Blackhawks Look To Contend For The Cup Again

[southern_cross_116]

I'm looking for zone percentages. right now I could dig these up

Sharps Faceoff %:

I'm looking for zone percentages. right now I could dig these up

Sharps Faceoff %:
Quote:
Even Strength- 49%
Powerplay- 45%
Shorthanded- 43%
Home Faceoff win %- 51%
Road Faceoff win %- 45%

It should be noted that shorthanded that would be pretty normal for any centre.

Ice -were those career, or last seasons?

 

[icehogfan08]

It should be noted that shorthanded that would be pretty normal for any centre.

Ice -were those career, or last seasons?

just last seasons

 

[southern_cross_116]

Right, copy and thanks for that ....

Ok, in light of the 'over-analyzing crew' -who take one seasons stats and start shrieking about it - I present the case of one, Steve Thomas, late of 2 stints with the BlackHawks, as well as Alan Secord who also had 2 stints with the team. While not directly involved in faceoffs, both of these left wingers had occasion to have some fairly off years after some fairly big years. It should be pointed out that in 1982-83 Mr Secord, then was only the second BlackHawk to ever score more than 50 goals in a season. . . (since then JR also did it -I think, twice). Thomas, while oft injured - his goal scoring pace would vary radically- going from 13 or so goals in season to over 40 the next.

The point being, of course, that the nature of a season for a team as a whole is what puts statistics in their proper context. In this case... screaming about one guy's face off stats as being 'subpar' - doesn't actually indicate a career-trend -or rather, I don't think it can be shown as a career trend. -Especially in light of the fact that as a team the Hawks were much easier to match up against by opposing teams -therefore the situations Sharp's faceoffs were taken have to be seen in that light.

Or rather, there was no actual 3rd line on the team that was much of a threat last season, and in many occasions (particularly when Scott was dressed and played at 4th line left wing -and given about a minute and a half of ice time), there, literally, was not a 4th line being used.

So Sharp would have been taking faceoffs against a different class of player last year -as forced by the opposition and the game situations. And I'm pointing out that the difference between home and road faceoffs as being the difference in which coach gets the last change on the ice.

 

[TheChicagoFan]

The Smith-Sharp-Hossa line was actually really good during the playoffs. Smith will be better and Hossa will be Hossa. Sharp is a good center. That would be a strong second line. Meanwhile, the first line stays strong with Brunette-Toews-Kane and the third line is strong too with Bickell-Bolland-Frolik.

 

[IvyPickin87]

Maybe this season, we'll find a way to beat the Sharks before the last meeting.

They got even better with Havvy & Burns..

Why you stealing Addison's pic?

 

[Everyday I'm Byfuglien]

:lol: I know! I know!

 

[LonghornBob]

When Vancouver sheds Luongo's Special person salary cap number and starts playing Schneider, who's the better goalie in my opinion anyway, they're going to have some play money and the West may be in a little trouble...

 

[GrinderBall41]

I think people are sleeping on this team a little bit. I expect much better production from the core this year after a long offseason. and we should get decent production from this year's stronger pool of veteran role players.

The wild card is weather or not the youngsters, and by that I mean Leddy, Smith, Kruger, and Morin, can step up and be legitimate NHL role-players themselves.

I'm also anxious to see if Brunette can teach Bickell a little bit about how to play the down-low game. With Bickell's size and skill, if he can add that weapon to his game he could be a serviceable power forward.

 

[tbo41fan]

I think people are sleeping on this team a little bit. I expect much better production from the core this year after a long offseason. and we should get decent production from this year's stronger pool of veteran role players.

The wild card is weather or not the youngsters, and by that I mean Leddy, Smith, Kruger, and Morin, can step up and be legitimate NHL role-players themselves.

I'm also anxious to see if Brunette can teach Bickell a little bit about how to play the down-low game. With Bickell's size and skill, if he can add that weapon to his game he could be a serviceable power forward.

Agree...Bickell has the tools to become a good PF

 

[Diehardfan]

When Vancouver sheds Luongo's Special person salary cap number and starts playing Schneider, who's the better goalie in my opinion anyway, they're going to have some play money and the West may be in a little trouble...

Don't look for that anytime soon, Longhorn. He signed this abortion of a contract extension below in 2009. Basically, Vancouver fucked themselves over more than the Hawks did with Campbell. At least Soupy could play...Luongo plays a lot of games like he's concussed. They can probably start thinking of dumping him in 2018 or so. LOL

IMOP, the Canucks are toast.



