Bill Simmons Tweet on Melo for Noah

[Gustavus Adolphus]

For a writer your grammar sucks.

For a "basketball fan" your knowledge of the game sucks.

Do you write children's books?

Also, did you just "settle" for being more pathetic than Lefty?

Nice.

:clap:

Nobody is more pathetic than Lefty.

 

[FirstTimer]

Will you be my best friend?

Of course.

:date:

 

[TheStig]

They are more like John Paxson/Gar Forman haters. They need to find some talking points to make their little internet radio show seem interesting to their 3-5 weekly listeners.

And, apparently, they don't realize that the statement

"The Bulls should trade Noah and Deng for Anthony"

is an opinion. Not a fact (as they claim). They claim that they have PROVED that it is a fact...

It's like one huge joke that they are playing on themselves.

Clearly anyone not toeing the company line is a hater. I don't agree with everything they do and I think they will be the first to admit they aren't perfect.

Trading Deng and Noah for Melo pretty much is a no brainer. You don't get top talent with out giving up something of value.

 

[TheStig]

i duno. jordan, bird/miller and pao gasol would probably win. The sheer amount of talent on that teams is overwhelming.

i mean i concede that defense wins championships etc, but seriously overwhelming offensive talent trumps good defense. for their positions, wade lebron and bosh are pretty good defensive players. All of them can block shots, rebound, and score. this isn't a bad defensive team. if they can get a mediocre talent at center, they should be fine. if not, they can shift bosh to center. he's not terrible at the position, and he pretty much playd it in toronto. also if either arroyo or chalmers can step it up, they'll be more than fine at each position.

I was being sarcastic.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

.......AND Noah's value is high right now. Seems like a perfect time to me.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

In my opinion, that trade would be closing the door on trying to make a realistic run at a Championship. They might get a little better... but that roster (even with a decent C added later) doesn't compete with Miami.

Also, in my opinion, 'Melo isn't going to sign-and-trade with any roster that he doesn't want to play with. If he negates the NJN deal, I don't see Denver with a lot of options outside of that Deng+Gibson deal... do the Knicks really have a better offer?

 

[Lefty]

Odd.

Didn't know I had an internet radio show.

What's higher on the "Pathetic-meter":

Internet radio show host

or

Shitty writer for a website full of idiots?

I thanked this post, but I want you to know I did so begrudgingly.

 

[Lefty]

For a writer your grammar sucks.

For a "basketball fan" your knowledge of the game sucks.

Do you write children's books?

Also, did you just "settle" for being more pathetic than Lefty?

Nice.

:clap:

Okay, that's not cool.

 

[Lefty]

They are more like John Paxson/Gar Forman haters. They need to find some talking points to make their little internet radio show

You do realize that FT has no part in the show, right?

seem interesting to their 3-5 weekly listeners.

More like 20-40 live, with 150+ archive listens, but ok.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Didn't Rami call in one night?

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Now I do. I apologize to FT for putting him on that level.

 

[Lefty]

Didn't Rami call in one night?

He did, but I don't remember what it was about. But now I can look forward to a "I just wanted to try to help your puny little show out, I probably doubled the listenership lolololol" post from him, so thanks.

Also Prope, Gaelic LOVES the show, so you can just go piss into the wind for all I care. :bigfinger:

 

[Lefty]

Now I do. I apologize to FT for putting him on that level.

Good one, dope.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Taking a shot at your radio show was a cheap shot, so I do apologize.

However, I still disagree with your notion that facts = opinions.

 

[FirstTimer]

In my opinion, that trade would be closing the door on trying to make a realistic run at a Championship.

But keeping Noah and Deng leaves the door open?

We can't compete with the Heat this year IMO no matter what but over the long term adding Melo is a step in the right direction.

Keeping Deng and Noah isn't really a step at all because neither of them are or will ever become elite players in the NBA.

You're not going to catch the Heat overnight...but you need to at least start making moves to catch them a few days later.

 

[JCM]

But keeping Noah and Deng leaves the door open?

We can't compete with the Heat this year IMO no matter what but over the long term adding Melo is a step in the right direction.

Keeping Deng and Noah isn't really a step at all because neither of them are or will ever become elite players in the NBA.

You're not going to catch the Heat overnight...but you need to at least start making moves to catch them a few days later.

agree.

 

[Lefty]

Oh yeah, and I just re-did the linear regressions of ORtg and O-DReb%, but this time with respect to playoff teams' Playoff Success Points. Here's the system:

+4 points for making the playoffs
+3 points for winning the quarter finals
+3 points for winning the semi-finals
+4 points for winning conference finals
+4 points for winning championship
+1 point for each playoff win
-1 point for each playoff loss

Using this system, the teams that advanced in the playoffs are rewarded for winning individual series, and those rewards increase as the teams get whittled down. A team that makes the playoffs and gets swept earns 0 points (because they had no success in the playoffs besides making them), and the NBA Champions will always have a better PSP score than the runners-up, who will always have a better score than the team they beat in the conference finals, etc.

So then, looking at these variables and seeing how they correlate literally with success in the playoffs, we find virtually the exact same values as we did before. Scoring has the strongest positive influence on success in the playoffs (.413 CC, .171 R-Squared). Offensive and Defensive Reb% still showed negligible impacts on playoff success (.097 CC, .009 R-Squared, and .134, .018 respectively).

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

But keeping Noah and Deng leaves the door open?

We can't compete with the Heat this year IMO no matter what but over the long term adding Melo is a step in the right direction.

Keeping Deng and Noah isn't really a step at all because neither of them are or will ever become elite players in the NBA.

You're not going to catch the Heat overnight...but you need to at least start making moves to catch them a few days later.

But what if making that move limits the Bulls' roster flexibility to the point to where they would need to trade/get rid of Rose, Boozer, or Anthony just to get that team to the point where they could contend?

It seems that is exactly what it would do. Sure, you would (maybe) get a nice C and improve your team... but then you are screwed from a financial stand-point, and have little-to-no trade leverage for about 5-7 seasons.

 

[pinkizdead]

listen finding a defensive center that that brings it is way easier to do than to replace melo.

If we do get melo, i think you could pull off a trade that would get you a defensive center in the mold of a perkins etc.

 

[TheStig]

Didn't Rami call in one night?

Afterwords he went and told mommy and daddy how proud he was for being on the radio.