BREAKING: Blackhawks to hold briefing on Jenner & Block investigation

[hawkinmontreal]

It's always been something that was in the back of my mind but always for other franchises....not the ones I follow. But the cold hard facts is that these people don't care about much about anything but making money. I always tried to talk myself into it not being true but the Hawks are no different......neither are the Bears, Bulls, Cubs....it's all about the money and they will do whatever they need to do to protect their interests. They don't care about fans, they don't even care about the people they hire. People's lives be damned....if they can sweep shit under the rug by waving fists full of money, they will do it.

They do it because they know that like everything else, this will pass if the Hawks start winning games again....it will soon be a distant memory.

Unthinkable that it would work that way......but it does.

Great post Diehard, and the feelings you have expressed are certainly ones that are so true in many ways.

 

[MassHavoc]

Danny did praise Bowman, but why, was he trying not to taint the Bowman legacy? The one thing that stinks is Rocky and company even after the 2 million dollar fine and cleaning house look like the good guys in all of this. 11 years and ownership knew nothing of this, what a farce. Pressure was mounting and the Wirtz family needed to save face.

I don't disagree, but I think there is a difference in looking like the good guys and looking like you do the right thing. Rocky was disconnected from the operations. He just wanted to drink and count the money, that's specifically why he hired a pr/marketing guy to run the show. All he wanted to do was have someone make him look good. Danny wasn't really around in anything but token capacity till about a year ago. And their is a reason why he was the one who was center stage here. I bet that's about the time when they got wind the lawsuit was coming. Danny was brought in to weather the storm and keep it moving forward. I don't doubt Rocky had real in depth knowledge this happened at the time. But this is his own fault, he gave the keys to the autopilot to the wrong guy and got burned. 2Mil fine is nothing really over all to the 4th wealthiest team. If they really wanted to do something, they would impose a cap restriction and/or take draft picks.

 

[hawkinmontreal]

I don't disagree, but I think there is a difference in looking like the good guys and looking like you do the right thing. Rocky was disconnected from the operations. He just wanted to drink and count the money, that's specifically why he hired a pr/marketing guy to run the show. All he wanted to do was have someone make him look good. Danny wasn't really around in anything but token capacity till about a year ago. And their is a reason why he was the one who was center stage here. I bet that's about the time when they got wind the lawsuit was coming. Danny was brought in to weather the storm and keep it moving forward. I don't doubt Rocky had real in depth knowledge this happened at the time. But this is his own fault, he gave the keys to the autopilot to the wrong guy and got burned. 2Mil fine is nothing really over all to the 4th wealthiest team. If they really wanted to do something, they would impose a cap restriction and/or take draft picks.

Fining the team 25 million would of been a real eye opener. Draft picks, cap they do t change anything. Get him where it hurts and the only thing guys in his position care about $$$$

 

[DaHawkz24]

TheHockeyGuy on Youtube made a video saying that "everyone knew the alligations were true"
I didn't read the report, but it that a fact?
I get that everyone is saying Q, McD, and Bowman didnt want a distraction, but what's a bigger distraction? Putting a video coach on leave, and firing him as soon as the season ends? Would anyone notice? Would anyone even inquire into why?
Or would a bigger distraction be keeping a creep on the bench and having him party with everyone which you would think every player would avoid Aldrich like the plague.

I think some of the management and maybe Q specifically put the blinders on and didnt want to believe a fringe player until it was undeniable.

They all made horrible decisions and it has tainted the 2010 Cup and how I personally view Q.

Also, the Penn State scandal came out a few years later. I wonder if the response would have changed if they knew what happened there. I'm sure they all were pissing their pants thinking "at least we got rid of our creep... And it was a crime against an adult male and not kids." Idiots.

 

[ruprecht]

Q is in trouble....buh bye JC and as much of that staff as possible.

Aldrich deserves a double tap in the brain pan

 

[DaHawkz24]

Q is in trouble....buh bye JC and as much of that staff as possible.

Aldrich deserves a double tap in the brain pan

If Bowman didnt 'resign' maybe he would re-hire Q after the Panthers are forced to let him go... I want to laugh, but its a sick situation

 

[TL1961]

Still, a kids life was ruined because of the complete stupidity of the Hawks.

Let’s not forget that.

**** Blowman, Q- who looks like a huge piece of shit over all this, Chevy, and the NHL for fining the Hawks pocket change.

They need to trade Kane and Toews out of here even if it’s for pennies on the dollar

I'm sorry. Why do they need to trade Toews and Kane?

 

[LordKOTL]

Danny did praise Bowman, but why, was he trying not to taint the Bowman legacy? The one thing that stinks is Rocky and company even after the 2 million dollar fine and cleaning house look like the good guys in all of this. 11 years and ownership knew nothing of this, what a farce. Pressure was mounting and the Wirtz family needed to save face.

I wonder is there was only so much he could have said legally without inviting a lawsuit. IANAL but usually everything worded to the media is scripted very carefully for that very reason. I agree with your stance, though, but these executive fucks will try to limit their liability.

Q is in trouble....buh bye JC and as much of that staff as possible.

Aldrich deserves a double tap in the brain pan

Agreed...except the double-tap in the brainpan. Too quick. He, and Gary, should spend at least 20 years in pound-me-in-the-ass prison.

 

[MassHavoc]

Fining the team 25 million would of been a real eye opener. Draft picks, cap they do t change anything. Get him where it hurts and the only thing guys in his position care about $$$$

Except he's a multi billionaire and probably would just skip a vacation one year to pay for it. Not mention, sellout streak or not, guess who's actually paying for that fine.

