole rig pretty damn nice.

As far as the ssd, here is some info you can pass along if you want...

The SSD will not improve gaming performance in terms of fps at all. Though it will reduce load times, the in game experience will be no different.

An SSD will reduce system startup time and app/game startup time by kind of a lot tho. Its one of those things that you dont really need unless you are working with huge files (like editing video or something) but once you get used to, is hard to go back to a hdd.

If he does go SDD (which I know it's different but I swapped it out in my PS4 and while it's not a huge difference due to the hardware limitations I'm happy I did) they are getting really cheap now if you wait for the right deal, but how do you think the WD buying Sandisk will affect that. I, at least in the distant distant past have always through of WD as a pretty quality drive (don't know if that still holds up) and Sandisk to be servicble but very competitive on price. Do you think between the two they can compete in the arms race with Samsung? As I typically hear Samsung has the best SSD?

 

[Xuder O'Clam]

He does a lot of photography editing also. I think he just wants to go ssd for bragging rights and that feel you get when you have a nasty rig. I think he's hooked, and I've created a fellow gaming/hardware geek. Not great for relations with the sister-in-law.

P.S. - That monitor is the tits. G-Sync is the real deal. If I had that monitor, I would be right back into gaming.

 

[MassHavoc]

He does a lot of photography editing also. I think he just wants to go ssd for bragging rights and that feel you get when you have a nasty rig. I think he's hooked, and I've created a fellow gaming/hardware geek. Not great for relations with the sister-in-law.

P.S. - That monitor is the tits. G-Sync is the real deal. If I had that monitor, I would be right back into gaming.

If I had the money and the space I'd love to get back in to building my own systems, it's been a long time though, so now I just pretend. And here is where it shows... what's G-Sync and why is it so great? Especially for gaming?

 

[Xuder O'Clam]

G-Sync is basically a hardware version of V-Sync, reducing tearing and artifacting while having little to no effect on framerate and resources.

The drawback is it is proprietary to nvidia. You need a card and monitor that support it straight from a Displayport 1.2 connection.

 

[MassHavoc]

G-Sync is basically a hardware version of V-Sync, reducing tearing and artifacting while having little to no effect on framerate and resources.

The drawback is it is proprietary to nvidia. You need a card and monitor that support it straight from a Displayport 1.2 connection.

So does G-sync replace V-Sync, or do they work together?

 

[Xuder O'Clam]

It replaces vsync. It does the reverse of what vsync does, i.e. the monitor adjusts to the card, not vice versa.

 

[botfly10]

He does a lot of photography editing also. I think he just wants to go ssd for bragging rights and that feel you get when you have a nasty rig. I think he's hooked, and I've created a fellow gaming/hardware geek. Not great for relations with the sister-in-law.

P.S. - That monitor is the tits. G-Sync is the real deal. If I had that monitor, I would be right back into gaming.

If he is editing big ass photo files like tifs or raw a ssd could make a pretty noticeable difference.

And yeah, I want one of those monitors pretty bad. Just too expensive for me right now. I bet the next generation of the IPS 1440, 144hz gsync monitors will come down in price a lot. Hopefully, anyway.

 

[botfly10]

Gsync is basically Vsync, but at a variable rate. It syncs the monitor refresh rate to the fps your graphics card is putting out, so they are always the same.

With vsync you get input lag. No added input lag with gsync. But also, with Vsync, tearing is mostly eliminated, but there is stuttering when your gpu drops below 60 fps. Gsync eliminates both tearing and stuttering and makes shit silky smooth through all the fps spikes and dips. Further, it goes all the way up to 144hz so you aren't wasting that high refresh rate monitor by enabling vsync to stop tearing and capping your shit at 60 fps

Personally, I have heard that if you had to choose between 1080p with gysync and 4k without gsync, the 1080p is a better experience. And if you go 1440 gsync, then its the shit.