Breaking Down Cole Kmet

[dennehy]

The more I watch Kmet the less I worry that he is going to be a Shaheen like bust.

I worry that he is going to be a blocking TE who only catches 25 passes a season and isn't really a threat in the passing game.

I can't remember who it was, I think an anonymous scout, compared him to Drew Sample who the Bengals draft out of nowhere in the second round last year. That's a pretty low floor imo.

That said I think he's a much better prospect than Sample was.

 

[Les Grossman]

What separators the Gronks and Travis Kelce’s is that wiggle where they create space running routes. Big guys that are quick are rare.

 

[WindyCity]

What separators the Gronks and Travis Kelce’s is that wiggle where they create space running routes. Big guys that are quick are rare.

Kelce is a unicorn. He runs routes like a little guy, but he doesn't have the power of guys like Gronk.

Both styles can be effective if used properly. I was watching some Gronk and the Patriots use him brilliantly. He isn't running little option routes or things that require a lot of stop start. They get him moving, get him the ball and let him rumble.

 

[WindyCity]

After the catch is where you see it the most.

Kelce makes a lot of guys miss. Kmet is not going to, he is going to take some guys for a ride, but will not make guys clean miss him.

 

[Nelly]

Maybe the best comparison is Rudolph from the Vikings. Just a big TE who doesn’t have much wiggle to his game but is kinda fast and can catch

Looking at some old scouting reports from Kyle Rudolph, they really are similar. Rudolph was praised for his soft hands and toughness, not being a great blocker but a willing one. Both 6'6" 260, liked be teammates and coaches, great demeanor and such. I wouldn't be upset with another Kyle Rudolph but i'd like a bit more receiving production to go with it.

 

[Les Grossman]

Looking at some old scouting reports from Kyle Rudolph, they really are similar. Rudolph was praised for his soft hands and toughness, not being a great blocker but a willing one. Both 6'6" 260, liked be teammates and coaches, great demeanor and such. I wouldn't be upset with another Kyle Rudolph but i'd like a bit more receiving production to go with it.

Agreed the value just isn’t there for a TE like Rudolph for using an early draft pick imo.

 

[WindyCity]

Agreed the value just isn’t there for a TE like Rudolph for using an early draft pick imo.

Early in his career there was.

In his first 5 years he had 3000 yards and 30 TDs

If you could guarantee me 600 and 6 TDs a season I would give you a 2nd round pick in a heart beat,

 

[dennehy]

In other TE news, Dion Sims retires, having played zero snaps post-Bears. Like an average Phil Emery signing.

 

[Noonthirtyjoe]

We filled a big important hole for the next 10 years and got the best TE in the draft with a 2nd round pick. That is a win. We don't know if he will be great or just good. But we kinda know he won't go bust. It's a safe pick at TE. Not Shaheeney like in Pace out thinking everyone including himself.

 

[Nelly]

Early in his career there was.

In his first 5 years he had 3000 yards and 30 TDs

If you could guarantee me 600 and 6 TDs a season I would give you a 2nd round pick in a heart beat,

Rookie year was 26 rec 249 yds 3 TDs (16 games)
Year 2 was 53 rec 493 yds 9 TDs (16 games)
Year 3 was 30 rec 313 yds 3 TDs (8 games)
Year 4 was 24 rec 231 yds 2 TDs (9 games)
Year 5 was 49 rec 495 yds 5 TDs (16 games)
Year 6 was 83 rec 840 yds 7 TDs (16 games)

If you extrapolate the half-seasons to 16 games, you get an average of:

53 rec, 528 yds, 5.6 TDs

So you're not too far away but even those averages require the inclusion of his best season (6).

 

[Bearly]

Dez Clark was a converted WR

ya , your right. I remember a more deeper catches and not that much zone gap finding but a different game back then.

 

[WindyCity]

Rookie year was 26 rec 249 yds 3 TDs (16 games)
Year 2 was 53 rec 493 yds 9 TDs (16 games)
Year 3 was 30 rec 313 yds 3 TDs (8 games)
Year 4 was 24 rec 231 yds 2 TDs (9 games)
Year 5 was 49 rec 495 yds 5 TDs (16 games)
Year 6 was 83 rec 840 yds 7 TDs (16 games)

If you extrapolate the half-seasons to 16 games, you get an average of:

53 rec, 528 yds, 5.6 TDs

So you're not too far away but even those averages require the inclusion of his best season (6).

Sorry I read the table the wrong way.

His last 5 years were 3000 and 30

 

[WindyCity]

I actually think that Kmet has additional value to the offense in that it should make Jimmy Graham better and more valuable to the offense.

-You do not have to ask Graham to block as much.

-You do not need to as Graham to play more snaps than he is built for at 34.

 

[TexasBearfan]

he'll be a beast in the red zone, imagine 3rd and goal, you have him, arob and jimmy graham, that's tough work for CB's...now we have 2 deep threats, Arob is great at getting separation, ridley separates without being a blazer, definite improvement if we can get them the ball, i'm actually more concerned about running back depth now

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Agreed the value just isn’t there for a TE like Rudolph for using an early draft pick imo.

WTF?

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

I actually think that Kmet has additional value to the offense in that it should make Jimmy Graham better and more valuable to the offense.

-You do not have to ask Graham to block as much.

-You do not need to as Graham to play more snaps than he is built for at 34.

You sound like a guy who just read the same Athletic article I did.

 

[Les Grossman]

WTF?

I just don't see the value in drafting a TE high in the draft like that, especially without some standout production in college. Sue me.

How many 1st round TEs have we seen that are busts lately? It feels like a lot. Meanwhile, productive TEs can be found in the midrounds. It's kind of like drafting RBs to me.

 

[WindyCity]

You sound like a guy who just read the same Athletic article I did.

I was listening to Hoge and Jahns and they made the same argument.

 

[WindyCity]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1256365937781063682

 

[WindyCity]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1256365941039992838