 

[hawkinmontreal]

Except he's a multi billionaire and probably would just skip a vacation one year to pay for it. Not mention, sellout streak or not, guess who's actually paying for that fine.

Not so fast there, the rich hate losing money it doesn’t matter what amount.

 

[MassHavoc]

Not so fast there, the rich hate losing money it doesn’t matter what amount.

The rich like him don't lose money they just temporarily have a displacement issue.

 

[LordKOTL]

Except he's a multi billionaire and probably would just skip a vacation one year to pay for it. Not mention, sellout streak or not, guess who's actually paying for that fine.

Point of parliamentary procedure:

If the 'hawks were fines 25M and a sizable chunk when to sex abuse/assault advocacy centers (as opposed to just 1M), that is not a bad thing.

Even if it's just a setback, it would do some REAL goid.

 

[MassHavoc]

Point of parliamentary procedure:

If the 'hawks were fines 25M and a sizable chunk when to sex abuse/assault advocacy centers (as opposed to just 1M), that is not a bad thing.

Even if it's just a setback, it would do some REAL goid.

No. And I'm not saying it's a bad thing to fine him but money isn't as punitive to people who have more than they can deal with. This is like a parking ticket to a millionaire. And again. At the end of the day he will make it back on the backs of the people who he amassed that wealth.

 

[MassHavoc]

In other news. To answer the other previous question.

Later Tuesday, it was announced that Bowman had stepped down as general manager of the U.S. men's Olympic hockey team, as well.

 

[KBIB]

No. And I'm not saying it's a bad thing to fine him but money isn't as punitive to people who have more than they can deal with. This is like a parking ticket to a millionaire. And again. At the end of the day he will make it back on the backs of the people who he amassed that wealth.

Yeah. Two million dollars is half a days work for Wirtz distribution or the 100 level for one home game. It’s nothing.

But, somebody on Reddit made an interesting find;

Thru this entire report, not once is Wirtz put in a bad light. He comes across more as a victim himself to the underlings beneath him.

If that was the intention of the Hawks doing this, they did a great job, who am I kidding, of course that’s why they did this.

If elder Bowman is still on the payroll I’m sure the plan is to let this play out then put Stan back at the helm, especially if they don’t go out and get an actual NHL guy

 

[Tater]

If elder Bowman is still on the payroll I’m sure the plan is to let this play out then put Stan back at the helm, especially if they don’t go out and get an actual NHL guy

I highly doubt Stan will ever been seen again in a hockey role. Too bad this all didn't come out 5 years ago before he had a chance to botch the team.

 

[KBIB]

I highly doubt Stan will ever been seen again in a hockey role. Too bad this all didn't come out 5 years ago before he had a chance to botch the team.

After seeing Dollar Bill keep Pully around for so long, I don’t put anything past a Wirtz.

Come to think of it… is Pully still alive?

There’s your new GM

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

what’s with organizations from sports to politics try to hide shit like this instead of being ahead of it? We aren’t stupid people and there would be short term pr disaster. But at same time I can respect an organization taking action instead of hiding things hoping it never sees the light of day. And now with Blackhawks they knew what was going on and decided to hide shit. Me personally I would have way more respect if they took action from the start. I’m sure that is true with most other fans as well. So why do we still see this pattern of hiding misconduct? It always ends up worse when they do that.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

I highly doubt Stan will ever been seen again in a hockey role. Too bad this all didn't come out 5 years ago before he had a chance to botch the team.

Perfect time to move on from him was when we were gifted third over all pick and getting close to getting albatross contracts off the books. Now years later he has us saddled again with a shit roster and a mediocre player that should have been a game changer

 

[LordKOTL]

I highly doubt Stan will ever been seen again in a hockey role. Too bad this all didn't come out 5 years ago before he had a chance to botch the team.

If I'm not mistaken, I believge Bettman said something to the effect that those listed in the report for the 'hawks (no word yet on Chevy or Q) are disallowed from working for the NHL until they have an interview with him and it is ascertained exactly what role they will have.

Now I'm not a Bettman fan, but as I've said before I don't trust executives and I feel like that will always do things in self-serving interests. Given the social climate these days especially when it comes to sex abuse, I have a good feeling that it will be YEARS before he gets hired on with some team--maybe forever. If Bettman gets known as the commissioner who let people who knowingly covered up a sex abuse scandal back in the NHL? Yeah, his ass would be battered and fried. He's going to let this die down--no matter what the Wirtzes and Daddy Dearest think.

In fact, I'm guessing this is a perfect time for Scotty to fade away.

After seeing Dollar Bill keep Pully around for so long, I don’t put anything past a Wirtz.

Come to think of it… is Pully still alive?

There’s your new GM

Aww hell no.

what’s with organizations from sports to politics try to hide shit like this instead of being ahead of it? We aren’t stupid people and there would be short term pr disaster. But at same time I can respect an organization taking action instead of hiding things hoping it never sees the light of day. And now with Blackhawks they knew what was going on and decided to hide shit. Me personally I would have way more respect if they took action from the start. I’m sure that is true with most other fans as well. So why do we still see this pattern of hiding misconduct? It always ends up worse when they do that.

My opinion is that they think they are infallible (like the Catholics--except the Catholics aren't but we all know they like to think they are). They think that if they showed that they screwed up that they think people won't resect them because they let the screw up happen. Of course for any reasonable person, that's not the case. a reasonable person knows fuckups happen and bad apples happen, and sometimes how you address the fuckup is more important than the fuckup itself.