VANCOUVER, British Columbia -- Goalie Roberto Luongo signed a 12-year contract extension with the Vancouver Canucks that will carry him through the 2021-2022 season.

The deal is worth $64 million, with an average salary cap hit of $5.33 million, ESPN.com's Pierre LeBrun reported. That is less than the $6.75 million salary cap average of his current four-year, $27 million deal that expires at the end of the upcoming season.

The new deal will pay Luongo $10 million in 2010-11 and about $6.7 million from 2012-13 through 2017-18; about $3.3 million in 2018-19; and about $1.6 million in 2019-20 before declining to $1 million for the final two seasons.

"I want to win the Stanley Cup," Luongo said on a conference call. "That's why I play. We had to do something that made sense for both me and the team, and I think that's what we accomplished by doing a deal where the money is a bit more front-loaded."

Luongo's deal includes a no-trade clause.

:rolling:

 

[TheChicagoFan]

Stanley Cup Finals prediction:
Blackhawks vs. Capitals

 

[TheChicagoFan]

Don't look for that anytime soon, Longhorn. He signed this abortion of a contract extension below in 2009. Basically, Vancouver fucked themselves over more than the Hawks did with Campbell. At least Soupy could play...Luongo plays a lot of games like he's concussed. They can probably start thinking of dumping him in 2018 or so. LOL

IMOP, the Canucks are toast.



VANCOUVER, British Columbia -- Goalie Roberto Luongo signed a 12-year contract extension with the Vancouver Canucks that will carry him through the 2021-2022 season.

The deal is worth $64 million, with an average salary cap hit of $5.33 million, ESPN.com's Pierre LeBrun reported. That is less than the $6.75 million salary cap average of his current four-year, $27 million deal that expires at the end of the upcoming season.

The new deal will pay Luongo $10 million in 2010-11 and about $6.7 million from 2012-13 through 2017-18; about $3.3 million in 2018-19; and about $1.6 million in 2019-20 before declining to $1 million for the final two seasons.

"I want to win the Stanley Cup," Luongo said on a conference call. "That's why I play. We had to do something that made sense for both me and the team, and I think that's what we accomplished by doing a deal where the money is a bit more front-loaded."

Luongo's deal includes a no-trade clause.

:rolling:

Vancouver will get to the playoffs and probably continue to be a good regular season team, but I think they pass up the Hawks for longest drought/never getting the cup.

 

[tbo41fan]

with loluongo there, they will never win a cup

 

[Capt. Serious]

I hope Brunette proves me wrong but I don't see how he's an upgrade over Brouwer at age 38.

 

[Diehardfan]

The one team out there that is really scary has to be San Jose. Ok, ok...I know they never win it all but they are really, really due. Over the last decade they've averaged over 100 points a year and have only made the Finals once. That's way too many good teams going belly-up in the playoffs. The law of averages says one of these years they are going to break through....then again the Cubs rewrite the law of averages every year.
:shrug:

 

[TheChicagoFan]

I think the Kings will finish first in the west. They are absolutely stacked.

I think the Hawks will finish either second or fourth.

 

[Capt. Serious]

I think Brunette will go down as one of the more underrated players in the NHL.

But, I personally think he's a downgrade from Brouwer given the fact that he can barely out skate John Scott.

Also, i'm not falling for the love affair with Jamal Mayers either.

If he was so damn 'gritty' then why the Sharks let his old ass walk?

 

[Captain Iago]

I think Brunette will go down as one of the more underrated players in the NHL.

But, I personally think he's a downgrade from Brouwer given the fact that he can barely out skate John Scott.

Also, i'm not falling for the love affair with Jamal Mayers either.

If he was so damn 'gritty' then why the Sharks let his old ass walk?

Brow didn't fit here. He didn't step up when he had a golden opportunity to do so this past season.

They let Mayers walk because they have a shit ton of younger 'gritty' bottom six guys who seem ready to fill in. Mayers can still skate, hit, and won't back down.

 

[DewsSox79]

I hope Brunette proves me wrong but I don't see how he's an upgrade over Brouwer at age 38.

some people here believe that his past career numbers shouldnt change, while ignoring his age/regression. brunette does nothing for me.

 

[GrinderBall41]

Brunette is 38, but he put up 61 points when he was 36. His strengths are playing well down low and a very accurate shot, so if his speed decreases with age who cares? I think its safe to say that playing on a line with 2 of the best playmakers in the league will improve his numbers.