BREAKING: Generational, best qb prospect since Peyton Manning w/ best situation for a #1 pick ever doesn’t make OROY finalist list. DAMN!

[DefNextYear]

Looks like the generational, can't miss WR who would've made Fields a superstar is not there either. What a year!

 

[PrideisBears]

Looks like the generational, can't miss WR who would've made Fields a superstar is not there either. What a year!

Good thing we drafted the other WR who had less production than him

 

[Rise]

Hats off to the finalists, they earned it. I’d still take Caleb #1 in a redraft. Sue me.

 

[zabavka]

Another Payton wasn't either.

The greatest of all time

 

[jsu34]

That's a bold statement.

Here's the biggest area where u and I differ...if Daniels was on the Bears this last year, he would have, in my opinion, won more games than Williams did heading this offense. Even with the coaching, line, everything.

And Williams would have won less games, in my opinion, than Daniels if Caleb was with Washington this last year.

I'd pretty much bet anything on that.

Doesn't mean Daniels is going to be the better QB 3 years from now but it sure as shit means he's the better QB now.

And not by a little.

You are almost 100% correct.

Where you went wrong is with Williams in Washington, with the coach he played for at USC where all of the experts had him as the generational can't miss candidate.

Of course, Daniels would have played better here. However, coaching matters and Williams would have had a much better season in Washington under a coach he was familiar with.

So you are correct about Daniels in Chicago, but slightly too pessimistic on Williams in Washington.

 

[--CyBear--]

Via my source on Twitter

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1882428333264347214

WHY DO VOTERS HATE THE BEARS?

Mostly because they sucked last year?

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

I don’t really care. He doesn’t deserve to win it and every player on that list belongs on it. It’s just extra motivation for Williams and it’s a useless stupid award. I think Jayden Daniels would trade that award for a Super Bowl any day.

Go to your Hitler youth rally yet today?

 

[HeHateMe]

My vote is for BOWERS

 

[ComeAtMeBro]

Neither did Zach Wilson!

But Sam Bradford did... so what is your point?

 

[alswank87]

It may turn out he gets both

He could. I doubt it he gets past this weekend, but he certainly could. I kind of hope he does.

 

[playthrough2001]

That's a bold statement.

Here's the biggest area where u and I differ...if Daniels was on the Bears this last year, he would have, in my opinion, won more games than Williams did heading this offense. Even with the coaching, line, everything.

And Williams would have won less games, in my opinion, than Daniels if Caleb was with Washington this last year.

I'd pretty much bet anything on that.

Doesn't mean Daniels is going to be the better QB 3 years from now but it sure as shit means he's the better QB now.

And not by a little.

That’s a bold statement too.

 

[Toast88]

Remember when all you were doing is making haul jokes?

The Haul was stupid, lol. The Bears would've screwed that up.

 

[Anytime23]

But Sam Bradford did... so what is your point?

You have an example of someone who wasn’t good at first and then become good. I have you an example of someone who wasn’t good and never become good. Fun stuff!

 

[DefNextYear]

Good thing we drafted the other WR who had less production than him

Yea, I imagine he would've done so much better as our number 3, right? Probably really high on the OROY list.

 

[Dstone5553]

You are almost 100% correct.

Where you went wrong is with Williams in Washington, with the coach he played for at USC where all of the experts had him as the generational can't miss candidate.

Of course, Daniels would have played better here. However, coaching matters and Williams would have had a much better season in Washington under a coach he was familiar with.

So you are correct about Daniels in Chicago, but slightly too pessimistic on Williams in Washington.

i think you are misunderstanding what I'm saying.

I'm not saying Williams wouldn't have played better in Washington than he would have in Chicago, I'm sure he would have.

I'm saying that Williams would not have played better in Washington compared to what Daniels did in Washington. That's the comparison.

In other words, Williams would not be anywhere close to fighting for a berth in the SB this weekend if he had played in Washington this year.

 

[Dstone5553]

That’s a bold statement too.

You think it's bold to say Williams wouldn't in a million years have Washington in the NFC Championship game this weekend if he was the QB for the Commanders this year instead of Daniels?

You think Caleb would have done that?

Okay. Sure.

 

[playthrough2001]

You think it's bold to say Williams wouldn't in a million years have Washington in the NFC Championship game this weekend if he was the QB for the Commanders this year instead of Daniels?

You think Caleb would have done that?

Okay. Sure.

It’s hard to say if he would have had exactly the same success. Daniels has rushed the ball 177 times and it’s a huge part of his game. I don’t believe Caleb could do that anywhere near as well as Daniels.

There’s a great chance playing under one of his college coaches, in an offense with structure and protection he would have had similar results.

Caleb is incredibly talented and to suggest otherwise is foolish.

I remember when RGIII was better than Luck and Russell Wilson. That first year, he was.

I know Daniels would have struggled mightily under Waldron and behind that makeshift offensive line. I truly doubt he would have made it through the season.

 

[bufordht]

That's a bold statement.

Here's the biggest area where u and I differ...if Daniels was on the Bears this last year, he would have, in my opinion, won more games than Williams did heading this offense. Even with the coaching, line, everything.

And Williams would have won less games, in my opinion, than Daniels if Caleb was with Washington this last year.

I'd pretty much bet anything on that.

Doesn't mean Daniels is going to be the better QB 3 years from now but it sure as shit means he's the better QB now.

And not by a little.

Whaaaaaaaaatttttt?????

That's kinda hilarious.

 

[Toast88]

That’s a bold statement too.

This is also a bold statement!

 

[Anytime23]

Lots of great discussion and bold statements in this thread, gents. Thank you for your contribution!